Murad A Baig April 29, 2006
#6 Posted by aanandk on June 5, 2008 12:38:32 am
followed by creation of a new question/answer ... that is the cosmic dance within all of us. Then everything seems to make sense.
#5 Posted by Inquirer on May 2, 2006 5:00:54 am
Re: # 4, nasah:
Thanks, you gave a comment that I have been looking for getting from my wife for - hey, just too many years!!
But you are a man of few words. Your last comment was too brief for me to get on the same wavelength. I hope you would provide a more explanatory discussion and also, some references.
Thanks, you gave a comment that I have been looking for getting from my wife for - hey, just too many years!!
But you are a man of few words. Your last comment was too brief for me to get on the same wavelength. I hope you would provide a more explanatory discussion and also, some references.
#4 Posted by nasah on May 1, 2006 4:50:52 pm
Inquirer you`r fun to talk -- did you hear the leatest -- chaos + more chaos = symmetry -- this is a revolutionary experiment some Brits did -- it`s astounding -- means the inebvitable entrophy to inevitale chaos but if one adds more chaos -- it will lead to just the opposite -- reorganization......
may explain creation afterall -- without a creator...
may explain creation afterall -- without a creator...
#3 Posted by Inquirer on May 1, 2006 12:41:17 pm
Re: # 2, nasah:
Thanks for convergence. I would not want to use the meaningless words like maya. Every living being is randomly created set of molecules surrounded by the inorganic universe which was not created; it resulted from dynamic happenstance of energy and mass distributions.
Some of the organic molecules can locomote due to energy distributions within their bodies. They can do that only as long as that happenstance molecule callled DNA operates. Some of these molecules can make ``use`` of other molecules by eating them and doing actions they do not understand but they lead to another similar set of molecules.
In our previous history, the cunning ones tried to put themselves in special position with respect to others and sometimes they succeeded. This led to self-perpetuating mythical illusions that were pretty handy in preserving the controls of some of us molecules for the purposes of the clever ones.
All this is true but, boy, when the molecules reduce their entropy (disintegration) the illusion is perfect that they would never become atoms again!! And that is life!!! It is our duty to use the moments that we have!!! Whatever, is the definition of ``use.``
Thanks for convergence. I would not want to use the meaningless words like maya. Every living being is randomly created set of molecules surrounded by the inorganic universe which was not created; it resulted from dynamic happenstance of energy and mass distributions.
Some of the organic molecules can locomote due to energy distributions within their bodies. They can do that only as long as that happenstance molecule callled DNA operates. Some of these molecules can make ``use`` of other molecules by eating them and doing actions they do not understand but they lead to another similar set of molecules.
In our previous history, the cunning ones tried to put themselves in special position with respect to others and sometimes they succeeded. This led to self-perpetuating mythical illusions that were pretty handy in preserving the controls of some of us molecules for the purposes of the clever ones.
All this is true but, boy, when the molecules reduce their entropy (disintegration) the illusion is perfect that they would never become atoms again!! And that is life!!! It is our duty to use the moments that we have!!! Whatever, is the definition of ``use.``
#2 Posted by nasah on May 1, 2006 10:29:02 am
hey Inquirer your analysis of Murad`s sahib spirited world of spirits is right on the target --
thoughts and hallucinations are no more than momentary neurochemical imbalances -- there is no Creator only a creation of the creative minds of the created --
yes human life is transitory -- is all Maya -- there is no living after-life -- the after-life is the `life` of `dead` atoms and molecules -- instead from dust to dust -- it is from molecules to molecules -- except when bound in a whirlwind of an energy gradient -- called life.
where all of us humans are going -- exactly where all the insects fleas and their hosts dog and cats are going -- to graveyard of dead molecules and radicals -- before they will get reincarnated by getting caught into another whirlwind of living energy called life.....
btw -- Murad sahib there is still a smaller world than the world of electron and protons -- it`s the world of quarks -- the smallest of the smallest world partly discovered by your great scientist -- one of the greatest minds in particle physics -- Abdus Salam....
thoughts and hallucinations are no more than momentary neurochemical imbalances -- there is no Creator only a creation of the creative minds of the created --
yes human life is transitory -- is all Maya -- there is no living after-life -- the after-life is the `life` of `dead` atoms and molecules -- instead from dust to dust -- it is from molecules to molecules -- except when bound in a whirlwind of an energy gradient -- called life.
where all of us humans are going -- exactly where all the insects fleas and their hosts dog and cats are going -- to graveyard of dead molecules and radicals -- before they will get reincarnated by getting caught into another whirlwind of living energy called life.....
btw -- Murad sahib there is still a smaller world than the world of electron and protons -- it`s the world of quarks -- the smallest of the smallest world partly discovered by your great scientist -- one of the greatest minds in particle physics -- Abdus Salam....
#1 Posted by Inquirer on May 1, 2006 5:47:28 am
Murad:
``Man does not yet know if this vast world we live on is not just a particle in a still greater cosmos nor whether there will someday be the discovery of even smaller worlds than the tiniest electron that science has, so far, been able to identify.``
****Man fully knows that the earth is just random particle.****
``The great `Shunya’, or great emptiness, that pervades and surrounds everything.``
****There is no vacuum. Virtual particles fill every nook and cranny of ``space.``****
``Who or what is the subject that directs these objects on their microscopic and macrocosmic cycles of movements and change? ``
****This is just a pipe dream.****
``All our transitory possessions, objects, passions, ideals and even our mortal bodies are destined to be deserted by this transitory spirit as it moves in its undeclared way towards some unimagined destination. ``
****You can concoct this thought if you want.****
``A spirit that comes to the world alone and leaves it alone but is never alone as long as it regards itself as a part of some greater subject. ``
****Figment of imagination.****
``The cosmic creator, without name or form may be a great stream of cosmic energy in which every living soul is but a tiny droplet.``
****Another figment of imagination.****
``If people can learn how to find the glory of this spirit within themselves they will be freed from the bondage of sacrifices, penances and rituals. It will be the triumph of inner spirituality and the end of raucous religiosity. ``
****If you want to feel vain-glorious imagine yourself to be anything. Everyone is just a set of molecules that got assembled randomly and will diintegrate randomly.****
MUCH ADO ABOOUT NOTHING.
``Man does not yet know if this vast world we live on is not just a particle in a still greater cosmos nor whether there will someday be the discovery of even smaller worlds than the tiniest electron that science has, so far, been able to identify.``
****Man fully knows that the earth is just random particle.****
``The great `Shunya’, or great emptiness, that pervades and surrounds everything.``
****There is no vacuum. Virtual particles fill every nook and cranny of ``space.``****
``Who or what is the subject that directs these objects on their microscopic and macrocosmic cycles of movements and change? ``
****This is just a pipe dream.****
``All our transitory possessions, objects, passions, ideals and even our mortal bodies are destined to be deserted by this transitory spirit as it moves in its undeclared way towards some unimagined destination. ``
****You can concoct this thought if you want.****
``A spirit that comes to the world alone and leaves it alone but is never alone as long as it regards itself as a part of some greater subject. ``
****Figment of imagination.****
``The cosmic creator, without name or form may be a great stream of cosmic energy in which every living soul is but a tiny droplet.``
****Another figment of imagination.****
``If people can learn how to find the glory of this spirit within themselves they will be freed from the bondage of sacrifices, penances and rituals. It will be the triumph of inner spirituality and the end of raucous religiosity. ``
****If you want to feel vain-glorious imagine yourself to be anything. Everyone is just a set of molecules that got assembled randomly and will diintegrate randomly.****
MUCH ADO ABOOUT NOTHING.
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