Reasons for War in the Pakhtun Land

Doesn't it surprise anyone that JI and JUI come out fully to rescue their "assets" under threat up in Malakand/Swat.

Hear their cries...

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Re: # 34

The Pakistani establishment has a long proud history of creating and nurturing the religious fanatics in order to weaken the secular nationalists in the Frontier province, FATA and even in Balochestan whose people are far more secular than those of FATA and the Frontier province. Although many Pashtuns have fallen in this trap time and again but the Balochs have always successfully resisted such tactics of the establishment, they always were and still are secular nationalists.

MMA was also created by the establishment and the current ongoing humanitarian disaster is the direct consequence of 5 years MullahMilitryAlliance rule over Pashtunkhwa.

It is an obvious and well-known fact that the establishment detests Pashtun and Baloch nationalists and it has never missed any opportunity to eliminate them. Three Baloch leaders were killed in Turbat recentll and the whole Balochestan knows whose hands are stained with their blood.

Seems pretty clear to me that we have a couple of goons who are pretending to be Pakhtuns and making statements to piss Pakistanis off. Zeus, if you were a pathan...you wouldn't be using the term "Pashtun". Secondly, you would know from living in Pakistan that JI and JUI barely get any coverage as compared to MQM, PPP and PMLN. I am going to put a 10 foot pole up Chowk for this shit....I have warned them already and I promise all of you that you will see Chowk in trouble very shortly.

@khyber: But the media coverage given to JI and JUI is much greater than their popularity. This shows that pakistani(punjabi) establishment still keeps soft corner for these religious parties to counter the genuine nationalistic aspirations of Pashtuns.

There are many political parties today that are shedding tears over the military operation against the Taliban, despite a realisation across Pakistan that the Taliban are our enemies and must be destroyed, given that all other options have failed. But then it should not be so surprising given the history of some of these parties, which were propped up by the regime of General Zia-ul Haq, and were at the forefront of sowing the seeds of the extremism and terrorism we see today. Their hypocrisy and lies should be challenged by civil society and the media so that they may not mislead the nation.
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#34

I cant believe it, but I agree with tAhmad. Whats this world coming to?

#31 Dont twist facts to match your own twisted mind.

TrichMir: Agreed on Sindh, and it is very disappointing to see MQM change its tune so quickly after having taking the correct stand against terrorists.

But what about the Panjab? No "hartals" there against IDPs finding refuge there. Only volunteers doing collections, providing medical services.

And while you are at it, look at Afsandyar Wali Khan the coward who went into hiding until the military had put the taliban in their place - and emerged only to start exerting "authority" by restricting aid to IDPs to be channelled only through his own party.

A prime example of Paki brotherhood.

IDPs in Sind, Dawn.Com
At a time when the item at the top of our agenda should be the alleviation of the miseries of hundreds of thousands of people displaced from Swat and Fata, it is disturbing that the tragedy is assuming an ethnic dimension in Sindh.

If IDPs are fleeing their homes, they have no choice as their land is now a theatre of war. According to estimates, 1.5 million have become homeless in the last few weeks with a considerable number having come down to Sindh, mainly Karachi which has a sizable Pakhtun population. It is a pity that this influx has given rise to a strong reaction from the MQM and Sindh’s nationalist parties that are disturbed by any event that has the potential of upsetting the province’s ethnic balance. It is, however, important that in this hour of crisis the humanitarian aspect of the matter is not lost sight of. IDPs are entitled to economic assistance and social protection under international law and to all the rights the Pakistani constitution grants them, including the freedom of movement within the country.

Seen in this perspective, is the MQM right in demanding the compulsory registration of all IDPs and confining them to camps that do not even exist? Though one may understand the concerns of the local population a large chunk of which is poor and disadvantaged, this is not the time to start a debate on who is entitled to live where. Registration of IDPs is a ameasure that offers many procedural advantages. It facilitates the organisation and management of camps for the displaced. But it must be voluntary and for the specific purpose of providing relief and temporary rehabilitation and not for restricting movement. In the absence of camps many displaced people have sought refuge with family and friends who were already living in Sindh to earn their livelihood. In these circumstances the proposal for mandatory registration will be viewed with suspicion. The ANP has been registering IDPs to provide them relief. Over 4,000 families have been registered. It would relieve tensions if the Sindh and city governments, which include the MQM, also extended a helping hand to the IDPs.

It is ironic that the MQM, whose forefathers were provided sanctuary in Sindh in 1947, and the Sindhi nationalists, whose ancestors welcomed the ‘refugees’, should now be rejecting the IDPs. Fears that the displaced will not return home are unfounded. To equate them with the Taliban is another act of brazen prejudice. There is no denying that militants may have sneaked into the city but then Karachi has suffered violence at the hands of terrorists of every hue. Would it not be more feasible to adopt a policy that relies on effective intelligence, policing and de-weaponisation to weed out the terrorists in the city?

The ISI cum Punjabi mentality sees Al-Qaida cum Taliban ideology as a counteracting factor against Pashtun Nationalism.
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Nationalism is haram in Pakistani version of Islam, especially Pashtun and Baloch nationalism which is considered a bigger sin than any guhnahe kabeera.

Only those Pathans and Balochs are good Pathan and Balochs who have given up their own languages and culture and love to speak Ordoo, despise Hindu, and are always ready to let themselves rape in the name of Islam and paki brotherhood.

There is only one reason for war: Religious fanaticism.


War is good when kafirs are dying. Now the dogs are biting the masters.

Chowk should remove Pakhtoon Khan's article and publish a retraction. Its clearly over the line and can't be considered journalism, or even fair speech.

There is no Al-qaeda presence in Pakistan and pashtuns are the loyal pakistanis and the way Pakistani government and pakistanis are wholeheartedly supporting their own displaced family memebers show that pakistanis are one nation and all conspiracies to break them will fail.

The intention of writer is very conspicuous and with an agenda. The chowk should not allow such propoganda material to be published on this site.

"Based on my experience with the people involved...."

It really doesn't look like you have any experience with the people involved. You have not stated any sources in your article and anything which would demonstrate that you have such knowledge, let alone experience.

"The Al-Qaida mentality is purely an Arab mentality in the garb of religion. They are not interested in the materialisation of Monotheistic ideals translated into a socio-politico-economic system in the form of Islam but are more interested in the implementation of the Arab culture over the world using Islam as the tool for Arab domination instead of a panacea for woes of the world. This ideal of Al-Qaida therefore is indirectly an Arab nationalist ideal."

You say this based on what? A copy of the Al Qaeda constitution on their website? You moron...what facts do you have? In fact, what proof do you have that this organization even exists?

"It is this factor which attracts the Arab blood from across the world due to its anti-semetic appeal"

This sounds like it comes straight from the mouth of a guy who just pulled the deeply embedded pole of his foreign masters from his mouth. Anti-Semitism? What a totally stupid thing to say. Who do you work for? Or who are you trying to impress with this crap? My guess is you're trying to prove your poodle credentials to the goras who you hope will rule your ass again.

"Taliban is the localised version of Al-Qaida mentality."

Taliban existed for much longer than the myth of Al Qaeda. This is another example of baffling stupidity in pseudo journalism. How the hell could the Taliban be a localized version of Al Qaeda when the former predates the latter by many years?

"The interests of Taliban intersect with the ISI cum Punjabi ideals as far as the destabilising of India and Afghanistan are concerned. That is why army and ISI also corroborate Taliban’s ideology invisibly."

Again...some staggering leaps...no proof...just wild opinions and conspiracy theories. Punjabi ISI? I think you need to get an education. There are plenty of Pathans in the armed forces and ISI and there are plenty of Punjabis in the Taliban. Does this idiot actually get published anywhere else?

"The ISI cum Punjabi mentality sees Al-Qaida cum Taliban ideology as a counteracting factor against Pashtun Nationalism."

This sounds like hate speech against Punjabis. Chowk should not have published this....this idiot shouldn't have said it....but now that he has...it should be sufficient to demonstrate that he himself is the type of hate monger that he claims to be writing against. Yet another implant who is meant to divide and create hatred among the people of Pakistan.

"USA has a genuine concern against the rising power of China."

I guess this reveals who you're hoping to impress and work for. You sell out!

"Pakhtuns, despite of being a historically acclaimed potential retaliatory nation, have been denouncing and flaying extremism and terrorism in strong words and even stronger actions.

The fellow Americans have also started to realise the same, atleast as part of their current US foreign policy now, after ruining the Pakhtun land for the last three decades using the Pakistani army, ISI, Arabs, Central Asians and above all the feelings of our Idealist Afghans."

So now you spread your hatred from Punjabis to Arabs, central asians, all other Pakistanis and even idealistic Afghanis. The only potential friend you see are "fellow Americans". I hope someone in the Frontier reads your BS and pays you a visit to give you an education. Among the black community that suffered slavery, people like you were called "House Niggers"

"US should realise the fact, even now, that behind the "mad mullah" is a "bad military" of Pakistan and Al-Qaida has been Allocated-Quasi-political-aide-of America in the past."

So being a Pakistani and living in Pakistan, you declare Pakistanis and Pakistani institutions to be the enemy. Are you surprised than that too are treated like Sufi Mohammad?

"Pakhtuns, despite of the astraying propaganda by the theocracy and media of Pakistan, do not consider Americans as their real enemies."

Glad you spelled it out that you are in fact the enemy. Chowk should be investigated by PEMRA for this.

"It should be noticed that there is big media hype if a single non-Pashtun is killed in Pakistan while no TV channel, no newspaper, no human rights group ,no NGO literally no body except the International Socialists or Nationalists like PKMAP condemn the killing of even hundreds of Pakhtuns by the Pakistani army."

The people who are most strongly protesting the killing and injustice done to Pashtuns are those whom you call enemies....the Muslims of Pakistan who consider Pashtuns their brothers....I consider myself part of this group....however, Pashtuns like you should be jailed or executed in my opinion.

I intent to take this issue up with PEMRA and the relevant authorities. You're on notice...both Chowk and Pakhtun Khan.

Only justice to the federating units can save pakistan from disintegration.

Re: # 13
Pashtuns won't expand anywhere inside Iran or Central asia, they have thei well difined historical territory grabbed by the British and was donated to Pakistan. Just abolish Durand line and our land is complete. We don't need anymore land, the existing one is enough. We,alongwith Bengalis and Baloch have soon enough of Pakistan's culture and language imperialism apart from the total control over our natural resources. And you must understand one thing that Pashtun=afghan, there will be no Pashtunistan only greater Afghanistan.

Re: # 24...Hope so,it can only shine like a star if you have real revolution.
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