Finding Kashmir's Pain in London

Re: # 230

but in the end it comes down to us people....
we could`ve hated each other even then
and we can live in peace even now if we really want to .... and i just hope we do

Re: # 226

i still don`t get it...... why are u even bothered to collect these stats.... i know for a fact that indian IT industry is much larger than the pakistani It industry

and..... did i ever say that pakistanis were any better than india in the IT industry ???

the only thing that i said was that call centres do not spell IT..... it`s got a much broader spectrum .... with call centres being somewhere at the bottom

and yes..... i hope kashmiris will find peace soon... Allah-o-Akbar ;)

Re: # 229

Perhaps an undivided India would have been in everybody`s interest. That is not to say there would not have been problems, problems are to be expected under such disparity. However the hatred that the partition gave rise to and sustained may not have occurred for one, and secondly perhaps there would have been greater co-operation within . One can never say.

#228 by swarrier

Thanks for the links. I hadn`t seen these before and these give a complete and I think an unbiased account of what happened.

Jinnah had a leaning towards brinkmanship but he wasn`t good at it. He made several blunders, biggest of which was Pakistan itself. That`s why he died soon after with a broken heart because he had failed at his original aim which he lost by failing at brinkmanship. Prof. Ayesha Jalal has written that he had twice rejected what turned out to be the final version of Pakistan as the `mutilated, moth-eaten Pakistan`.

Jinnah never wanted Pakistan as it eventually turned out to be. In fact, I believe he didn`t want partition at all because he had accepted the cabinet mission plan of May 16 1947 for an undivided India but then the congress backed out. Nehru and Patel were smarter than Jinnah. They both just got rid of the largest opposition Party by kicking them upstairs in the guise of giving them their own country, and then ruled unopposed for decades. These conclusions are of-course debatable.

But the fact remains, the instrument of accession both in case of Junagadh as well as Kashmir was just a piece of paper as your links point out. It was simply `might is right`.

Thus the unresolved Kashmir issue.

Zeemax
In light of your comments on Junagadh , etc, I decided to search the web for some knowledge. I prefer a good book and I shall look for something when I am in India this summer. I have neglected India`s history in the last few years, so I really need to read up on this stuff.
I found a couple of pages that may be of some interest and some pointers to books . You may have seen them before. It`s from Frontline and Indian magazine with a leftist bent. I do not always approve of it since I have seen them twist some facts as good leftists will, .. my wife assures me all journalists and newspapers do it. But then we have to trust somebody ......

Here are the links.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1820/18200780.htm

and part 2
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1821/18210760.htm

I have managed to re-read Summer in Algiers again and will post a bit of the last part on another board . I feel it is a very good paragraph.

re:226 Arjun_m

this Adnan Naseem character`s concluding statement:

``It is not yet too late to plan ahead with an eye to our long term goal of building a modern and enlightened society in Pakistan.``

After 60 yrs of war mongering and military adventurism, this could be accomplished by waving some magic wand.

If Kaami had written an article about IT industry probably this is how he would have concluded:
``We shall not rest until the innocent suffering Muslims of Kashmir are liberated from Indian occupation, Allah-o-akbar``

#223 by kaami on April 15, 2006 10:44am PT

Hello paki...you were saying..

Where does Pakistan stand?

ADNAN NASEEM

The abysmal state of affairs in the education sector is reflected in the stunted growth of the IT industry in Pakistan. According to Pakistan Software Export Board (PSEB), the number of IT professionals in Pakistan during 2004-05 was 75,000. The number of IT graduates produced in Pakistan every year is 5500, out of whom hardly 10 per cent measure up to international quality requirements. By contrast, about 120,000 high quality IT professionals graduate from Indian universities every year, while the number of IT software and services professionals is close to a million. During FY 2004-05 the IT industry in India generated total revenue of $ 28 billion out of which exports were worth $ 17.9 billion. On the other hand, IT enabled services export from Pakistan during 2004-05 was a paltry $ 48.5 million.