The New Land Mafia

since you disagree with the cabinet, do you have any suggestion on who you would have put in the cabinet and who you would have dropped. While doing this exercise, please remember that all cabinet members have to be part of the parliament.

I think that there are some very exciting bright young people in this cabinet. Some of them have energy, ideas and I am confident that they will do a better job then what has been done in the past. Give these guys a chance before passing judgement

has anybody woken up to the bandar bant (cabinet making ) going on in ISlamabad. The corrupt the incompetent and the senile are all in. Wow what a start to SA gov and all under the auspices of Musharraf the liberator- moderator and the saviour

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Well there was an article in the past by Rafay Alam on the issue too. It would be prudent if chowk staff past the article `On Similar Articles`.

I see education as part of national development. So if the Army makes schools in garrisons, basically for the education of the kids of wards and in the process civilians also benefit, I see no wrong in it. Even in small garrisons like Khuzdar, Wadh, Tall, Parachinar, Loralai, Skardu, Gilgit and Sadiqabad etc army runs these schools where majority of the population is civilian. No doubt, these schools are amongst the best and compete in syllabii to City and Beaconhouses. The majority of wards are the kids of rankers and junior officers. The brass still prefers the costly private schools. These schools also produce the best board results and the fees are subsidised.

As regards the Okara Farms, this is a complicated issue and let the courts decide it.

The Jamaat et al can collect crores of rupees to arm unemployed youth and train them to wage Jihad in Kashmir, Afghanistan and Chechnya, but cannot do so much as provide moral support to the farmers of Okara. Can`t blame them, they are out to liberate Muslim lands from the clutches of the Kafirs, those lands under Muslim rule can go to hell.

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Mr Abdul Naeem
I just have one question
``It is time enough for the military bosses to assess the situation and take remedial measures, to arrest the deterioration of an institution, which has garnered extreme reverence from the masses in the past. That pristine reverence has to be restored. It could only be restored if the military takes a thorough re-evaluation of its role, improve both its professional prowess and image. It should eschew practices bring ignominy to it. It should stop acting like a real estate-cum- business conglomeration and revert to its original role of the sentinel of the nation. ``
Do you for a second believe that the military can or will ever give up their priveleges and their ``Divine Right To Rule`` without being forced to?

Urstruly:

I understand. It is like comparing protestor in Delhi versus one in Manipur.

Stuka

``If NGOS can help, why the hell cannot your people (Jamaat etc) also reach out to the farmers.``

You have no idea how bad the situation of political dissent has become in Pakistan. Any attempt by any political entity, lest Jamaat, to interfere in Okara business will be percieved by military as an all out war. The response would be either bullet, life imprisonment, or simply hand over to Gitmo. Faujis find it very convenient now a days to connect any political dissent as treason and terrorism. The matter with NGOs and Hoodbhoy types is different - no one in Pak pays attention to them and they do not have a political constituency.Take for example the case of Senator Javed Hashmi. What did he do? he didn`t challenge military`s authority, as a matter of fact he was a part of military`s political set up. But when he pointed out that there is rebillion brewing in military itself, he was incarcerated for life in prison or charges of sedition and treason. And when there were two consecutive attempts on Mushsraf`s life, faujis couldn`t hide the truth any more; they had to admit that army was involved in those attempts. You have no idea how murderous this mob rule has become. I`ve started missing those days when political dissidents were only flogged in public during zia era.

Urstruly:

I meant onus, not blame.

``when Bush stands on the pulpit and proclaims that he had to start this war because he wanted this war to be fought in their lands (muslim lands) rather than on US soil, then he means us and not you``

Yes. That is today. What about tommorrow? When 700 Club shows ``millions of unsaved souls in India`` they mean us. You have your battle to fight today. We prepare for ours tomorrow.

``if you look at the situation objectively, US has successfully exported its war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. You can sugarcoat this fact as much as you can but truth remains the truth.``

You don`t have to sugarcoat this. I agree.

``but fact remains that the NGOs, Western Human Rights Orgs, and Media are at the forefront of this war. ``

Yes. But they are sophisticated. They do not tell complete lies but they do spin the truth. They are the foot soldiers of the ideological war, the war to capture your way of life.

You quote Amnesty International when you talk to us about Kashmir. Why? Because in your own mind they are the ultimate arbitraters, the neutral judges. Not blaming u alone. We are the same way as well. When we have to blame Pakistan we look to the same people. The ultimate slavery is that of the mind and that is the slavery the leftists and western NGOs hope to foist.

The need of the farmers of Okara (and any other landless farmer) is genuine. You can either cede the ideological space (and struggle) to te firangs or capture it yourself.

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Stuka

I think you are right. But I am not blamming farmers for appreciating help from foreigners (this is inevitable) but I am blaming foreigners (that includes NGOs) for meddling in our affairs for uletrior motives. Besides, there is a difference between you and us. Today, when Bush stands on the pulpit and proclaims that he had to start this war because he wanted this war to be fought in their lands (muslim lands) rather than on US soil, then he means us and not you. So if you look at the situation objectively, US has successfully exported its war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. You can sugarcoat this fact as much as you can but truth remains the truth. It is a totally different discussion why Pakistan is fighting someone else`s war and why can`t it make truce with the resistance just as Spain has made but fact remains that the NGOs, Western Human Rights Orgs, and Media are at the forefront of this war. The ``us`` or ``them`` doctrine is theirs and not ours.

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