The Virulet Virus of Wahhabi Intolerance

thank you MR.murad for adding such kind of informative seaction. people of pakistan are really worried about that we built over pakistan on the base of KALMA _E_TOHEED but over country is suffered from such kind of difficulties. i think so these all kind of difficultes are because of this fitna wahabia. Over country are built on "LA ILAHA ILALH "and this fitna strugle to stop them to moving on "MUHAMMADAR RASOOL ALLAH" means it works day and night for finishing the dictom of holy prophet actually these are the enemies of over holy prophet and if we have to save over country from this fitna we have to make over country a true followers of profhet salaah la ho allayewa allahe wasalam.

Readers should know that the Wahhabis/ Salafis started about 1744 was the big daddy of many other extreme Islamic creeds. The Deobandis were started in 1866 by two Wahhabis clerics after the Patna trials (post 1857) and the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikwhan) in Egypt that later assassinated Enver Sadat in 1981 was also its progeny. Osama Bin Laden
is regarded as a follower too. The Indonesian Jemaah Islamya (Bali) is also a Salafi group. The Madrid and London bombers are also considered connected as also Chechnya and the Taliban. So almost wherever we look we see the long shadow of that heretic Abd Al Wahhab. So the world must unite against them and their Saudi and other financiers.

But it has to also be said that religious extremism was not the prerogative of Islam but blossomed whenever bigoted professional priests got their teeth into religion as with the Spanish Inquisition, the murderous Christian Pogroms against Jews andthe witch hunts by America's Puritans.

#146 Posted by muradbaig

[True. The muslims ardently believed that their's was the true path and were very evangilical in Persia. They were however kept in separate cantonments and not encouraged to mix with the persians who were allowed to follow most of their customs. So Persia adopted the schism of Shia into which they retained many of their customs. ]

Is that why the Parsees fled to India? To escape from religious tolerance?

Re: # 127
Mr.Murad! I would like to enlighten about history of kharajies.
After Event of Karbala, yazid malaoun said "i am proud today to get a revenge of my forefather who were killed in Badar,Ohad,khanadaq ...."
Today the people who are disguise themselves in ulema are most dangerous. They are supporting yazid and saying him razi Allah.thier imam is yazid who were accept islam for sake of power and rule,but they did'int accept EMAN.In Qurran Allah mention them with title of "munafqeen".
munafqeens are more worst enemy of Muslim than jews,christian and kafirs.
In Qurran Allah says "They spread violence for sake of imposing islamic "

Dear chowk staff, since Baig sahib is too kind to bother you over trivial matters (and I never am), I take the initiative to recommend inserting the word "Virulent" in the title -- at the expense of the currently ensconced "Virulet" -- a word that remains to be invented except right here on this site.

You're right, I had forgotten. I remember reading/being-taught that when young. I was wondering if there were other sources as well.

Re: # 149
I will look for one but the early accounts of Muhammed's life record how he stopped several times to observe the Arab customs of fasting and resting for long periods of the summer when food was always scarce.

Baig Sahib,

Interesting what you said about Ramazan and Eid being preIslamic customs. Would you have an easily accessible reference for this?

Thank you.

Iran only became Shia in the 16th century when the Safavids forced everyone to convert. Before that, while there were Shias in Iran, it was a Sunni area.

looking forward to your new article murad.

Re: # 145
True. The muslims ardently believed that their's was the true path and were very evangilical in Persia. They were however kept in separate cantonments and not encouraged to mix with the persians who were allowed to follow most of their customs. So Persia adopted the schism of Shia into which they retained many of their customs.

Re: # 144
nb...
Persians were converted to muslaism through invastion/sword and not through sufism etc....they are one of the ardent followers of islam, now...
when you force a dog to eat dal rice for couplr of months, it becomes vegetarian...

The central asian looters ravaged current day pakistan more than any area of India-Pakistan....but still these looters are national icons to Pakistanis...the matter is not that simple....

#142 Thanks for your reflective answer.
Yes, it was easy to revert to earlier faiths in a free society, which these were not; there were heavy penalties including death. Also, once forced into a religion, people tend to try and justify their behaviour, it is difficult to admit their own fear or greed.
You are right that the numbers of Turks and Mughals were not huge, but it was enough to rule India and loot her treasuries (not all Mughals, of course). Why would they not have been enough to convert a few people at a time?
Also once people were converted and made to eat beef, etc, they were no longer welcome back into Hinduism. Don't forget how recent Shuddhi ceremonies are.
My own family has a legend that says lands were taken away from it by the Nawab of Murshidabad after conversion was refused, and I have heard similar histories in other families. This is also recorded in land records of the time, as a cousin of mine found while researching the issue.

Re: # 139

religions preach the faith of their founders but they also carry a huge baggage of customs that are social rather than spiritual. Easter and Christmas were never part of the teachings of Christ while Eid and Ramzan were ancient Arab customs that long predated the advent of Islam. Revenge was also an old Arab custom that has unfortunately become a part of the Muslim tradition worldwide. Revenge had been a necessary survival custom in the precarious times when small tribes of Arab Bedouins had to protect themselves from bigger or more powerful tribes who, without the fear of revenge, could easily loot or molest them.

Life in the desert was always very tenuous and there was fierce competition over the scarce sources of food or water. Individuals could not survive except with the protection of the bonds of blood within their tribes and through alliances with other tribes. This was expressed in the Arab ideology of Muruwah that not only meant manliness, pride and courage but endurance in suffering, protection of the weak, avenging each and every injustice and boldly defying stronger enemies regardless of the consequences. This philosophy also glorified the most generous hospitality to friends and equally intense hatred to enemies.

Oppressors had to therefore be very careful for this well established tribal code made it certain that any injustice would be avenged at some future date. Regardless of power and position no one could ever be absolutely safe from attack, had to tolerate lesser tribes and be very careful not to incite any serious animosity. The American cowboy glorification of revenge arose out of similar compulsions among numerous isolated ranchers who, far from legal remedies, had to protect themselves from their potential oppressors. Paradoxically today we see America’s cowboy spirit pitted against the Muruwah spirit of the Muslim world that views America as an oppr

Re: # 133

Dear nb

We all get more reflective as we get older and religion is part of the process but you can have more than one passion. You can love your wife as well as your dog. My only qualification is in history where I have a MA but my career went into many different things from advertising, marketing, PR and consultant to power companies and I began writing about cars in 1995.

I believe that there is considerable evidence that the sufis had a huge influence in gently converting millions willingly to Islam and will post an article soon on the subject. The numbers of Turks and Mughals were not huge and many Indians willingly converted to the faith of their rulers. I do not believe forcable conversions could have worked. It was too easy to revert to earlier faiths unless there was a conversion of the hearts.

Don't hate wahabis just because they are beautiful