Land grabbing, the American way

This is how Mullahs, Maulanas, and Ayatullahs respond.

Can the Ba Ba Blacksheep from the ``missionary`` position schools or the totaa-mainaa school system muster so much courage and develop an iota of such honour & dignity?

If you do not have self-respect and cannot walk, talk, and eat like a desi Pakistani and instead act ``pragmatic``, ``tolerant``, and ``compromiser`` to retain a naukri & brand-name lifestyle to look like a ``faariner`` (read haraamkaree doer ; a debauch & drunk maadern amreeki ``accent`` valaa) and proud of not knowing URDU .

These anglicised scum of Pakistan can never ever match a mujahid or a taajir. The Ba Ba Blacksheep can only become a ``commissioned`` afeesur or an MBA ghulaam of a corporation--in `english` of course!

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World > Middle East

from the March 14, 2005 edition

Iran rebuffs US over nuclear plans

The US offer was the first major diplomatic shift toward the Islamic republic since Bush cast it as part of the `axis of evil.`

By Scott Peterson | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

TEHRAN, IRAN – Iran`s rejection of new US incentives to urge the Islamic republic to
halt its nuclear ambitions could not have been on more prominent display.


Painted across a banner 20 feet wide and nearly 10 feet tall,
hanging directly under the pulpit during Friday prayers at Tehran
University - and shown live on national television - were the words of
Iran`s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. ``We will definitely not
stop our nuclear activities,`` the banner proclaimed. ``It is our red
line.``

The US offer - to drop objections to Iran`s entry into the World Trade Organization and permit it to purchase spare aircraft parts if it freezes its nuclear program - marks the first significant policy change toward Iran since President Bush labeled it part of an ``axis of evil`` in January 2002. But Iran dismisses the offer as ``insignificant`` and says the price will be much higher to get it to give up nuclear

technology that it legally has a right to pursue under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

``That offer ... is an assault on Iranian pride,`` says Amir Mohebian, political editor of the conservative newspaper, Resalat. ``Some US politicians say: `If we don`t attack you, it`s a favor.```

Instead, Mr. Mohebian says there is room for real dialogue, but at a higher level: ``The US should send the message: `We are not your enemy.` ``

Washington says Iran`s civilian program is a cover to build nuclear weapons, and has ratcheted up its rhetoric in recent months. Tehran denies the charge and says it does not want nuclear weapons, but is creating its own nuclear fuel cycle for atomic energy. Two years of inspections by the UN nuclear watchdog have found a string of violations in a program kept secret for 18 years, but no evidence that Iran has sought to make atomic bombs. Britain, France, and Germany have been in negotiations to get Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions. The US offer aims to join the Europeans in a united front; in exchange, the EU has agree to support taking Iran before the UN Security Council if talks fail.

Bush administration officials, after conducting regime change in Afghanistan and Iraq - military campaigns that have brought US troops to Iran`s borders east and west - have repeatedly made clear that they oppose the clerical leadership in Iran.

The fact that the Bush administration would even consider European requests for incentives - much less opt for them - are ``an enormous change`` for this administration, says Ken Pollack, author of ``The Persian Puzzle: The Conflict between Iran and America.`` Ironically, he says, the diplomatic route is also being favored by some US hawks. ``The people who are arguing for military action [against Iran] are all in favor of taking it to the UN,`` says Mr. Pollack, a Mideast specialist at the Brookings Institution in Washington. ``Their feeling is the UN will punt - the UN will never do anything - and that will provide the pretext for going to war.``

Others see a similar result. ``To me this seems like a transparent strategy: you offer Iran modest incentives that ... the US knows Iran will refuse,`` says Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran analyst for the Brussels-based International Crisis Group, speaking from Washington. ``Then you can take [Iran] to the Security Council with a clear conscience, knowing that you did offer incentives, but Iran wasn`t willing to accept.

``Whether or not it`s exaggerated, there is a concern among mullahs that the US is not going to rest until it`s removed the regime in Tehran,`` he says. ``If that`s their mindset, then [Iran] pursuing this deterrent is paramount.``

Before giving up the crown jewels of a potential nuclear deterrent, experts say Iran expects some kind of guarantee that it will not be attacked.

``The question is: How much of that [Iran rejection] is negotiating in the bazaar, and how much of that is true?`` asks Joseph Cirincione, head of the nonproliferation program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, who returned last week from a nuclear conference in Tehran that included a visit to an Iranian conversion facility at Isfahan.

He says that, while there needs to be give and take on both sides, ``That is exactly what many in the administration don`t want to do - for some, the whole point is to overthrow the regime,`` he says. ``So you really have a problem: The radicals in Tehran and Washington have the ability to torpedo any negotiations, by insisting on the right to enrich uranium on one hand, and insisting on the right to overthrow the government on the other.``

While the ability to enrich uranium and actually having nuclear weapons aren`t the same thing, some in Iran argue that they serve the same purpose.

``Atomic knowledge is modernity, progress; and we are living in an environment where that [enrichment] capability is a deterrent, a power,`` says Nasser Hadian-Jazy, a political scientist at Tehran University with close ties to the government. ``For us it is much easier than to have a bomb.``

He says Iran`s supreme leader views the US offer as ``humiliating.`` Iran expects, instead, sincere efforts to create a regional security bloc and perhaps a nuclear-free zone that destroys Israel`s estimated 200 warheads. The London Sunday Times reported yesterday that Israeli commandos are training for a mission to destroy Iran`s nuclear sites - and that the US would not stand in the way - if diplomacy fails.

``We joined the NPT to enjoy its fruits, and nuclear expertise is one of them,`` says Mr. Hadian-Jazy. ``You can`t just ask Iran to give up this right, and at the same time talk about regime change, sanctions, and military attack. It doesn`t make sense.``

There is ``no chance`` that Iran will dismantle its nuclear program, adds Hadian-Jazy, though there ``can be a number of ways to produce a deal.`` Iran might accept real-time, joint international monitoring of its enrichment process, or agree not to manufacture certain nuclear material. Even limiting the range of missiles could be on the table.

Speaking in Venezuela on Saturday, Iran`s president Mohamad Khatami said Iran was ``willing to work with the world to give more security that Iran is not moving toward construction of nuclear weapons.``

Echoing moderates in Iran, Hadian-Jazy argues that having nuclear weapons would increase Iran`s vulnerability, by destabilizing the region with a new arms race. Any US military strike or severe sanctions would push many more Iranians into the ``must-have the bomb`` camp of the hard-liners, that Hadian-Jazy says is a small minority today.

And there may be other reasons for talks. Cirincione says he was struck by the ``rather small`` scale of the Isfahan facility, indicating to him that Iran has a ``long way to go before they perfect these techniques, and assemble everything ... to enrich uranium for fuel, let alone for bombs.``

The result may be that Iran is ``more willing to give that up than their rhetoric suggests,`` says Cirincione. ``Their sticking point may not be their commitment to enriching uranium, but the national pride that has been invested in this issue

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Reacting to the public protest, the Sind Government has decided not to allow American Consulate to be built at this place.


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Does anybody think that Ba Ba Blacksheep, whose arses & minds are always out of sync, whose Qibla is not Mecca but Farangi-West, who let Farangi franchises make dollars on the sweat & blood of avaam, who always dream in english, who copy ``accents`` and read & write only english yet refuse to believe that they really ARE ignorant and jahils numero uno of Pakiland.
So can the Totaa-mainaa geeduRRship of Mushoo & Shaukee ever ever have the intelligence, courage, and knowledge to talk like a mullah, a maulana, or an Ayatullah?

Now READ and see the style of those who do not want free-thought as a grant.

`` Bharoasaa kr naheeN kr sktay ghulaamoaN kee bseerat pUr
jissay zaibaa kahaiN azaad bnday, hai vohee zaibaa``..ALLAMA Iqbal.

tr:
A slave`s mind just cannot be relied upon, what is considered fair & appropriate (only) by a free mind is of course fair and appropriate.

Until & unless your servant`s son has an EQUAL ( or better) chance of becoming your son`s boss you just cannot tell the US off. The aparthied education system must go. The Brahmins
(westoxicated) class must be dragged in the street and given 80 lashes everyday until they cough-up all they have and seek employment as domestics in gulf.

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TEHRAN,Mar. 12 (MNA)
“Sanctions can not be put on science and no power in the world can prevent scientific progress in Iran,” Dr. Fat’h Nejad said on Saturday.

Nejad told the Mehr News Agency that making use of civilian nuclear technology is Iran’s undeniable right, adding that Iran will only use nuclear science and technology for peaceful purposes, as announced by Iranian officials on numerous occasions.

 

The university lecturer said that the globalization of science and technology is a principle that is universally accepted, and Iran
is legally allowed to have access to nuclear technology in line with
the globalization process and the regulations of the International
Atomic Energy Agency.

 

He went on to say that the U.S. activities in this regard run counter to the process of the globalization of science and technology because the United States is determined to manipulate the globalization process in pursuit of its own interests.

 

Nejad noted, “It is quite clear from the U.S. concerns that Iran has achieved an appropriate level in nuclear science and technology.
Our scientists and our youth have achieved this level of expertise by relying on themselves. In light of officials’ special attention to nuclear science and technology and the brilliance of Iranian youth, one can predict considerable progress in this branch of science.

 

“As
long as there is a need for nuclear energy and technology, we will develop relevant academic courses in universities. We should also make use of nuclear energy for generating electricity, for medical purposes, etc.”  

 

Iran has not bought nuclear technology, so no one can prevent st1:country-region>Iran
from developing it, he observed, adding, “Science is the result of the tireless endeavors of scientists, and sanctions can not be imposed on it. The st1:country-region>United States can not prohibit Iran from conducting scientific research.”

 

In conclusion, he said that the st1:country-region>U.S. aims to prevent Iran from gaining access to nuclear science and technology and, in pursuit of this objective, attempts to hinder Iran in the political arena as well.

 

SA/HG

End

 

MNA

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Out in the Karachi creek, on Kutta Island. It`s said that the city picked up all the pye dogs and marooned them out on this island, where they now roam the dunes and tear each other to pieces. I can`t think of a more suitable place.

A very insightful and incisive article.
In a very lucid and transparent manner the author has explained ``what is happening``

Those interested please do not miss.
Especially for Romair, Urstruly , Mantolives and other caring Muslims.
(please visit i-log for recent muslim-postitive postings)

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Islam and Liberalism

3/13/2005

By Sam Vaknin, Ph.D.

Islam is not merely a religion. It is also - and perhaps, foremost - a state ideology. It is all-pervasive and missionary. It permeates every aspect of social cooperation and culture. It is an organizing principle, a narrative, a philosophy, a value system, and a vade mecum.

In this it resembles Confucianism and, to some extent, Hinduism.

Judaism and its offspring, Christianity - though heavily involved in political affairs throughout the ages - have kept their dignified distance from such carnal matters. These are religions of ``heaven`` as opposed to Islam, a practical, pragmatic, hands-on, ubiquitous, ``earthly`` creed.

Secularreligions - Democratic Liberalism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism, Socialism and other isms - are more akin to Islam than to, let`s say, Buddhism. They are universal, prescriptive, and total. They provide recipes, rules, and norms regarding every aspect of existence - individual, social, cultural, moral, economic, political, military, and philosophical.

At the end of the Cold War, Democratic Liberalism stood triumphant over the fresh graves of its ideological opponents. They have all been eradicated. This precipitated Fukuyama`s
premature diagnosis (the End of History). But one state ideology, one bitter rival, one implacable opponent, one contestant for world domination, one antithesis remained - Islam.
Militant Islam is, therefore, not a cancerous mutation of ``true`` Islam. On the contrary, it is the purest expression of its nature as an imperialistic religion which demands unmitigated obedience from its followers and regards all infidels as both inferior and avowed enemies.

The same can besaid about Democratic Liberalism. Like Islam, it does not hesitate to exercise force, is missionary, colonizing, and regards itself as a monopolist of the ``truth`` and of ``universal values``. Its antagonists are invariably portrayed as depraved, primitive, and below par.

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LOL it will be sight for sore eyes....

The Grand Ruler Messers Ambassador of the United States of All...

pressing the Knees.... of a Patwari..... to get the job Done...

Here is the language of those who do not need permission to be free & think free. These are the Aalims, the mullahs ( good word--use it often), the Maulanas and the Ayatollahs .

Can the Ba Ba Blacksheep from Pakiland ( Like Mush and shukoo) ever ever even ``free-think`` like this. No, the baighairat , Zaani, Sharabee, and Haraamkhore would rather incarcerate the Hero of the Nation--Qadeer Khan, than bring a bad name to their Aquaa and Maula the United Satans.

Until & Unless those trying to behave westernish ( exhibitionists, haramkaarees, totaa-mainaa `accents`, monkey performances) are not exterminated from Muslim societies everywhere, such canine puppies will continue to be borne.

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TEHRAN, Feb 23 (AFP) - Iranian President Mohammad Khatami on Wednesday warned the United States against the ``insanity`` of an attack and said his country would make Washington pay dearly for any strike.

``The possibility of such insanity is small, but our defence forces, our people and the government is completely prepared to make them regret this insanity,`` Khatami told reporters after a weekly cabinet meeting.

``The US definitely intends to hit us anyway, but there are many real barriers in its way,`` he added.

Khatami said Iran was not seeking tensions with the world community but insisted that his country would not give up the right to nuclear
technology.

The United States has accused Iran of seeking nuclear weapons and
hinted at the possible use of military force but President George W.
Bush said Tuesday that the notion of an attack was ``simply ridiculous``.


But he added: ``Having said that, all options are on the table.``

Iran has vehemently denied it is pursuing a nuclear weapons program and
says its nuclear activities are purely to generate fuel to allow it to
export more of its oil and gas reserves.

``If the United States has enough sense, it should know that it cannot afford the cost of such move. But if it could, their costs will be
higher than ours,`` Khatami said.

His comments came after Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi said that Tehran was determined to press ahead with uranium enrichment, which can be a key step towards developing nuclear weapons.

``We are determined to continue enrichment and others cannot stop us,`` he told reporters on his return from a trip to India, calling on the Europeans to take ``serious steps`` in their negotiations with Iran on its nuclear activities.

Britain, France and Germany are leading diplomatic efforts to persuade Iran to permanently abandon its nuclear enrichment program in return for a package of political and economic benefits.

Iran has agreed to a temporary freeze on enrichment during its negotiations with the Europeans.

In Germany on Wednesday, Bush and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder
presented a united front against Iran -- which the US president once famously lumped into an ``axis of evil`` with Saddam Hussein`s Iraq and North Korea.

``It`s vital that the Iranians hear the world speak with one voice that they shouldn`t have a nuclear weapon,`` said Bush, on a European tour aimed at repairing transatlantic ties hurt by the Iraq war.

``We absolutely agree that Iran must say no to any kind of nuclear weapons, full stop,`` Schroeder said.

But Khatami said Iran would continue its ``peaceful`` nuclear activities and criticised the slow pace of the negotiatins with the Europeans.

``Iran is trying to reach understanding with the international community, Europe and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) away from US propaganda,`` he said.

``We definitely do not give up our right to use peaceful nuclear technology.``

Khatami said he believed the Europeans were also willing to solve the issue despite a ``deep difference of opinion`` and accused them of breaching their commitments towards Iran, although he did not elaborate.
 

Copyright Political Gateway and Agence France-Presse,2005© AFP2004

the americans are simply playing by our rules .........

.......... anyone who has owned even ten marlas of land in pakistan knows that the patwari is the most powerful person in the land - even more powerful than musharraf and his goons in khaki ........ there is the land-mafia and then there is everyone else who will steal your land if you don`t squat on it day and night - it is in our blood ..........

............ my father spent the last ten years of his life paying his respects to the patwari every other month and my brother and i will continue the tradition as long as every square inch has not been sold or stolen (and there is not an american within miles !)

...........ferozek had an interesting ilog a couple of days ago on the lahore land-mafia .......... we invented this game - the poor americans are simply playing by our rules .......

kk #14 veeresh alias cant hide his identity either. nor his ignorance (i.e. he seriously thinks that karachi is the only place that process visa applicants). but then, compared to Jay Thakeray (who has gone totally over the edge with hatreds), he is a mere resident of the cuckoo`s nest (as opposed to being a full blown cuckoo like thakeray).

but then, these cuckoos have their uses - the point to the stupidity of our own pakistanis like shandana minhas who will rant on about the US even for actions geared to help pakistanis (as i mentioned in my previous post), while being blissfully unconcerned with the jay thakerays of india who hate our guts.

...even in humor the old man can`t hide his hate...(Kahuta = Three Mile Island or Chernobyl.)

Possible new locations for American Visa-type Consular offices in Pakistan, keeping in mind comfort level of local residents:-

Islamabad = now that there is a bus, relocated to Muzzafarabad.
Lahore = already up and running, Singapore.
Karachi = first cut is a visa for India by steamer, Mumbai
Muzzafarabad & Mirpur = already available in Birmingham.
Multan and Rest of Pak Punjab = dancing through Wagah at Jullundur.
Hyderabad, Sindh = duplicate at Ulhasnagar, Mumbai.
Kahuta = Three Mile Island or Chernobyl.
Gwadar, Quetta and al of Baluchistan = Option between Kabul and Chennai. (One theory has it that the Brahuis are the last northern survivors of a Dravidian-speaking population which perhaps created the Indus Valley civilisation, but it seems more likely that they too arrived as the result of a long tribal migration, at some earlier date from peninsular India.)

That should do it?

great piece shandana.
romair #8 - actually LMKR was set up as a funded project to digitize the geological data at OGDC as a result of a grant/aid. A Landmark Graphics employee was heading up the project. At the end of the project, Landmark Graphics realized the potential of the project and started a company, LMKR in Pakistan. LMKR is the CUSTODIAN OF PAKISTAN`S GEOLOGICAL DATA which means that every single oil company that wants to dig for oil/gas has to work through LMKR. Landmark Graphics was then bought out by Haliburton which in turn meant LMKR Pakistan was/is theirs too! So Ladies and Gentlemen, Haliburton is, idirectly, the sole custodian of Pakistan`s geological data. Howzzat for a deal????

Poor shandana, how beaurifully she has narrated the people power of pakistan, how the parents of the elite schools have coordinated public protest so that the draconian moves of busherraf is thawarted.
Little did she care to mention that all of the people movements in pakistan are simply anti western, they are of symbolic nature to assert the jihadic values of the pak society. It may be more appropriate for shandana to investigate why the parents of the elite schools did not bat an eyelid then the honour killing legislations where reaffirmed by the parliment only a few weeks ago.
This should have been a good study of comparative public reaction. This event only reaffirms the core values of the pak educated elites and their commitment to the vlues created by TNT.

under the lyari bridge. visa seekers get the double high of nihari and visa side by side.

#8 by Romair on March 9, 2005 10:17am PT


Is it really down to 0.1% now? I assume this is a deliberate exageration, to make a point.

``By threatening the interests of KGS, not only have those representing American interests in Pakistan effectively antagonized the 0.1% of the Pakistani population that is still relatively pro-American, their subsequent condescension adds insult to injury.``

Is it really down to 0.1% now? I assume this is a deliberate exageration, to make a point. Though, last I read opposition to Iraq war was 2%.

``They can give Halliburton the contract, if they want.``

Actually Halliburton is already in Pakistan. Perhaps more so than Pakistanis realize. LMKR is perhaps the largest software company and Geographical Information Systems company in Pakistan. It specializes in Geographical surveys, for Pakistan`s oil and gas industry, and software related to it. It was bought out by Halliburton in 2001.............