Saeed Urrehman August 21, 2008
#7 Posted by Ras on August 27, 2008 7:56:24 am
A great writer in the same tradition as Faiz and Faraz.
A huge loss for his people.
#6 Posted by ahmedmadani on August 26, 2008 10:28:24 pm
Thanks for writing article and reminding people about palestine.
Recently pakitani people are becoming introvert and is understandable as life is more harsh than before. But should people not care about other sufferes than care and worry about themselves. Time erodes everything. When ZAB was in power he was diecting Ummah and all muslim Ummah was electrified. ZAB,s great admirer mr/ Gaddafi and all others were always any thing with mentioning of Palestine . Now all people just care about there own struggles. That damages Ummah. Now a days nobdy talks about kashmir ( they say just for formality but not ready to fight and feat india), Poor chechans and Georgia muslims are hit by russians nobdy say much. Thii and Burmi muslims are suffering and no body say nothing. Ughar are slaughterd by Chinese communists nobody say nothing. Sadly america atleast says something. Now lands of muslims , great cities of Bagdad and and Kabul are invaded by western elites and many muslims countries are dirctly helping the oppression for money and many arab countries are hosting western armies to invade brother countries of Ummah. All Muslim nations if tell wester elites please allow muslims to deal muslim problems message can go but. There is no unity but just cutting each others throat to plaese western elites.
Recently Palestine subject is put on back burner as usa controls country no surprise.
Good day.
Recently pakitani people are becoming introvert and is understandable as life is more harsh than before. But should people not care about other sufferes than care and worry about themselves. Time erodes everything. When ZAB was in power he was diecting Ummah and all muslim Ummah was electrified. ZAB,s great admirer mr/ Gaddafi and all others were always any thing with mentioning of Palestine . Now all people just care about there own struggles. That damages Ummah. Now a days nobdy talks about kashmir ( they say just for formality but not ready to fight and feat india), Poor chechans and Georgia muslims are hit by russians nobdy say much. Thii and Burmi muslims are suffering and no body say nothing. Ughar are slaughterd by Chinese communists nobody say nothing. Sadly america atleast says something. Now lands of muslims , great cities of Bagdad and and Kabul are invaded by western elites and many muslims countries are dirctly helping the oppression for money and many arab countries are hosting western armies to invade brother countries of Ummah. All Muslim nations if tell wester elites please allow muslims to deal muslim problems message can go but. There is no unity but just cutting each others throat to plaese western elites.
Recently Palestine subject is put on back burner as usa controls country no surprise.
Good day.
#5 Posted by ejazharoon on August 26, 2008 8:31:20 pm
Would his poetry have been so poignant if he hadn't felt the loss of his country and his identity?
#4 Posted by masadi on August 26, 2008 8:25:03 pm
tahmed writes "...pakistanis and indians got over it fast and moved on with their lives."
Where did they move on to? Certainly not to houses and pasture fields, they moved on to poverty that matches that of the Palestinians even though they are not surrounded by occupation armies. Were your "lords and masters" the British still occupying the land, these people you say "moved on" would not have "moved on". Like the Palestinians who refuse to submit to tyranny they would have fought the enslavers of humankind, while Mir Jafar's of your calibre would have been calling for them to "move on".
You should really be ashamed of yourself, but have a nice day for the judgment is nigh...
Keep it real, humanity will heal, the devil's fate will seal, don't reinvent the colonial wheel,
TNI Masadi
Where did they move on to? Certainly not to houses and pasture fields, they moved on to poverty that matches that of the Palestinians even though they are not surrounded by occupation armies. Were your "lords and masters" the British still occupying the land, these people you say "moved on" would not have "moved on". Like the Palestinians who refuse to submit to tyranny they would have fought the enslavers of humankind, while Mir Jafar's of your calibre would have been calling for them to "move on".
You should really be ashamed of yourself, but have a nice day for the judgment is nigh...
Keep it real, humanity will heal, the devil's fate will seal, don't reinvent the colonial wheel,
TNI Masadi
#3 Posted by masadi on August 26, 2008 6:54:28 pm
tahmed writes "ten times more people "lost their orchards" in the subcontinent at the same time as the palestinians.
Only difference - palestinians couldnt get over it and move on. pakistanis and indians got over it fast and moved on with their lives."
Ahmad sahib, How are you doing?
Sorry to say this but your traits of "worshipping the white man" come through in this piece by you as well. Nominal numbers don't matter where it comes to injustice, the percent of the population does and there the weight is on the palestinian side. Further Pakistan and India are not occupied by those that usurped their orchards and land and made them homeless like Palestine is, neither do they have to go through the daily humiliation that the defeated and relegated to refugee camps Palestinians have to and that in close proximity to their enslavers that have used the land of the Palestinians to enrich themselves while at the same time concentrating poverty in the occupied territories. That you would blame the victims in this case tell us that you not only share in the responsibility of the barbarism of the Israelis, you have extremely weak morals and lack empathy for the human condition of victims where it concerns the doings of the allies of those you worship.
I would damn you and ask God to destroy your soul for all eternity if I was the old masadi but since I am TNI,
you have a nice day for the judgment is nigh,
TNI Masadi
Only difference - palestinians couldnt get over it and move on. pakistanis and indians got over it fast and moved on with their lives."
Ahmad sahib, How are you doing?
Sorry to say this but your traits of "worshipping the white man" come through in this piece by you as well. Nominal numbers don't matter where it comes to injustice, the percent of the population does and there the weight is on the palestinian side. Further Pakistan and India are not occupied by those that usurped their orchards and land and made them homeless like Palestine is, neither do they have to go through the daily humiliation that the defeated and relegated to refugee camps Palestinians have to and that in close proximity to their enslavers that have used the land of the Palestinians to enrich themselves while at the same time concentrating poverty in the occupied territories. That you would blame the victims in this case tell us that you not only share in the responsibility of the barbarism of the Israelis, you have extremely weak morals and lack empathy for the human condition of victims where it concerns the doings of the allies of those you worship.
I would damn you and ask God to destroy your soul for all eternity if I was the old masadi but since I am TNI,
you have a nice day for the judgment is nigh,
TNI Masadi
#2 Posted by tahmed32 on August 26, 2008 6:23:39 pm
ten times more people "lost their orchards" in the subcontinent at the same time as the palestinians.
Only difference - palestinians couldnt get over it and move on. pakistanis and indians got over it fast and moved on with their lives.
A humanist does not spend his time in self-pity. He does something to make life better for fellow human beings - regardless of their ethnicity, religion, and so on. That is what "humanist" means.
Only difference - palestinians couldnt get over it and move on. pakistanis and indians got over it fast and moved on with their lives.
A humanist does not spend his time in self-pity. He does something to make life better for fellow human beings - regardless of their ethnicity, religion, and so on. That is what "humanist" means.
#1 Posted by MeiraJ08 on August 26, 2008 9:00:42 am
"I am an Arab
You have stolen the orchards of my ancestors
And the land which I cultivated"
A sense of identity, in the roots of matter, the simplicity asks...never begs.
"I want the aroma of coffee. I want nothing more than the aroma of coffee. And I want nothing more from the passing days than the aroma of coffee. The aroma of coffee so I can hold myself together, stand on my feet, and be transformed from something that crawls, into a human being."
--Intense, and revolutionary..why? because he knows there is more to life and being human. We have a 'black cafe' at Chowk, right? Thank god, we'll need it to survive, ourselves some day.
And your line:
"a new poetic intensity into the critique of imperialism and occupation" -- that's just it Saeed, that's just it. A much required writing. Thank you.
--Fatima Mirza
In the nearest language, it always works.
You have stolen the orchards of my ancestors
And the land which I cultivated"
A sense of identity, in the roots of matter, the simplicity asks...never begs.
"I want the aroma of coffee. I want nothing more than the aroma of coffee. And I want nothing more from the passing days than the aroma of coffee. The aroma of coffee so I can hold myself together, stand on my feet, and be transformed from something that crawls, into a human being."
--Intense, and revolutionary..why? because he knows there is more to life and being human. We have a 'black cafe' at Chowk, right? Thank god, we'll need it to survive, ourselves some day.
And your line:
"a new poetic intensity into the critique of imperialism and occupation" -- that's just it Saeed, that's just it. A much required writing. Thank you.
--Fatima Mirza
In the nearest language, it always works.
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