Abrar Akbar May 20, 2007
#75 Posted by okhla99 on May 25, 2007 9:16:27 pm
Re: # 74
<<< YOU won`t understand such matters >>>
BJ, Don`t insult Kaal. He can get to the very core of complicated concepts where you (&me) would be stuck at the periphery.
Or is it that you have realised the incomprehensibility of your own nosensical drivel??
The visual of the eggs exploding in your face!! One by one! Happy omeletting!!!!
HA HA HA!!! LOL!!
<<< YOU won`t understand such matters >>>
BJ, Don`t insult Kaal. He can get to the very core of complicated concepts where you (&me) would be stuck at the periphery.
Or is it that you have realised the incomprehensibility of your own nosensical drivel??
The visual of the eggs exploding in your face!! One by one! Happy omeletting!!!!
HA HA HA!!! LOL!!
#74 Posted by bjkumar on May 25, 2007 11:58:43 am
#73 Kaal
One needs to break eggs to make omlettes.
No breaking - no egging - no omlettes!
Sometimes, one needs to break perfectly GOOD eggs, even.
But let it go.
YOU won`t understand such matters.
Such matters, my dear Kaal, only concern lions of yore.
You - sir, are a mere vegetarian!
Sowwyyyy! :)
#73 Posted by KaalChakra on May 25, 2007 6:37:32 am
beej
yeh kya drama hai? You spend one half of your time here insulting other people. The other, saying sowwwwyyyyyy! :)
yeh kya drama hai? You spend one half of your time here insulting other people. The other, saying sowwwwyyyyyy! :)
#72 Posted by bjkumar on May 24, 2007 7:22:23 pm
#71 Okhla
Kaha to babaaa, sowwwwyyyyyy!
Now say something on topic, too!
#71 Posted by okhla99 on May 24, 2007 1:29:05 am
Re: # 68
These are your apologies ?????
They don`t appear to be apologies at all....
In fact they appear to be poorly attempted insults.... which have misfired badly.
Now run back to Masadi..... like the bad boy you are.... he can use a ghilman....
These are your apologies ?????
They don`t appear to be apologies at all....
In fact they appear to be poorly attempted insults.... which have misfired badly.
Now run back to Masadi..... like the bad boy you are.... he can use a ghilman....
#70 Posted by zeemax on May 24, 2007 1:19:55 am
#58 by subedar
Sharifuddin`s master stroke:
Article 224. Time of election and by-election:
(1) A general election to the National Assembly or a Provincial Assembly shall be held within a period of sixty days immediately *[following] the day on which the term of the Assembly is due to expire ...
(*Substituted for the word ``preceding`` by the Legal Framework Order, 2002 (Chief Executive`s Order No. 24), Art 3(1), sched. item 22(a)(i)
This is how Musharraf can now be elected by an outgoing unpopular assembly! With just substitution of a single word ... :)
Sharifuddin`s master stroke:
Article 224. Time of election and by-election:
(1) A general election to the National Assembly or a Provincial Assembly shall be held within a period of sixty days immediately *[following] the day on which the term of the Assembly is due to expire ...
(*Substituted for the word ``preceding`` by the Legal Framework Order, 2002 (Chief Executive`s Order No. 24), Art 3(1), sched. item 22(a)(i)
This is how Musharraf can now be elected by an outgoing unpopular assembly! With just substitution of a single word ... :)
#69 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2007 11:56:38 pm
Re #62 Aslam:
Shifting blame from the real cause to internal causes is an easy escape for the criminals among the US elite who ensured that our institutions never served the people. The things you mention do not operate in a vacuum, whenever those solutions are tried, whenever any of the poor nation states have tried to break away from serving the Western interests, they have been punished and brought back in line. The US within it has a similarly stratified setup among the colored and the white races and functional illiteracy (lack of education that is required for day to day living) in quite high. Population is a function of economic and distributional justice, when the only opportunity for the poor to make a living is manual labor in a global division of labor that values our part only for cheap labor, then you will see a high population. If resources are diverted from serving Western interests, if there is no exit of capital towards West, that has drained our blood, if contracts and hardware purchase from the West ends and money is spent on healthcare and education and food for all then you can be sure that they wont just stand by and let that happen. The institutions we inherited were colonial institutions designed to serve the colonial powers, run by elite that were products of those institutions, there was no change after the so called ``independence`` control merely became subtle.
You can try any ``education`` solution but if your economy is set up to punish it and encourage manual labor or cheap clerical labor for the Western corporations, and be a raw material manufacturer, then any attempts at ``education`` will fail, schools will fail and money will be squandered, look at the state of public education in poor areas of the US, they graduate people who are unable to read a line- education itself does not operate in a vaccum, it needs to produce objective results for people to psychologically adopt it, if it brings them failure in the economy why should they sacrifice for it? You don`t seem to understand this just like the dimwit economists. What the so called ``utilitarian`` development economists fail to realize is that social institutions do not operate in a vacuum, they interact with each other and operate within a global setup. Opinions and perceptions are manufactured by groups that hold others subordinate. Nothing not even 1% can change if you don`t recognize this, it is very easy for the Core countries to bring the periphery back in line if it is isolated and thinks that its problems are due to internal peculiarities.
Shifting blame from the real cause to internal causes is an easy escape for the criminals among the US elite who ensured that our institutions never served the people. The things you mention do not operate in a vacuum, whenever those solutions are tried, whenever any of the poor nation states have tried to break away from serving the Western interests, they have been punished and brought back in line. The US within it has a similarly stratified setup among the colored and the white races and functional illiteracy (lack of education that is required for day to day living) in quite high. Population is a function of economic and distributional justice, when the only opportunity for the poor to make a living is manual labor in a global division of labor that values our part only for cheap labor, then you will see a high population. If resources are diverted from serving Western interests, if there is no exit of capital towards West, that has drained our blood, if contracts and hardware purchase from the West ends and money is spent on healthcare and education and food for all then you can be sure that they wont just stand by and let that happen. The institutions we inherited were colonial institutions designed to serve the colonial powers, run by elite that were products of those institutions, there was no change after the so called ``independence`` control merely became subtle.
You can try any ``education`` solution but if your economy is set up to punish it and encourage manual labor or cheap clerical labor for the Western corporations, and be a raw material manufacturer, then any attempts at ``education`` will fail, schools will fail and money will be squandered, look at the state of public education in poor areas of the US, they graduate people who are unable to read a line- education itself does not operate in a vaccum, it needs to produce objective results for people to psychologically adopt it, if it brings them failure in the economy why should they sacrifice for it? You don`t seem to understand this just like the dimwit economists. What the so called ``utilitarian`` development economists fail to realize is that social institutions do not operate in a vacuum, they interact with each other and operate within a global setup. Opinions and perceptions are manufactured by groups that hold others subordinate. Nothing not even 1% can change if you don`t recognize this, it is very easy for the Core countries to bring the periphery back in line if it is isolated and thinks that its problems are due to internal peculiarities.
#68 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2007 8:42:53 pm
Is that sorry enough for you, bud?
You want any more ``sorry``s?
Like they say....
Love means never having to say sorry...
Our love is so different from the rest of the world!
#67 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2007 8:38:34 pm
#66 (add-on)
And while I am in my apology mood...
Sorry for calling you the candle bright!
Sorry for calling you the delight of khaki night!
Sorry for calling you the khaki knight light!
Sorry for calling you their sore-eye sight!
Sorry for calling you hermaphrodite!
.....and so forth!
#66 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2007 8:27:32 pm
#65 Kambakhat Okhla
Saala tu aisey nahin manega!
You REALLY want it - don`t you!
Sorry!
Sorry for calling you an idiot!
Sorry for calling you a kutta!
Sorry for calling you a harrammee!
Sorry for asking you to go screw yourself!
Are you happy now?!!
One word of advice...
Do not try to ``reform`` the Beej. It does not work well. As we say in our part of the (old) world!
बड़का, बड़का गईलन
त छोटू मियॉं अइलन ...
#65 Posted by okhla99 on May 23, 2007 8:02:42 pm
Re: # 63
Abey Besharam BJK,
Are you going to aplogize for the filthy language in #49 or not?
Or are you claiming that the rules are different for you???
Remember, your words come back to haunt you. Also, for a specimen civilized response refer my #51.
Why are you not whining to Chowk editors anymore?
Abey Besharam BJK,
Are you going to aplogize for the filthy language in #49 or not?
Or are you claiming that the rules are different for you???
Remember, your words come back to haunt you. Also, for a specimen civilized response refer my #51.
Why are you not whining to Chowk editors anymore?
#64 Posted by teshah on May 23, 2007 7:57:18 pm
Dear Akbar
I am one with Zeena to congratulate you. The fact that I and Zeena could agree with you shows that what you wrote is the voice of the nation except, of course, the goons of MQM. It recalls to me a couplet of Ghalib:
“Dekhna ‘tehrir’ ki lazzat jo us ne ‘likhaa’
Mein ne yih jaana kih goya yih bhi mere dil mein he”
I say why worry about the alternatives. A genuine revolution always brings forth its own leadership. Har Firowne ra Musa. We should hope for the best as even every Satan has its future and every angel its past.
I am one with Zeena to congratulate you. The fact that I and Zeena could agree with you shows that what you wrote is the voice of the nation except, of course, the goons of MQM. It recalls to me a couplet of Ghalib:
“Dekhna ‘tehrir’ ki lazzat jo us ne ‘likhaa’
Mein ne yih jaana kih goya yih bhi mere dil mein he”
I say why worry about the alternatives. A genuine revolution always brings forth its own leadership. Har Firowne ra Musa. We should hope for the best as even every Satan has its future and every angel its past.
#63 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2007 6:07:33 pm
#61 Chaltahai
Yaar, do you really need to be the flip side of okhla?!! :)
#62 Posted by aslam644 on May 23, 2007 1:07:55 pm
Re: # 60
Masadi
I would say 90% of the blame lies within the country.
(a) at independence Pakistan’s population was 35M, presently it is 150M whatever surplus it produces it is eaten away by rising population, for the size of the country it should never have risen above 100M and stabilize thereabouts.
Imagine if UK’s population which was 50m in 1945 and had similar rise as Pakistan it would be over 200M, that would have sunk UK to 4th world.
Similar situation in India it should never have risen above 500M.
Solution there should have been from day one compulsory family planning as in china.
(b) Education, Education, Education,
There should have been compulsory education at least to primary level with complete gender equality.
(c) Environment should have been priority from day one with land and water mangement, soil conservation, forestry, nature reserves, pollution control etc.
The West has been very successful in (a)(b) and they are working on (c).
Is it too late for Pakistan? No, better late than never.
Masadi
I would say 90% of the blame lies within the country.
(a) at independence Pakistan’s population was 35M, presently it is 150M whatever surplus it produces it is eaten away by rising population, for the size of the country it should never have risen above 100M and stabilize thereabouts.
Imagine if UK’s population which was 50m in 1945 and had similar rise as Pakistan it would be over 200M, that would have sunk UK to 4th world.
Similar situation in India it should never have risen above 500M.
Solution there should have been from day one compulsory family planning as in china.
(b) Education, Education, Education,
There should have been compulsory education at least to primary level with complete gender equality.
(c) Environment should have been priority from day one with land and water mangement, soil conservation, forestry, nature reserves, pollution control etc.
The West has been very successful in (a)(b) and they are working on (c).
Is it too late for Pakistan? No, better late than never.
#61 Posted by chaltahai on May 23, 2007 11:58:59 am
Re: # 59
Just ebcause you teach some drivel to 240 underacheivers in Pakistan, doesn;t mean it validates what you say. What US elites do you keep carping about? You are the PEON masadi, a person who failed miserably at everything that he did and is now bitter about the system that couldn`t validate your blame displacment for your shortcomings.
Just ebcause you teach some drivel to 240 underacheivers in Pakistan, doesn;t mean it validates what you say. What US elites do you keep carping about? You are the PEON masadi, a person who failed miserably at everything that he did and is now bitter about the system that couldn`t validate your blame displacment for your shortcomings.
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