The 'One God' Religions of Revelation

dost_mittar: #947

What you say really disproves what I have been saying (unless your friend is a Muslim). It means that a Mullah was able to read the Nikah of a Muslim girl with a Non-Muslim boy. If he has done that, there should soon be a fatwa against him.

He converted just for getting married in the mosque and then re-converted for getting married in the temple.

This is just to convince parents on both sides. :-)
I don't think either of the two are religious.

Re: # 978 Baig,

We all evolve on daily basis as we are also influenced by others views and more information turning into knowledge into wisdom. I will look at your articles but your current views would take the discussion to fruitful conclusion.

You have not answered why do you coin new word Bramhinism? Bramhin, as caste would not say that they are propagating bramhinism.

Why are you writing about something which you have not lived as a dogma or creed? I am assuming you are a Muslim. In case so, you are more qualified to write on Islam. Some one here mentioned that you are married to a Hindu lady. You can tell us more about inter faith marriages, and the joys and struggles in such marriages. This would help others now or in future. Tell us more about how you raised kids of mixed faith. I guess you live in India, then tell us more about what you and your family has done to bridge the gap between Hindus and Muslims. Muslims generally do not try to own the culture or history of India esp one before 1K year before. They do not have clue about local saints and sages of the area in which they live. They even do not try to learn the local language.

Recently, a Muslim fellow came to me for some help. After the help he wanted to treat me. I told him that I would rather visit his family and have some snacks with tea at his place. Reluctantly he agreed. I could see why he was reluctant. They lived in a poor Muslim slum area. May be little better than slum. He had two boys and two girls. Girls went to Madarassa where they were taught only Urdu and Arabic. The boys went to vernacular local school and college. Girls could not speak the local language. It was shocking. Here is a family who lived in the same town for more than 100 years and some of its members could not talk in local language or pretend not to know.

To get an idea of where I am, I asked who were the smart boys or girls, who got very high marks in 10th and 12th. His son took few names. I asked if you can call them. Then I had a talk with these 11-13 graders. All of the girls (4 out of 6) went to madarassa. They had more marks because of very high marks in Urdu and Arabic. To these 17-20 years old I gave a simple puzzle of finding the digits of a five digit number which when multiplied by four reverses its digits. The smart among them even did not know how to form an equation. They were clueless. Even after giving hints and lots of prodding there was no progress in sloving the puzzle.

TV is there in the house but it brings only bad news, scantily clad women and Mr. Naik's vitriol. I felt Muslims are slipping away by their choices. Folks like you need to do something for these folks. When I gave the same puzzle to a class of V graders in a slum school in other area, the sparky eyed kids started working on it immediately, and in 15 minutes at least 7 out of 40 kids solved it.

Instead of working on history of others, let us make the history!

Re: # 977

It is so easy.

Please click on my name in THIS article and Chowk will immediately show you a list of the 15 earlier articles I had written.

The last article was on the persecution of the Buddhists and Jains and an earlier one in September 2006 was on the evolution of `Hiduism'. There are also some on how Islam was similarly distorted by motivated priests and clerics.

Baig,

Which article? Pl provide the link. What is this Bramhinism? How is it different from what others here have mentioned as Sanatan Dharm and Hinduism?

Since those are your articles can you please cut and paste the whole article or relevant parts.

Thanks!

Re: # 955

Long held opinions yield reluctantly to fact.

As in my last interact you will find that I have given chapter and verse about Brahminical - not Hindu - persecution of Buddhists and Jains. Please revert to my last Chowk article and please read my replies to similar questions before venting your `opinion'.

And as I have said in earlier interacts I love the faiths but follow no `religion' so do not try to accuse me of religious bias. You are only trying that dirty old trick of shooting the messenger. Please stick to the message and stick to veriafiable facts.

Re: # 951

Why don't you read my last Chowk article for facts about on how severely the Buddhists and Jains were persecuted.

Tahmed # 958,

"except for BJP trying to emulate long-dead muslim invaders by destroying Babri Mosque"

Aapne hamarey statement kee hawa nikaal dee... -:)
Have a good long weekend.

Tahmed, peon of the West writes "...and "celebrate diversity" as they say in the US"

True, they "say" that because words are cheap and easy tools for manipulation but where it comes to practice, the internal segregation and wholesale imprisonment of AAs, not to mention the bigoted foreign policy and attitude towards immigrants revealed in poll after poll reveals just how "celebrating" of diversity the US is.....

#966: Ahmed,

Please tell me why is it irrational?

Isn't Pakistan fighting Jihad in Kashmir because the valley has Muslim majority? Didn't Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan destroyed Buddha statues because Islam dictates that?

Most of the Islamists have this rationality - Head you lose, tail I win! You might be an exception.

Yea, signifier-less fanatic is fine according to your logic.
Hopefully, in the future we won't see you using the baseless
term, "Hindu Fanatic".


My view is though totally opposite, I think anyone
can be any kind of fanatic. A person who takes
something (thing for which we need a signifier) on the extreme separates him from the crowd.

A person could be a religious, ethnic,
linguistic, cultural, a particular kind of wine or art(etc)
fanatic.

"Normal people can then see cultural, ethnic and religious differences as something that makes life more interesting, and "celebrate diversity" as they say in the US."

Yes, but that's confusing "accepting diversity" with
acceptance of intolerance and bigotry of a fanatic. Two
separate things, imo.

and i am sure you will take #969 seriously. :-)

#967: of course. and i see evidence of that every day on chowk.

Pro-US Statement Alert for Emperor Masadi!!

See last line of my post #965. Time for you to write a lengthy post concerning peons of the west.

""celebrate diversity" as they say in the US"

If there is a country or civilization which truly celebrated diversity, then it is none other than India.

#964 truth: while you chose a flattering nick for yourself, your post is basically irrational. i am not going to attempt to change you into a rational person. only you can do it. and when you do, then we can talk. have a good day till then. :-)

#962 and btw i refer to "islamist fanatics" too - although the adjective is misleading, per #963 below, it does provide some additional info (i.e. the religion or ethnic group in whose name the lunatic is attacking people or destroying things).

personally, i would be very pleased to simply draw the line first and foremost between fanatics and normal people. The former belong in the lunatic asylum or behind bars when they commit criminal acts.

Normal people can then see cultural, ethnic and religious differences as something that makes life more interesting, and "celebrate diversity" as they say in the US.