Rise of Hindu Right Wing Ideology

Re: # 113
"what annoys but doesn't surprise me is that whenever an article is published on chowk criticising hindu right wing fascist ideology none of the indian interactors on chowk ever discuss the facts seriously; they either ignore it or resort to abuse or try to change the subject.

maybe it hurts them to look at the dark fascist heart at the centre of their religion when all along they've been telling the world how peaceful hinduism is as a religion. it seems that the real believing hindus are worse than the nazis."

Dear

Naqash- Bandi Mullah, You need to have a mental check up and body scan with your family doctor. You may refer to my post No# 135. Even we Hindus and Sikhs feel the same way. Secondly Pakistan has a poor Human Rights record towards Minorities (Hindus, Christians, Parsis and Sikhs). As Mr Irfan Hussein puts it “Pakistan are concerned about the plight of Urdu Language in Neighboring India. But ask the same Pakistanis about the status of Hindi Language in Pakistan. There was a time during Partition of India when Hindi was considered a Language of Enemy in Pakistan. Any one teaching, Learning or writing Hindi was considered a traitor and even declared a Anti National. Hindus are worse then Nazis while Pakistanis including (Naqash Mullaha) are god fearing and straight forward people. First off all who are you to judge us.

Regards

Iqbal Singh.

Re: # 134well again ur making ur decision which r based on false theory so i totally not agree wid u as far as concept of jihad in minds of a PAKISTANI is concerned then u better open QURANPAK & seee the translation then u'll get to know properly abt each & every thing.

iqbal492, let's be more even-handed. Given what Pakistanis are facing, I would submit, they have been exceptionally large-hearted and generous toward Ahmedis.

It is fashionable, among the ignorant, to drag Pakistanis through mud for being the only nation that asks for religion on Passport in that way, but then other Muslim nations DON'T face anything like what Pakistanis face from Ahmedis. Even Bahais don't pretend to be Muslims anymore.

I once asked our sattar bhai which other Muslim nations have thriving Ahemdi communities. He answered by discovering some new interpretation of my questions (which of course I never understood). One suspects Pakistanis are not totally irrational to be at least as wary of Ahmedis as they have been. They could have been, totally justifiably, much more particular.

Dear dawa-i-dil, Hussain Abbas and others

Next time I would request you to write a article on Rise of Islamic Left Wing Ideology.
You have nothing to worry. The inputs and the reading material will be given by me. I have done a extensive research, you can say PHD and Masters on Islamic terrorism and radicalism. The fundamentals in your country are demanding a religious column in passports. Nowhere in the world you would come across such a thing. The Lal Masjid episode where the Mullahs kidnapped Chinese Nationals and Prostitute. The whole of Pakistan was burning after the Danish Cartoon Story. Last year a Christian Medical had filled a petition in Lahore High Court. The petitioner alleges that Muslims who learn the Koran by heart are given 20% marks. The same principal does not apply to Christians, Hindus and Sikhs for reading their religious books. The radicals have hijacked your country. The Karachi French Blasts, the attack on European Nationals and US Diplomats. Many of the countries have warned their citizens and residents from traveling to Pakistan. Most of the cricket teams had cancelled/boycotted/refused to play in Pakistan causing losses to Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB). According to Ayaz Amir the fundamentals in Pakistan are thinking of how to make Pakistan more Islamic in the land of Pure where more then 90% Muslims reside. Even Mushraff once admitted the main threat to Pakistan is internal one and not external.

I would kindly request the author to read the above material and respond. Even a prompt reply will be highly appreciated.


Regards

Iqbal Singh (Indian Punjab)

Actually, the root cause of Pakistan's problem is in some popular interpretations of Islam itself.

These interpretations of Islam creates a caricature of human beings - who are guided by some sort of super human person who acts as the post man for God.

These caricatures are eternally fighting idolators like me. Killing me and beheading me until I accept there DAWAH, and then join their gang.

Then I am supposed to loot my former brothers, kill my un recanted idolator fathers and relatives and rape my own cousins.

This caricature is called the supreme mard-e-momeen- that is the root of Pakistani citizen identity that is moulded through the laws and hadiths of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The only way to destroy this caricature is through banishing Islam from the roots of Pakistan.- otherwise we would have these caricatures of Fanne Khan and Tees Maar Khan blowing themselves up along with Pakistan like the Lal Masjid Ghazi has already predicted.

Re: # 113

If it is indeed the case that the real believing Hindus are worse than the Nazis (and I know that not to be the case with some) then one could also say that some of the real believing Muslims are worse or at the same level as Osama Bin Laden. What I find quite funny about all this, is how at some point there is a "Muslim" counterpart to Arjun (who is not even a believer from what I understand) or some of the other "Hindus" in these discussions.

So yeah, we could all show each other a mirror. It helps when the mirror is not distorted to begin with though. :) There is nothing funny about ideology be it right-wing or left-wing, extremism does not work from either side, but none of the discussions are proving to be too useful either, which is hardly surprising here at Chowk.

Hussain Abbas, well done... but you haven't mention, (as ladu says, anti-political islam) the pure political hindu term, "Mahabharata." It's a prophesy about nuclear destruction of two cities of the western india (pakistan.)

Every, not only extremist, Hindu believe in it. Just like appeasment of the genocidal desire.

Re: # 128 amma yaar...i am saying about Nehru's sister quote...

dayya rai dayya ...hehehe

hey Jhoote,

cut this Ghazi crap.

Get a life.

DESTRUCTION OF INDIA'S BIGGEST TORTURE CELL & ORDNANCE DEPOT - in the words of a Ghazi himself

Re: # 126

mian yeh 1 momeen 10/100 ke barabar is a myth propounded in Hadiths and is the cause of Pakistani stupidies.

Forget this nonsense about one musalmaan equal to 100 kafirs and having strength of 40 men and become a true human being.

less than jinnah...100 gandhi + 200 Abul Kalam

this is said by Vijai laxami pandit..sis..of Nehru..

one thing 9is certain...Jinnah is unparallel...

100 gandhi + 200 Abul kalam

Re: # 113

Mian,

What is this Hindu right wing stuff?

There is hardly an ideology or a world view.

It talks about mushy 'dharte ke laal' nationalist stuff. They have no idea about Sanatan Dharma, Buddhism , Jainism or pure idolatory.

They are basicially anti-Islam.

Even more rightly, they are anti-Political Islam.

So what's new now. The entire west is anti-Political Islam.
Right wing Hindus are part of the idolator resistence movement that has been going on since last 1000 years.

This represent the unbroken string of resistence against Islam and Quran inspired violence and barbarity against idolator hindus and tehri temples of idolatory.

This rightly subsumes Sivaji and other hindu resistence leaders.

These right wingers are certainly NOT pro-Hindu.

They are certainly anti-Political Islam.

BTW, RSS Hindutva also subsumes muslims who are nationalists.

But, these are certainly NOT pro-Hinduism or idolatory, many of them like Advani or Bajpai were actually part of the dhimmi culture that by default accepts the superiority of "formless" imaginary God.

None of them know about nitya karmas or naimitikka karmas.

They were basically Adharmic Dhimmis.

Naqsh#113:


Yes, there is a rise of hindutva and I would go as far as to say that 21% vote is not a clear indication of its magnitude; many of the remaining 79% are not necessarily against hindutva as hindutva is rarely a deciding issue, except in the case of Modi's victory in Gujarat [BTW, the reverse is also true, not all of those who voted for the BJP are for the hindutva, many of them would have voted for the candidate or the Party on the basis of caste, economic or other issues, such as corruption].

But this article is not based on even a minimum quantum of research and hence does not deserve a serious response.