The Complexities of Playing With India

like cool i mean am i the first one to read this entire line of words spilled in reams and reams of cricketing facts or did somebody else read all this too? i dont know what the neighbouring side of my country (india) thinks but i think max indians do take indo pak matches as a time to be cheery enough to forget our other more demeaning woes of life(what am i saying), anyways all in the article was fine till i stumbled upon this partcular line
``Modern Indian Test sides tend to have no more than one or two Muslim players at a time, but prior to 1947 the Indian team usually included four Muslim players. ``. DUDE seriously what makes u think that we indians are really bothered about the composition of the so called INDIAN TEAM. i mean ya i ( a sikh) should be actually be bothered as to how many hindu, muslim, sikh or christian players should be there. Its a performance game sir, and we indians are finicky when it comes to performance of our cricket team, we are the kind who would sacrifice our own children for the performance of the team(eg. sunil gavaskar`s son rohan gavaskar). this country is a team and not only the games we play.

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++++Careful there pilgrim you wouldn’t want to get onto a cricket match with me. ;)
(anytime :-), i`m in canada kinda cold here, so would have to be indoors, b.t.w we do have local cricket team and indians and pakistanis both form the backbone and i must say one srilankan and a south-african)

++Anyways, Germany versus England in football, in 1966 the English supporters chanted `two world wars and a world cup`. Argentina versus England in football is always good and fierce.( do not bring the falklands into this, besides english fans are known for their hooliganism and i wonder how many argentinians play in the premeirship?)

Iran vs America back in the late 90`s was a cracker too. This is good popcorn. Great entertainment.(bad example again, a regime for which victory over the us was the ultimate dream, be it war, be it sports, no fun, too much pressure, if u fail come back home and be executed :-))

Violence off the pitch for the sake of sport is a bit off. Pub brawls and stone throwing, I concede is bad.(agree with u on that one)
Lets hold on to sportsman spirit. But apart from that it`s war.(why contradict yourself)
And it should be. Pakistan will win. Long live Pakistan! (who wins or loses only time will tell:-))

cheers

aminashah #98 ``I have heard eating meat is making many women to have Mostooch ( sign of Mard) like men and men get too much hair on ears of Punjabi men like pigs. ``

That is true. In addition, if you eat horse meat, you develop powerful thigh muscles and can run at 50 mph while hitting do-lattis. Eat the heart of a lion, and you will become so brave they will have to hold you back from running into the highway daring trucks to hit you. Fried goat meat will have you saying ``ba-a-a-a`` in between sentences. Try monkey meat, and you will become a world champion trapeze artiste.

And orang-utang meat will make you grow orange colored hair all over your body. Eat donkey meat, and you will grow a tail. You must try all this sometime. People will think you have just returned from a beauty parlor.

About meat eating different people have different attitudes.
Meat eating for woman is not good. I have heard eating meat is making many women to have Mostooch ( sign of Mard) like men and men get too much hair on ears of Punjabi men like pigs.

Let us hope India does not cancell their tour of cricket. As shias are slaughterd only because they are shias by religious fanatics and they have not provoked , means there is no law and order. I f Indians cancell at this time hardly we pPakistanis can blame them to cancell due to law and order . Let us hope they do not as its not just game but it will be financial blow to cricket Board. And this can give chance to other teams to avoid thier defeats by saying they can not tour due to security of players. Hope Indian Primeminister will pressure so show goes on.

ironman #93 Yours is a truly tragic story.

Fortunately you have never travelled in a bus in the frontier province in Pakistan - being a martial race, the pathans fire spit like bullets inside the bus. So you need to dodge the flying spit the way you would take evasive action against incoming bullets (or missiles, given that the spit comes in different sizes). And of course, the taller you are, the harder it gets to avoid getting hit. So, once again, the advantage goes to short people. Hell, if you are 3 foot tall (like hrrehman or jay), you dont need to duck at all!!

NB: The above is a blatant exaggeration of course, based on a real life story relayed by a fellow in college.

# 89, # 86,

I dont know why you guys think Gult/Gulty is perceived to be an insult by Andhraites. This would have started in National institutes where each region get it`s nick name (mostly funny bordering on insulting).

Gult has the same relevance to Andhraities as some other nick names (ghatis, bangus) are percieved by the respective states. No special grievance against Tams there

This is not to say that Gults are not pissed off by Tams. They are, but for different reasons:

1) Appropriating Thyaga Raja and other Carnatic music personalities

2) Taking Chennai away from them

;-)))

- Avkrishna

Dr Sridhar,

``Meat is a good source of protein. One can get good protein from any Soy source (eg Soya Beans). Some Dals (like Bengal Gram) are good in protein. Though a vegetarian, i take egg, a good source of protein. ``

Can you also say something about the animal hormones, or is that a myth too? If you dont know, say so, or say that you dont agree. Dont discard it as a myth generalizing with other putative (sorry Alleph Null) myths. Also, dals and soy etc are ok protein for jobs such as typing posts, but the amount of gas is of mythical proportions, hence not good for competatice atheletics.

Anyways, I am pestering you because I seem to recall that you had some time back talked about how TamBram diet being conducive for peacful and intellectual pusuits..so this is just the flip side. So yours are empirical observations whereas mine are myths? Please explain.

#74 by rsridhar

I was dating an Indian girl at the time.

rsridhar #91 I used to go to kenya on business at one time. it was not uncommon to see school kids participating in long distance races across the city streets.

As a vegetarian, you would not be too pleased with kenyan food - a favorite dish seems to be a pile of almost raw meat slices on a plate with plenty of seasoning. The guests all dip into the same dish. As a visitor in the kenyan boondocks (where they assume everyone thinks meat is the greater invention since sliced bread), i got stuck with having to eat some of the stuff once (i didnt want to insult them by refusing their national dish) and for the next one year couldnt stand the sight of meat. Similarly, outside nairobi there is a restaurant that specializes in feeding goras all kinds of wild animal meat (zebra, alligator, snake, ostrich, you ask for it they got it) - with no vegetables in sight. So maybe all that high protein diet does help them build up leg muscle. (Incidentally, the finest indian restaurant i have ever been to is also in kenya).

tahmed32 #68,

``...I am all for short people...``

Me too. Most of my best friends were shortish. If you had the time I could tell you the travails of being tall in india. I lost count of the number of times I banged my head on various door frames, and the number of cobwebs I cleared! About how I would treasure the one blue suede shoe (size 13) i managed to find...and how, if not for good old hawai chappals, I would have to walk barefoot!

Worst of all...the absolute worst of all...is having your shirt used as a towel.

Picture this...I enter a DTC bus (delhi trans. corp); manage to wedge my head between the two hand rails...which by some cosmic luck just fits my skull. With the crowd in front and back...I am now more or less immobile. Its dead heat of summer and people are sweating buckets. The guy behind me gently lays the side of his head on my back. A gentle sweep of the head and he`s wiped clean...sweat free...and then the other side...!

:(

re:#90 by tahmed32
Thanks for telling me Egg has cholesterol!
I was only trying to say that vegetarianism is of many kinds and not all vegetarians are vegans (who only eat vegetables and nothing else).
Your eg of Kenya is a good one. Kenyans are, however, good at long distance running only. That again may be due to their acclimatisation to the high altitude and training for running for long hours. I saw a program in T.V where they showed how Kenyan school children literally ran to their school with a bagpack, climbing some times steep climbs. The training is there from childhood!
Sridhar

rsridhar #88 You realize that egg comes with cholestrol in the yolk, so one should probably limit cholestrol (unless it is already low, e.g. under 110 or so for LDL cholestrol). Egg omellette without yolk actually tastes quite good, and you can add seasoning to it.

As for myths, the following example is instructive i think: kenyans are world class marathon runners. One reason is environmental (nairobi is 6000 ft or so above sea level, and the rarified air builds up their lung capacity; another is life-style related (they are often herdsmen like the masai, and thus get used to an active lifestyle chasing their herds of cattle around); and another is genetic (like many blacks, they tend to have longer legs relative to torso as compared to whites e.g.).

I am pretty sure i am accurate above, and it just tells us how flimsy any stereotypes are about variations within the human species.

#86 stuka
Gulty is telugu pronounced backwards. Used by tamils to refer to telugus in a pejorative manner. I don`t know why it`s pejorative, but it is.

re: #75 by jang
Thanks for your post.
Subcontinent abounds in myths and perceptions. That muslims were better sportsmen while hindus were better at academics is one. Such differences were carefully fostered by the British to create divisions.
I do not believe that non-vegetarians are better at pace bowling anymore than believing that hindus are better at academic skills. It is all about how one trains.
Meat is a good source of protein. One can get good protein from any Soy source (eg Soya Beans). Some Dals (like Bengal Gram) are good in protein. Though a vegetarian, i take egg, a good source of protein.
Anyway, food is only one part of the problem. If one is genetically endowed (like say some Pathans are) to be a fast bowler, and that person trains well and exercises well to build muscles, he has a good chance of becoming a fast bowler. It is Genes + Enviornment. It is a myth that only meat-eaters can become fast bowlers. I just think that fast bowlers from the subcontinent have traditionally come from the meat-eating areas. That is all. There is no cause and effect here.
Sridhar