Zero Tolerance -- Dealing with Naxalites

#20 by kaalchakra ..

i think what you say is just not plainspeak. ;-)

Re: # 21

Though I must hasten to add, as somebody once said, with respect to Afghanistan, Colombia etc, `` Opium is the religion of the masses``. -)

Re: # 20

Yes Kaal
And there can be no greater unifier of people, with the smallest act to grind, than a religious bigot . After all, with faith being the all pervading thing that it is , rational reasoning will always take a back seat, initially (I hope).

As somebody else once said, `` Religion is the opium of the masses.``

Simran

This is not at all in reference to Punjab but a simple comment with which you might agree. All old-time religious bigotry thrives on systematic, conscious, and deliberate alienation and separation of the pure and privileged self from the impure and ungodly others.

So characteristic is this behavior that religious bigotry can simply be defined as conscious alienation of the (divinely) privileged self from others.

Human rights activists and people working for economic welfare of fellow human beings should consider being extremely watchful about their own misuse as promoters and defenders of religious bigotry.

You give religious bigots an inch. Soon they will not be satisfied with a mile.

Stuka, I think that no movement for self determination can last very long if there isn`t any dissatisfaction with the State. And dissatisfaction isn`t only about funds. Alienation from the State can take on many forms.

haider5

Mate, equating propheteering to naxalism?

Rajkumar was not a Prophet!

BANGALORE, April 13: Police opened fire in India’s technology hub on Thursday, killing four people as tens of thousands of fans mourning the death of a film icon torched vehicles and attacked company offices.

Police said that an officer was earlier beaten to death as film actor Rajkumar’s cortege made its way through the streets of Bangalore.

One man died of bullet wounds after police opened fire in self-defence when mobs attacked their bus. Three people were killed after the funeral as police fired at a mob enraged at not being able to attend the service.

The body of the 77-year-old actor, who died on Wednesday after a heart attack, was buried with state honours at a film studio owned by his family on the city’s outskirts.

Violent mourners clashed with police, set vehicles on fire and damaged shops along the route of the procession.

Hundreds of fans threw flower petals as the body was lowered into the grave.

Rajkumar’s son Raghvendra implored fans to maintain calm but his words had little effect.

Fans kept away from the grave were seen throwing stones at passing vehicles and police.

Officers had earlier retaliated with tear gas and baton-charges as thousands converged on a stadium in Bangalore, home to major Indian and international technology firms, where the actor’s body had been put on view in a transparent coffin.

The state government of Karnataka announced a public holiday to mark the actor’s passing.

Schools, shops, cinema halls were shut for the day and few buses were running.

Leading IT companies — including Wipro, iGATE and Infosys, India’s second-largest software company, along with multinationals Microsoft, Dell Inc and IBM — said they would stay closed on Thursday.

“Most companies are forced to close. Nobody wants to take a chance,” an official at a multinational firm told Reuters on the condition that the person and company not be named.

“Offices that are open get stoned. This is bad for Bangalore’s international image.”

Offices belonging to AXA, a leading French insurance firm, and Microsoft were pelted with stones, company officials told Reuters.

Police had to cane unruly fans surging to have a glimpse of their icon as they attempted to restore order at the stadium while thousands of fans, including women and children, stood in long queues to pay homage.

At least 10 police officers were injured, and 50 to 70 vehicles were vandalised, police said.

Some were bemused by the violence.

“It is a natural death. Why are the fans getting violent? It is out of fear people are closing shops,” said a street vendor near one of the city’s main bus terminals.

Others were emotional.

“Our hero is dead. Annavaru (elder brother) was our inspiration,” said Hanumanthaiah, a fan paying his last respects at the stadium.

Drivers pasted pictures of the actor to their windows in the hope of avoiding the mob’s attention.

Cable television companies blocked entertainment channels to mark a day of mourning.

Karnataka’s chief minister, H. D. Kumaraswamy, appealed for calm. “By resorting to violence, you will only be showing disrespect to the great actor,” he said.

Rajkumar starred in more than 200 Kannada-language films over five decades.—Reuters

``Most calls for self-determination arise from a failure of the state. Instead of addressing such failures, the govt goes onto impose more draconian laws on an already aggrieved people and indulges in gross human rights violations. And people like you make things worse by saying things like that`s a small price to pay.
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Oh please. Most calls for self determination rise from ethnic, linguistic or religious chauvinism. How did India fail Punjab or Kashmir any more than it failed any other state within India? In fact, Kashmir recieves more federal funding per capita than any other state. While Punjab does not get or need that kind of federal funding, it was the recipient of federal largesse through the canal system as well. This is ofcourse not counting the massive loans that were waived by the federal government after the insurgency was crushed. After all, let`s go back to the time before 1984, what massive failure of the state was responsible for the Akali agitation, the Anadpur Sahib resolution or the situation with Bhidranwale sitting on his charpai and issuing hit lists? Why was DIG Atwal killed on the steps of the Golden Temple? You talk about the HR abuses by Gill but keep silent on the other side.

simran:

i do concur with you that the indian gov., since independence, hasn`t failed to implement policies which could alleviate the situayion in the hinterlands. but where else has it succedded (apart from a few things).

even mumbai which gives a lions share to the exchequer is neglected.

corruption, failure of administration, neglect has contributed to the miserable situation of those areas. but isn`t it prevalent even every indian city/town.

indian gov. was not right but nor are these ultra-communists. do you think their dream of making india like mao`s china is the answer for the problem??? that too through senseless violence?

but what are the naxalbaris going to achieve from violence????

their violence has to be dealt first that too with even greater violence against them so that other people will think twice before taking up arms agianst the establishment.

Indian007, Nope. You`re rejected.

Gujju, knock it off.

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This may be closer home: Dr. Rajkumar`s passing away was a shocker. Hope things settle down soon.

Simi , (may I call you Simi ?)....yup , I feel your pain. Khalistan Zindabad. Free Kashmir. Bloody fascist Indians and their draconian state. Now can we make love ?

Indian007, Most calls for self-determination arise from a failure of the state. Instead of addressing such failures, the govt goes onto impose more draconian laws on an already aggrieved people and indulges in gross human rights violations. And people like you make things worse by saying things like that`s a small price to pay.

Simran : ``Apprently K.P.S Gill has been appointed advisor to help solve the naxal issue in Chattisgarh. He, who was responsible for some of the most flagrant human rights abuses in Punjab.``

Thats small price to pay considering that if not for Mr.Gill , we would be having an independet Khalistan nation by now. But then thats probably what you wanted.

nasah ji, simran

That`s the problem with you two. Just when one was ready to dismiss another one of Mr. Gatade`s endless and innumerable rants, you gave us something to think about. :(

Nasah, I couldn`t agree with you more.