Tariq Aqil December 7, 2004
#40 Posted by addicted2u on April 11, 2007 12:11:40 pm
Bhutto is a great leader i wont use past tense coz he is still alive in hearts ov millions of people MARTYRS NEVER DIE. I love him n his personality he is a genius i have read dat book bhutto case`` qanooni phansi ya adalti qatal`` so i know each n everything n i think it was a judicial murder i agree wid u.
#39 Posted by nakhok on December 15, 2004 12:23:32 pm
http://www.dawn.com/2004/12/15/nat1.htm
DAWN, Karachi, Pakistan
15 December 2004 Wednesday 02 Ziqa`ad 1425
MMA convenes APC on religion column issue
By Our Staff Reporter
ISLAMABAD, Dec 14: The Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal has convened an all-party conference on Dec 18 in Islamabad to discuss the issue of omission of information about religion from machine-readable passports.
The MMA has also convened a meeting of its supreme council on Dec 24 to chalk out a plan for its agitation. MMA`s deputy parliamentary leader Hafiz Hussain Ahmed said that the alliance would force the government to re-introduce the column about religion in the passport.
He said that the party had urged Saudi Arabia not to entertain any Pakistani passport without details about religion for Haj or Umrah. Mr Ahmed termed it a delicate issue and said that the omission of religion in passports would only benefit the Qadianis since Islam prohibited non-Muslims from entering the precincts of Haramain Sharifain (Makkah and Madina).
He said the MMA had decided to make the issue of inclusion of religion column in machine-readable passports part of its countrywide agitation campaign and would not sit idle until it was re-entered in the national passport.
He termed the omission of the said column a conspiracy which would be foiled. He alleged that the omission was aimed at infiltrating a large number of Qadiani preachers in the Holy lands. Such a move, he said, would be thwarted by the faithful.
The MMA leader said that they assigned a high priority to the issue as they felt that it affected the faith of the entire Muslim nation. Answering a question about the agenda of MMA`s Dec 24 supreme council meeting, he said: ``We will discuss the pace of the anti-uniform campaign till Dec 19 (after the last public rally in Rawalpindi) and will chalk out a strategy for future.``
DAWN, Karachi, Pakistan
15 December 2004 Wednesday 02 Ziqa`ad 1425
MMA convenes APC on religion column issue
By Our Staff Reporter
ISLAMABAD, Dec 14: The Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal has convened an all-party conference on Dec 18 in Islamabad to discuss the issue of omission of information about religion from machine-readable passports.
The MMA has also convened a meeting of its supreme council on Dec 24 to chalk out a plan for its agitation. MMA`s deputy parliamentary leader Hafiz Hussain Ahmed said that the alliance would force the government to re-introduce the column about religion in the passport.
He said that the party had urged Saudi Arabia not to entertain any Pakistani passport without details about religion for Haj or Umrah. Mr Ahmed termed it a delicate issue and said that the omission of religion in passports would only benefit the Qadianis since Islam prohibited non-Muslims from entering the precincts of Haramain Sharifain (Makkah and Madina).
He said the MMA had decided to make the issue of inclusion of religion column in machine-readable passports part of its countrywide agitation campaign and would not sit idle until it was re-entered in the national passport.
He termed the omission of the said column a conspiracy which would be foiled. He alleged that the omission was aimed at infiltrating a large number of Qadiani preachers in the Holy lands. Such a move, he said, would be thwarted by the faithful.
The MMA leader said that they assigned a high priority to the issue as they felt that it affected the faith of the entire Muslim nation. Answering a question about the agenda of MMA`s Dec 24 supreme council meeting, he said: ``We will discuss the pace of the anti-uniform campaign till Dec 19 (after the last public rally in Rawalpindi) and will chalk out a strategy for future.``
#38 Posted by nakhok on December 14, 2004 6:45:39 pm
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_15-12-2004_pg3_6
The Daily Times, Lahore, Pakistan
Wednesday, December 15, 2004
..... In his book about the 1971 war, Maj-Gen Hakeem Qureshi (retired) says that Pakistan could have been saved if the ruling elite had transferred power to the Awami League, which had won 160 of the 300 seats. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, whose People’s Party had won nearly half as many seats, came up with the absurd proposal that power should be handed over to his party in the western wing and to the Awami League in the eastern wing. Bhutto persuaded Yahya to postpone the convening of the National Assembly. He convinced the army that its budgetary authority and corporate interests would be compromised if Mujib came to power. Over tea on March 23, 1971, the generals took the decision to launch a military operation that would “bring the Awami League to its senses”.
The operation was launched with a mere 45,000 troops two days later. It was designed to “restore the writ of the government” over 75 million Bengalis and to take all prominent Awami Leaguers into custody. Most of them escaped the army’s dragnet. The only one captured and brought to West Pakistan was Mujib. The conflict between the east and the west had now entered its fourth and final dimension.
Within a few months, East Pakistan was in open revolt. Millions fled to India, giving it the perfect excuse to launch military operations in late November into East Pakistan. ....
The Daily Times, Lahore, Pakistan
Wednesday, December 15, 2004
..... In his book about the 1971 war, Maj-Gen Hakeem Qureshi (retired) says that Pakistan could have been saved if the ruling elite had transferred power to the Awami League, which had won 160 of the 300 seats. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, whose People’s Party had won nearly half as many seats, came up with the absurd proposal that power should be handed over to his party in the western wing and to the Awami League in the eastern wing. Bhutto persuaded Yahya to postpone the convening of the National Assembly. He convinced the army that its budgetary authority and corporate interests would be compromised if Mujib came to power. Over tea on March 23, 1971, the generals took the decision to launch a military operation that would “bring the Awami League to its senses”.
The operation was launched with a mere 45,000 troops two days later. It was designed to “restore the writ of the government” over 75 million Bengalis and to take all prominent Awami Leaguers into custody. Most of them escaped the army’s dragnet. The only one captured and brought to West Pakistan was Mujib. The conflict between the east and the west had now entered its fourth and final dimension.
Within a few months, East Pakistan was in open revolt. Millions fled to India, giving it the perfect excuse to launch military operations in late November into East Pakistan. ....
#37 Posted by nakhok on December 14, 2004 6:45:39 pm
ZAB engineered constitutional changes to have the Ahmadiyyas declared Kafirs. It was a natural corollary of the constitutional change that Pakistani passport came to include a religious column - the entry in the column could be ``Muslim`` only if the applicant signed an affidavit denouncing Hazarat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad!
Well, events seem to be turning a full circle. In the post 9/11 era, it has dawned on the Pakistan establishment that the religion column in Pakistani passports is now a liability that outweighs any satisfaction gained from humiliating Ahmadiyyas:
http://www.dawn.com/2004/12/14/top6.htm
DAWN, Karachi, Pakistan
14 December 2004 Tuesday 01 Ziqa`ad 1425
Sherpao rules out religion column in passport
By Syed Irfan Raza
ISLAMABAD, Dec 13: The government has decided not to include the column of religion in the recently introduced machine-readable passports, Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao said on Monday.
Speaking at a press conference here, the minister said the government of Saudi Arabia had not raised any objection in giving visas to pilgrims because of the absence of the religion column in the new passport.
He said many Muslim countries, like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Malaysia, did not have the column of religion in their passports. It may be added that some religious organizations, including Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal, have opposed the deletion of the religion column.
The minister said the National Database Registration Authority (Nadra) had established five counters in the Saudi Embassy in Islamabad and four in the Saudi consulate in Karachi to prevent Qadyanis from obtaining Saudi visas for Haj and umrah.
Mr Sherpao said there was no need to include the column of religion in new passports as information in this regard was available in the data of the Computerized National Identity Cards (CNICs).
He said the entire data of passengers were checked at the airports by feeding their Computerized National Identity Cards numbers in computers and that data revealed their religion.
The minister denied reports that the US forces had conducted any military operation in areas along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border to nab militants. Meanwhile, the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal yesterday criticized the government`s decision not to introduce the column on religion in the new passport.
A spokesman for the alliance said that a meeting would be held this week to discuss the matter.
Well, events seem to be turning a full circle. In the post 9/11 era, it has dawned on the Pakistan establishment that the religion column in Pakistani passports is now a liability that outweighs any satisfaction gained from humiliating Ahmadiyyas:
http://www.dawn.com/2004/12/14/top6.htm
DAWN, Karachi, Pakistan
14 December 2004 Tuesday 01 Ziqa`ad 1425
Sherpao rules out religion column in passport
By Syed Irfan Raza
ISLAMABAD, Dec 13: The government has decided not to include the column of religion in the recently introduced machine-readable passports, Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao said on Monday.
Speaking at a press conference here, the minister said the government of Saudi Arabia had not raised any objection in giving visas to pilgrims because of the absence of the religion column in the new passport.
He said many Muslim countries, like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Malaysia, did not have the column of religion in their passports. It may be added that some religious organizations, including Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal, have opposed the deletion of the religion column.
The minister said the National Database Registration Authority (Nadra) had established five counters in the Saudi Embassy in Islamabad and four in the Saudi consulate in Karachi to prevent Qadyanis from obtaining Saudi visas for Haj and umrah.
Mr Sherpao said there was no need to include the column of religion in new passports as information in this regard was available in the data of the Computerized National Identity Cards (CNICs).
He said the entire data of passengers were checked at the airports by feeding their Computerized National Identity Cards numbers in computers and that data revealed their religion.
The minister denied reports that the US forces had conducted any military operation in areas along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border to nab militants. Meanwhile, the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal yesterday criticized the government`s decision not to introduce the column on religion in the new passport.
A spokesman for the alliance said that a meeting would be held this week to discuss the matter.
#36 Posted by nasah on December 14, 2004 2:55:18 pm
Bhuttu was bad bad bad -- BUT he did not deserve to be hanged.....and not by a tinhorn Army dictator.....that was the Mother of all BADNESS......everything went downhill for Pakistan from then on.....and then comes another tinhorn one.....exiling -- jailing -- kidnapping -- beating -- political opponents
...this stupid one also wanted to hang his own Prime minister Nawaz Sharif.....that`s why Pakistan is considered an unstable immature unreliable banana republic....
...this stupid one also wanted to hang his own Prime minister Nawaz Sharif.....that`s why Pakistan is considered an unstable immature unreliable banana republic....
#35 Posted by irfanhamid on December 14, 2004 1:12:36 pm
If Bhutto was such an enlightened leader he should have respected the elections of 1971 and stepped aside to give the premier minister`s spot to Mujeeb-ur-Rehman. The fact that he didn`t just goes to show that inspite of all his charisma and charm he was just another power hungry politico and nothing more.
#34 Posted by nakhok on December 13, 2004 9:15:22 pm
#30 by zamir1
I am not quite sure of the purpose of the zamir1 posts. Is zamir1 trying to say that ZAB is less culpable if it can be said that the number of people murdered in 1971 numbers in hundreds of thousands instead of millions? Too many people were killed in 1971. It was a genocide and a crime against humanity, even if the number killed were in the hundreds of thousands rather than millions.
zamir1 hasn`t said where this article was published (if it was published at all), nor has he mentioned anything about the author Zunaid Kabir. And understandably so. It couldn`t have added to the crdibility of the article by providing these details. Whatever else this Zunaid Kabir might be, even a casual reading of the article shows that he is no scholar or a professional journalist.
If zamir1 is really interested, he can always find out the truth from available literature. Such literature is available from 1971 itself.
In fact, it was a DAWN correspondent (Anthony Mascarenhas) who gave some of the earliest eye witness accounts to the outside world in the midst of the 1971 genocide. Needless to say, he knew quite well that with General Yahya Khan at the helm, DAWN
wouldn`t dare/care to publish his account. He fled to the safety of England with his family before he allowed his eye witness account to be published in a well known and well respected British newspaper.
If zamir1 bothers to go to the library and research the newspapers during 1971, he`ll realize that the genocide was not only well reported but newspaper accounts tracked the death toll quite well over the 9 months. Here is the toll of the genocide as reported by some newspapers around the world during that infamous period:
The Baltimore Sun (5/14/71) : 0.5 million
The Momento, Caracas (6/13/71) : 0.5 - 1.0
Washington Daily News (6/30/71) : 0.2
World Bank Report (June, 71) : 0.2 (upto June 11, 1971)
Die Zeit, Bonn (7/9/71) : 0.5
New York Times (7/14/71) : 0.20 - 0.25
Wall Street Journal (7/23/71) : 0.2 - 1.0
The Christian Sci. Mon. (7/31/71) : 0.25 - 1.00
Newsweek (8/2/71) : 0.25
Time (9/2/71) : 0.2 - 1.0
Newsweek (3/27/72) : 1.5
National Geographic (Sept. 1972) : 3.0
A lot of research has gone into the 1971 killings since the National Geographic estimate of 3 million in September of 1972. While the exact number might never be known, most researchers place the estimate between 1.5 to 3 million.
An authoratative reference would be Professor Rummel`s seminal book on democide:
Death By Government
By R.J. Rummel
The hardcover costs about $130.00. However, a paperback is also now available at about $30.00.
Professor Rudolf Rummel has researched extensively on democide, in general, and the 1971 killings in particular. In Professor Rummel`s words, ``After a well organized military buildup in East Pakistan the military launched its campaign. No more than 267 days later they had succeeded in killing perhaps 1,500,000 people, created 10,000,000 refugees who had fled to India..``
If zamir1 is unable to land his hands on Professor Rummel`s landmark book, he might look at the following URL:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP8.HTM
It is a chapter from a Rummel book - the chapter is titled, ``Statistics Of Pakistan`s Democide Estimates, Calculations, And Sources``
A lot of books have been published on the topic. If zamir1 is really interested, he needn`t depend on unpublished articles by the likes of Zunaid Kabir (whoever he might be) to find out the truth. zamir1 can easily research available literature on the topic and find out for himself what professional journalists, scholars and researchers have concluded in their publications.
I am not quite sure of the purpose of the zamir1 posts. Is zamir1 trying to say that ZAB is less culpable if it can be said that the number of people murdered in 1971 numbers in hundreds of thousands instead of millions? Too many people were killed in 1971. It was a genocide and a crime against humanity, even if the number killed were in the hundreds of thousands rather than millions.
zamir1 hasn`t said where this article was published (if it was published at all), nor has he mentioned anything about the author Zunaid Kabir. And understandably so. It couldn`t have added to the crdibility of the article by providing these details. Whatever else this Zunaid Kabir might be, even a casual reading of the article shows that he is no scholar or a professional journalist.
If zamir1 is really interested, he can always find out the truth from available literature. Such literature is available from 1971 itself.
In fact, it was a DAWN correspondent (Anthony Mascarenhas) who gave some of the earliest eye witness accounts to the outside world in the midst of the 1971 genocide. Needless to say, he knew quite well that with General Yahya Khan at the helm, DAWN
wouldn`t dare/care to publish his account. He fled to the safety of England with his family before he allowed his eye witness account to be published in a well known and well respected British newspaper.
If zamir1 bothers to go to the library and research the newspapers during 1971, he`ll realize that the genocide was not only well reported but newspaper accounts tracked the death toll quite well over the 9 months. Here is the toll of the genocide as reported by some newspapers around the world during that infamous period:
The Baltimore Sun (5/14/71) : 0.5 million
The Momento, Caracas (6/13/71) : 0.5 - 1.0
Washington Daily News (6/30/71) : 0.2
World Bank Report (June, 71) : 0.2 (upto June 11, 1971)
Die Zeit, Bonn (7/9/71) : 0.5
New York Times (7/14/71) : 0.20 - 0.25
Wall Street Journal (7/23/71) : 0.2 - 1.0
The Christian Sci. Mon. (7/31/71) : 0.25 - 1.00
Newsweek (8/2/71) : 0.25
Time (9/2/71) : 0.2 - 1.0
Newsweek (3/27/72) : 1.5
National Geographic (Sept. 1972) : 3.0
A lot of research has gone into the 1971 killings since the National Geographic estimate of 3 million in September of 1972. While the exact number might never be known, most researchers place the estimate between 1.5 to 3 million.
An authoratative reference would be Professor Rummel`s seminal book on democide:
Death By Government
By R.J. Rummel
The hardcover costs about $130.00. However, a paperback is also now available at about $30.00.
Professor Rudolf Rummel has researched extensively on democide, in general, and the 1971 killings in particular. In Professor Rummel`s words, ``After a well organized military buildup in East Pakistan the military launched its campaign. No more than 267 days later they had succeeded in killing perhaps 1,500,000 people, created 10,000,000 refugees who had fled to India..``
If zamir1 is unable to land his hands on Professor Rummel`s landmark book, he might look at the following URL:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP8.HTM
It is a chapter from a Rummel book - the chapter is titled, ``Statistics Of Pakistan`s Democide Estimates, Calculations, And Sources``
A lot of books have been published on the topic. If zamir1 is really interested, he needn`t depend on unpublished articles by the likes of Zunaid Kabir (whoever he might be) to find out the truth. zamir1 can easily research available literature on the topic and find out for himself what professional journalists, scholars and researchers have concluded in their publications.
#33 Posted by sadna on December 13, 2004 11:40:19 am
The apostatization of Ahmedis was probably Bhutto`s quid pro quo to Arabs for their `pan-Islamic` support. Either you get Saudi/Arab support or Ahmedis can allowed to be Muslims, not both.
#32 Posted by nasah on December 13, 2004 6:18:53 am
``I wonder why the people are afraid of discussing the earthshaking amendment made by Bhutto`s parliament and that too in a secret session. The mere fact that the discussion was kept secret speaks volumes against the credentials of Bhutto as a democrat. Compared to this the amendment about Musharraf`s `Wardy` which was made at least quite transparently and democratically is being protested against so much.``
may be people will be ``afraid of discussing`` Musharraf`s Wardy -- if he is ALSO hanged by the ``Judiciary``.......
may be people will be ``afraid of discussing`` Musharraf`s Wardy -- if he is ALSO hanged by the ``Judiciary``.......
#31 Posted by teshah on December 9, 2004 9:19:33 pm
I wonder why the people are afraid of discussing the earthshaking amenment made by Bhutto`s parliament and that too in a secret session. The mere fact that the discussion was kept secret speaks volumes against the credentials of Bhutto as a democrat. Compared to this the amendment about Musharraf`s `Wardy` which was made at least quite transparently and democratically is being protested against so much. Bhutto was murdered by judiciary of course illegally for the crime which he was accused of could not be proved beyond doubt but the crime which he commited against humanity and its civilazaion making the constitution an `edict`, a `Fatwa`, is too glaring to be forgotten by conspiracy of silence. May God forgive him.
#30 Posted by zamir1 on December 9, 2004 6:00:36 pm
Urstruly
Read it again, it was written by a Bangladeshi, it debunks the theory that 3 Million Bengalis were killed. BTW does any one know how many non-Bengalis were killed by Indian supported Mukti Bahini terrorist thugs.
Read it again, it was written by a Bangladeshi, it debunks the theory that 3 Million Bengalis were killed. BTW does any one know how many non-Bengalis were killed by Indian supported Mukti Bahini terrorist thugs.
#29 Posted by Naqshbandi on December 9, 2004 10:33:17 am
ZAB was neither a saint nor the devil incarnate--he was a human being with flaws but who amongt ordinary mortals is sinless? What he WAS however was a brilliant politician who understood realpolitik and used it to his and his country`s advantage; the only other pakistani leader i can think of who can play the realpolitik game is musharraf--credit where it is due.
I think people should read Wolpert`s biography, Zulfi Bhutto of Pakistan for an overall picture of the man and the legend.
I think people should read Wolpert`s biography, Zulfi Bhutto of Pakistan for an overall picture of the man and the legend.
#28 Posted by HisExcellency on December 9, 2004 10:04:24 am
Let`s put ourselves in the shoes of Ahmad Raza Kasuri for an instant.
Imagine a Prime Minister who enjoys total power in your country. He can appoint and fire the Army chief at will, without even having to consult the GHQ, the President or the Parliament. He can fire Police officials and civil servants at will. The decision can only be challenged in a service tribunal, which is headed by another government servant who depends on the Prime Minister for his job. The press can`t dare cross paths with the Prime Minister. If a leading journalist or even proprieter of a newspaper (e.g. Mir Jamil ur Rehman) annoys the PM, he can be incarcerated on the Prime Minister`s whims. The same Prime Minister controls the judiciary as well. Judges line up to kiss the Prime Minister`s a$$ because they are all ad-hoc appointees. The Prime Minister can easily retire a judge or terminate his ad-hoc contract. Parliament happens to be the only potential challenger to the Prime Minister. But the Prime Minister`s party enjoys 2/3rd majority. Moreover, the Prime Minister considers his party as his fiefdom. He treats dissident partywallahs as enemies. He treats dissent within the party as a personal insult.
Now imagine, that this all-powerful Prime Minister is also an insecure megalomaniac. He is a feudal by nature who openly rebukes you on the floor of parliament simply for expressing your duty ( as an elected MNA ) to express your opinion.
And then a few days later, you are fired upon while you are driving in your car with your family. And your father dies. This is not a dacoity. If somebody wanted to rob Mr. Kasuri, he would have stopped the car and asked for the keys or kidnapped his family members for ransom. No, this firing incident was pure political vendetta.
Mr. Kasuri filed the FIR in 1974. But this FIR remained in cold storage for 3 years until Bhutto was removed from power. If Bhutto had been re-elected, this murder would have gone un-investigated and un-punished for another 5 years. And the chief accused in this murder (Mr. Bhutto) would have ordered more political murders with impunity. While we sympathesize with Bhutto for his 2 year order (1977-79) after 5 years of omnipotence, we should also empathize with Mr. Kasuri for the loss of his father and his 3-year ordeal (1974-77) during which he knocked on the doors of justice, but never got justice.
Imagine a Prime Minister who enjoys total power in your country. He can appoint and fire the Army chief at will, without even having to consult the GHQ, the President or the Parliament. He can fire Police officials and civil servants at will. The decision can only be challenged in a service tribunal, which is headed by another government servant who depends on the Prime Minister for his job. The press can`t dare cross paths with the Prime Minister. If a leading journalist or even proprieter of a newspaper (e.g. Mir Jamil ur Rehman) annoys the PM, he can be incarcerated on the Prime Minister`s whims. The same Prime Minister controls the judiciary as well. Judges line up to kiss the Prime Minister`s a$$ because they are all ad-hoc appointees. The Prime Minister can easily retire a judge or terminate his ad-hoc contract. Parliament happens to be the only potential challenger to the Prime Minister. But the Prime Minister`s party enjoys 2/3rd majority. Moreover, the Prime Minister considers his party as his fiefdom. He treats dissident partywallahs as enemies. He treats dissent within the party as a personal insult.
Now imagine, that this all-powerful Prime Minister is also an insecure megalomaniac. He is a feudal by nature who openly rebukes you on the floor of parliament simply for expressing your duty ( as an elected MNA ) to express your opinion.
And then a few days later, you are fired upon while you are driving in your car with your family. And your father dies. This is not a dacoity. If somebody wanted to rob Mr. Kasuri, he would have stopped the car and asked for the keys or kidnapped his family members for ransom. No, this firing incident was pure political vendetta.
Mr. Kasuri filed the FIR in 1974. But this FIR remained in cold storage for 3 years until Bhutto was removed from power. If Bhutto had been re-elected, this murder would have gone un-investigated and un-punished for another 5 years. And the chief accused in this murder (Mr. Bhutto) would have ordered more political murders with impunity. While we sympathesize with Bhutto for his 2 year order (1977-79) after 5 years of omnipotence, we should also empathize with Mr. Kasuri for the loss of his father and his 3-year ordeal (1974-77) during which he knocked on the doors of justice, but never got justice.
#27 Posted by Urstruly on December 9, 2004 7:46:55 am
Zamir1
I suggest that you appraoch your puppet masters - the Hindus. They have kept an accurate documented record of every murder and rape committed in East Pakistan by Pakistan Army.
#26 Posted by amr85 on December 9, 2004 12:58:41 am
``...in Larkana where it had rained through out the night as if the very heavens were weeping. ``....... why in God`s name would the heavens weep for a person likeZAB who waz willing to make his people eat grass!!!...........Having read a number of articles stating that Bhutto had died before he was hanged or that he had been brutally injured hours before the execution took place (as stated by a number of eminent historains ans certain PPP workers), I find Nazar Bhutto servant `s statement quite revealing!!
#25 Posted by adityapant on December 9, 2004 12:58:41 am
Bro you really need to get out of ``the yanks did it!!!!``...the yanks may be responsible for a lot of misery, past and present...but in Pakistan and in this particular case i would suggest the Corp Commanders (someone help me out here: how do the corp commanders in an army become so powerful, like i have said before dont know much about Pakistan Army but in India the Corp Commanders are not mentioned at all, they are all subordinate to the Army Commanders of their respective area.) form the key to how Zia was able to get away with murder (literally).
Funny part is that one of Delhi`s and (they like to believe) India`s best college, St Stephens claims Zia to be its alumini......dont know whether its true or not but i would not be very proud of that record.
Funny part is that one of Delhi`s and (they like to believe) India`s best college, St Stephens claims Zia to be its alumini......dont know whether its true or not but i would not be very proud of that record.
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