Religiosity Vs. Piety

snake,

What supports the military-industrial complex?

Those of us who are in America, regardless of our politics, ultimately materially support any and all excursions the American military is tasked with.

Providing support here is not of the `moral` kind. The fact is, being a part of the system makes you involved. Not easy to reconcile, but it`s simply how it is.

Muslims, on the other hand, have no such organization and thus those who fight the war typically are materially supported by only those who ideologically support them.

However this works both ways. If the other, saner, side can get it`s act together, then they win the big prize and the military will be rightly muzzled, despite the lunacy of those who would rather have them stay on the march.

Re: # 2
vertex,

``Americans, even those who are anti-war, are directly supporting the war.``

could you elaborate on this thought please?

Forces of destruction versus the forces of construction...

Are these are the battle lines. Many faithful prefer to select the former in the hope that there is a certain after life where everything will be perfect. This world then is not worthy of any constructive endeavor. Does this ‘certainty’ then perpetuate hatred?

Most folks of all faiths though, prefer the latter working to make this place better than how they found it. It may be a futile attempt, but it’s an attempt nonetheless. And in it, they learn to shun many of their other indoctrinated ‘certainties’.

arthur

How do you come up with this crap?

shiraz mian,

....... i hope you don`t mind if i summarize your essay in a few bullets :

- most muslims are rabidly religious but generally immoral people
- most muslim men are unsure of their sexuality and suffer from a morbid fear of women
- most muslims are full of hate and anger born out of envy

......... is that it? ...........if so then i don`t think too many people would disagree with you - they might quibble about the definitiion of ``most``, so let`s say it is 51%)

Another example of the confused thoughts of a confused ``moderate`` muslim.

Dear A. Shiraz,
What is the point that you are trying to establish? Your article is fraught with broad generalization, sweeping assumptions, and really bad analogies.
How did you arrive at the conclusion that the civilian interrogator was a Christian, perhaps she is an atheist? Why have you failed to cite the sources?
The essay is extremely disjointed with a lack of clear connection between various ideas, even though some of your critque is quite valid, but the failure to put it all together in a cohesive whole is extremely confusing to the reader.
You say,``Despite the millions in charity the deeds of a misguided interrogator make a religious man look like a hero. In spite of the prisoner losing his temper and spitting at a woman, the context renders the offender sympathetic``>>>>>What the heck do you mean by this?????
You say, ``
Despite the fake blood and the fake wires coming out of the hands of hooded prisoners, despite the fact that Privates of the US Army engaged in conduct unbecoming officers Muslims have to recognize that they are not fighting Americans nor Christians but hate and sin.``
What fake wires and what fake blood? From where have you gleaned this secret information that none of the Newspapers in the US have reported it. Muslims have to recognize that they are not fighting..... but hate and sin. Which Muslims, Which Country or are you talking about the Extremist Fundamentalist terrorist group called Al Qaeda, or are you talking about Pakistan.

I would strongly urge you to revise your essay. Develop a clear thesis statement, a proper introduction, elucidate your main points clearly and link them with proper paragraphs, Give a succint conclusion pulling all your points together and do cite sources. I am sure your essay would be greatly improved, and much easier to comprehend for your readers.
When writing, think of your readers and assume that they do not know anything and explain everything very very clearly.

`` It came to a point that the colonists relinquished the colony without a single shot being fired by the natives. ``

Dude, they were leaving anyway.

`Muslims` are not fighting anyone, and for the most part are passive observers. Americans, even those who are anti-war, are directly supporting the war. This is not about hate and sin. It`s not even about removing a dictator.

dear arthur shiraz: no religiosity from my side at all but trust me, you torpedoed a strong topic and a great subject by evaluating on the basis of religion. religions do not outdo eachother in comparison. it`s against the very basis of every religion. they rather instruct their followers to be flexible in learning from eachother. a bad deed of a son does not mean that father was so. and thus a bad deed of a follower does not mean his religion or his religiosity is such.

secondly, all religions reserve space for the sins and bad deeds of its followers. none of them ever wanted to see theri followers as angels. we as human beings should and must understand that. but unfortunately, your essay denied this very fact of understanding.

i wish if you were able to rise above the potential shallowness of the subject that finally caught you and destroyed a very strong theme.

better luck next time.