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Yeah, your obssesion with Jinnah is YAWN.

Yawn.

#46 by Mantolives

[What have you read about Jinnah to make that assessment. Contrary to the myths that you Indians have so shamelessly woven about Jinnah, all first hand accounts (especially by Hindus who knew him) say that Jinnah was the most cordial and soft spoken person... who was a gracious employer and a good pay master.]

But now that you have resurrected Jinnah by painting him as a reincarnation of Jesus with a halo around his head, why is the world, or even Paki Chowkis not convinced that Jinnah is even half of what you claim? Must be the shameless Indians to blame.

You know what? The dog keeps barking at the elephant, but does the elephant even turn back and look? That`s how it is with you and Gandhi. You have tried every trick in the book to defame Gandhi, but haven`t been able to covert anyone to your viewpoint, except perhaps your wife. Gandhi still remains the tallest leader that the subcontinent and perhaps the world has ever produced, and compared to him, Jinnah is an obscure and puny little provincial leader, whose only claim to fame (or rather notoriety) was that he was instrumental in dividing the subcontinent over the bodies of millions of Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs.

[On the contrary the Time Magazine famously reported that Gandhi was given to a lot of displays of rage and angst in public... in Simla, according to the Time Magazine which was blatantly anti-Jinnah and pro-Gandhi, Gandhi got so upset that he took a photographer`s camera and broke it.]

Don`t you think it was much better than the tactics of blackmail and threats and calls to direct action at the drop of a hat, for which Jinnah was famous?

zakkk, simran, aslam and tahmed,

Thank you so much for your comments... and support.


rsridhar,

1- No I can`t. You will just have to live with it.

2- What have you read about Jinnah to make that assessment. Contrary to the myths that you Indians have so shamelessly woven about Jinnah, all first hand accounts (especially by Hindus who knew him) say that Jinnah was the most cordial and soft spoken person... who was a gracious employer and a good pay master.

On the contrary the Time Magazine famously reported that Gandhi was given to a lot of displays of rage and angst in public... in Simla, according to the Time Magazine which was blatantly anti-Jinnah and pro-Gandhi, Gandhi got so upset that he took a photographer`s camera and broke it.

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Jul. 9, 1945

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World
Work Wanted?
From Where to Where?
``Good and Due Form``
Looking Back




Jul. 9, 1945

On his way out of the Viceregal Lodge, Gandhi was mobbed by uncontrollable crowds. A bearded Sikh photographer pointed a camera at him. The non-violent Gandhi grabbed the camera, tried to smash it, failed. The astonished Sikh resorted to passive resistance, made no effort to recover his camera.

Later Gandhi, who for years has been playing political puss in the corner, startled newsmen by announcing that he would not attend the conference. He explained that he would act as adviser but, since he was not a four-anna-party member, he would not be a delegate. Four annas a year (about 8¢) are the dues paid by rank-&-file Congress party members. Gandhi, the Congress party`s spiritual adviser, resigned from the Congress party in 1934.

nicely written!

YLH: interesting write-up. that man certainly demonstrated good sense in saying what he said, rather than starting a quarrel.

re: the article
I have read better ones in chowk.
Manto,
Can`t u write an article without mentioning Jinnah?
The simple truth is: u got rear ended, mad, chastised in that order by a more decent person. I am glad u learnt some important pearls about decency and human behavior in the process. Keep it up.
Jinnah, as somebody mentioned already, belonged to the elite and would have treated that other guy (who rear ended u) with utter contempt if he were in your place. In that respect, u are actually better than the hero u worship!
Sridhar

yasser

a country like pakistan needs bright educated young men like you, when a country starts losing its best and brightest it goes downhill. one reason why U.S is so successful is because it attracts the best and the brightest. a french-iranian pierre omidyar founder of ebay u.s`s gain, france and iran`s loss.

Yasser, your honesty here is refreshing. Such questions put out their ugly head in my mind too. However, the next poor wo/man who comes along, is my inspiration and solves my problem. I find it impossible to turn my back on poverty. This is where I belong, these are my roots and going to the US or Europe would, to me, be equal to escaping from the harsh reality that is the world. I think I don`t have it in me to turn a blind eye on the destitute and go abroad again, from where I willingly came back, to live a life of material comfort. Besides, I find the chaos and colour of the sub-continent way too attractive and appealing to leave. So, two thumbs up. I wish you all the very best and hope that you can make some difference to the life of the underpriviledged.

However, at the risk of sounding preachy, I`ll say that I hope you get rid of the arrogance evident in, ``Did he, a mere clerk, teach me a lesson- an Amrika returned Pakistani who knows all- a lesson in equality? How dare he?``. The sooner, the better. American imperialists would love that statement. Having lived abroad does not give anyone a `know-all` ticket. A lot of people have that attitude and it`s very annoying to say the least. Infact, this `know-all` is exemplified also in the contempt with which urban people treat their rural counterparts. It`s disgusting. So, do be wary of that.

hindvi...

Thanks for the verse...
I agree with you... in principle on the first second and third score issue. Ideally such a situation should be based on tolerance and acceptance. However such idealistic notions always lead to the bulldosing of the weaker and the fewer.
These distinctions between nationalism and patriotism... are hard to draw... what if humanity was to leave this planet tomorrow on space ships? Would that be the end of the biases ... or perhaps a better word would be ``Asbiat``.

Manto think of the lines below whenever u think of a life of ease in the US

#25 by boogie2000

Boogie if the first two scores are reduced to 0 and the third one kept at 10 it would solve almost all problems that we face today. Religion and Nationalism, both of which are identities neccesarily formed by defining oneself in distinction i.e. opposition to the other are the root causes for all our problems. Even if we are able to distinguish between religion and spirituality on the one hand and nationalism and a natural tenderness for the land and its people on the other we will have made great progress.

Manto

Naheen tera nasheman Qasr-e-Sultani ki gumbat par

Tu Shaheen hai basera kar paharon ki chatano par

Avikrishna,

Surely you don`t think I need to appeal to your sensibilities or express your feelings.
If it is plastic... so be it. Proud to be plastic.


Romair,

Indeed. This is the Tahira Syed chowk.

whats this yaseer - only 35 interacts - even with you mentioning old fag jinna at the end.
I am disappointed your abilities are diminishing!

Speaking of kalima chowk: is that the same chowk that was known as Tahira Syed chowk during my days? The story went that the construction on the chowk (shown in the above picture) looked like Tahira Syed`s hand; when she sings she twirls her hand around a lot. And that Nawaz Sharif, who was then the Chief Minister of Punjab had constructed it for her, since she was reputed to be his girlfriend, after her divorce from her husband..............

The intent of this article is in the right spirit, but the depth and breadth of emotions are too shallow.

A tangentially related but unnecessary comparisions towards the end only serve as a distraction and make the emotions more plastic,

Thanks,