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salaamu alaikum krashid

i have posted a reply to your questions on the sunah quite a while ago.. plz see the other section

as to the work of Mohhaed saws

it was to make islam the reference point in life.

to enjoin the maruf (good righteous actions of islam) and forbid the munkar (evil haram actions)

hence Mohhaed saws sought authority from the people of influce and power, firstly in mecca then other terriotries so that he would have the power and authority to enjoin the maruf and forbid the munkar.

hence you will find he took bayah (allegiance) from the leaders yathrib (madina) twice. firstly they embraced islam, then they gave the bayah tul harb ( ei the the allegaince of war/fighting/power).

when Mohhaed saws entered madina he established the islamic state

only through having obtained authority was islam comprehensivelly implemented and applied.

such power and authority is highly recognised in islam as a neccisity and sincere ulama akhowledge it being a vital issue for the muslims and a fard.

Allah has promised to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, as He granted it to those before them, that He will establish in authority their Deen which He has chosen for them, and that He will change (their state) after the fear in which they lived, to one of security and peace: They will worship Me (alone) and not ascribe powers to any beside Me.’[24:55]

authroty does not mean like that of endhi foundation, who are regulated by a secular pakistan gov.t dominated by usa and u.n regulations,



or of other organisations in society, who whilst arguably do some good, do not enjoin the comprehesive good and forbid the evil in society. such roles of regulating society are done by a state, which has comprehesive authority over a land. and Mohhaed saws established such a state. and classified such a form of state the khilafah, as the method that muslims should be regulated in, maruf to be enjoined and munkar (evil0 to be prohibited,

Abu Hazim narrated that he accompanied Abu Hurairah for five years and heard him narrate about the Prophet saying: ``The Prophets ruled over the children of Israel, whenever a prophet died another prophet succeeded him, but there will be no prophet after me. There will be Khulafa`a and they will number many. They asked: What then do you order us?. He said: Fulfill the bay`ah to them one after the other and give them their due. Surely Allah will ask them about what He entrusted them with.``

hence i invite you and all muslims to study this vital work, and join the ranks of Hizb ut-tahrir the global islamic organisation working to resume islam as a way of life, via the re -establishment of the khilafah. implementation of islam, and conveying this message to the world

KHILAFAH- THE NEED OF THE TIME !

visit www.khilafah.com.pk

An Invitation from Hizb ut-Tahrir to the Muslims of Pakistan to Re-establish the Khilafah







May the peace and blessings of Allah (swt) be upon the final Messenger Muhammad (saw), upon his family, upon his Sahabah (companions), and upon all those who carried his da’wa, who adopted his method and followed his path.

Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu!

Allah (swt) states in his Noble Book:

``You are the best nation ever raised up for mankind, you enjoin the good and forbid the evil, and you believe in Allah.`` [TMQ Ale-Imran: 110]

And He (swt) states:

``Thus we have made you a just nation, that you be witnesses over mankind and the Messenger be a witness over you.``[TMQ Al-Baqarah: 143]

And He (swt) states:

``And we have not sent you [O Muhammad (saw)] except as a giver of glad tidings and a warner to all mankind`` [TMQ As-Saba: 28]

Allah (swt) sent His Messenger (saw) with the message of Islam to convey it to the whole of mankind. He (saw) indeed conveyed the message in the way it deserved to be conveyed. After him (saw), this responsibility was taken up by the Sahaba (ra), the Tabi’een, the Tabi Tabi’een, and the generations of Muslims who followed. Thus, both the Muslims and the Ahlel Dhimmah (people of the covenant) enjoyed peace and tranquillity under the shade of Islamic rule. Despite the tragic and bitter events of the Mongol invasions and the Crusader wars, the Ummah never neglected the responsibility of the da’wa and continued to struggle in carrying the da’wa forward. However, this Ummah indeed stepped back from the obligation of carrying the da’wa when the British Kuffar along with the help of some Jews succeeded in destroying the Khilafah and wiping out its existence after the First World War in 1924.

After the fall of the Khilafah, the Ummah met catastrophe after catastrophe, so she became separated into nations and groups. Thus, the Muslims despite possessing one Aqeedah, became divided based upon nation, country, group and differences of opinion over the furu’ (branches). After the Kuffar managed to disunite the Ummah and became dominant over it, they clasped her in the grip of capitalism; militarily, economically, politically and culturally. They then implemented the systems of kufr and introduced into the belief of the Muslims the idea of the separation of the Deen from this life. On top of this, the Kafir Christians, Jews and Hindus launched an onslaught against the Ummah. Were it not for the deep-rooted foundations of this Ummah, it would have submitted to the attack of the Kuffar and their agents and, like previous nations, would have been consigned to history.

In this situation, and in response to the command of Allah (swt), Hizb ut-Tahrir came into being:

``Let there arise out of you a group inviting to all that is good, enjoining al-Marouf and forbidding al-Munkar, and it is they who are successful.`` [TMQ Ale-Imran: 104]

Thus Hizb ut-Tahrir began its work to liberate the Ummah from the clutches of the Kuffar.

O Muslims! Know with certainty! Hizb ut-Tahrir is not just another group like all the other groups present in Pakistan or the Muslim World. The groups, parties and movements in the Muslim World can never be a substitute for Hizb ut-Tahrir, since they do not adopt Islam as a complete idea (fikra) and method (tariqa) and since they do not give priority to the life and death issue of this Ummah. Indeed they are negligent of the life and death issue. Of a surety, the life and death issue of the Muslim Ummah is the complete implementation of the Deen of Islam and the propagation of its message to the world. That is, the vital issue is the establishment of the Khilafah Rashida, the complete implementation of the Shariah, and the conveyance of the message of Islam to the whole of mankind. Only following this course can the Ummah reach its deserved status that was revealed by Allah (swt) in the Ayah:

``You are the best nation ever raised up for mankind, you enjoin the good and forbid the evil, and you believe in Allah.`` [TMQ Ale-Imran: 110]

Without doubt, it is an obligation (fard) upon the Muslims to carry the da’wa for Islam, and similarly it is an obligation (fard) upon the Muslims to work to establish the Khilafah. In fact, this is the most important obligation (fard), for it is the Khilafah that is the only method for implementing the entirety of the laws of Islam. It is in the presence of the Khilafah that the laws of Islam are implemented and it is in its absence that they are suspended.

Individual action alone is not enough to establish the Khilafah. The undertaking of this obligation revolves around working with a group that has the ability to bear the burden of this responsibility. There are two reasons why it is an obligation upon a Muslim to work with a group (that is, a party) in order to perform his responsibility of da’wa. The first is the statement of Allah (swt):

``Let there arise out of you a group inviting to all that is good, enjoining al-Marouf and forbidding al-Munkar, and it is they who are successful`` [TMQ Ale-Imran: 104]

The second is the Shariah principle, ``That which is necessary to achieve an obligation is in itself an obligation``.

The above Ayah makes it an obligation upon the Muslims that they establish an Ummah, that is, a group, which has one Amir, which calls to Islam, enjoins what is right and forbids what is evil. And it is the rulers who are most needy to be commanded with what is good and forbidden from what is evil. . Therefore, the ``Ummah`` which Allah (swt) commands us to establish is indeed a political group; that is, a political party. The above stated Shariah principle is also clear, in that Allah (swt) has declared it haram for the Muslims to rule according to the systems of kufr, and has made ruling according to the Shariah an obligation (fard). Allah (swt) states:

``And whosoever does not judge according to whatever Allah has revealed, such are the disbelievers`` [TMQ Al-Maida: 44]

He (swt) goes on to say:

``And so judge between them by that which Allah has revealed`` [TMQ Al-Maida: 49]

As the present rulers do not judge according to what Allah (swt) revealed, but rather judge according to the system of kufr, and indeed make excuses in order not to rule by what Allah (swt) revealed, it is an obligation (fard) to remove them and take away the ruling from them. Since the power of the Fasiq or Kafir rulers cannot be taken from them by an individual, it is therefore necessary that a political party exists that possesses the capability to carry out this task.

This is the reason why Islam has obliged every Muslim, man or woman, to work to re-establish the Khilafah and to engage in this work with a group who undertakes this task following the method of the Messenger of Allah (saw). It is not sufficient to just join any group, but rather it is an obligation that a Muslim investigates and seeks out that group which restricts itself solely to the Islamic rules and has the best understanding of the Shariah. It is also not acceptable that a Muslim should look for the group that is easiest to work with. Therefore, a Muslim fulfils his responsibility only when he joins a group (party) who he understands to be the closest to the truth in this matter and which will lead to the attainment of the pleasure of Allah (swt) and his Messenger (saw).

The Ulema, upon whom is the obligation to carry the message of Islam and to raise the word of Allah (swt) to the highest, should prove that they are indeed the inheritors of the Prophets (as)! It is disappointing to see some of them content to live under the shade of the corrupt rulers and their systems of kufr, while many of them remain silent when witnessing such a situation. We wish to draw their attention to the clear reality: that the people of this nation are Muslims and that they desire a government ruling only by the book of Allah (swt) and the Sunnah of his Messenger (saw). Despite this we see that the minority (who are equivalent to salt in flour) secularists who raise the slogan of separating the Deen of Allah (swt) from the State, are dominant at every level of the government. Why is it that the Ulema have accepted this? Why have the Islamic movements accepted this? And why are the sincere Muslims content with this?

O Muslims! Hizb ut-Tahrir is the only group that works for the whole of this Muslim Ummah and does not restrict itself to any particular area or group of Muslims. This is in order that it may establish the Khilafah in a suitable Muslim country or a number of Muslim countries together, and then spread it to encompass the whole Muslim World. Pakistan from the military point of view, being situated in a region possessing in abundance both natural resources and human resources, holds the ability to become such a point of initiation, which would reunite the Muslims as one nation and convey the message of Islam to the whole world.

We invite the Muslims of Pakistan to liberate this region and the other Muslim lands from the governance of kufr rule and partake in their role to return Islam back to the affairs of life. We also invite the Muslims of Pakistan to support the Members of Hizb ut-Tahrir present in the whole Muslim Ummah, who are indeed their brothers, in order that Hizb ut-Tahrir may guide the Muslim Ummah in the noble duty of re-establishing the Islamic Khilafah.

We specifically invite the people of influence and authority from amongst the Muslims of Pakistan to join Hizb ut-Tahrir and with full commitment utilise the authority and power that Allah (swt) has provided them with to re-establish the Khilafah.

``O you who believe! Answer the call of Allah and His Messenger when he calls you to that which gives you life`` [TMQ Al-Anfal: 24]

Hizb ut-Tahrir Pakistan

Ramadhan al-Mubarak 1421 Hijri



visit www.khilafah.com.pk

Barrister Amir #

I am still waiting for your response on ``Interest is Halaal`` Board regarding Hadith.

I believe in Ayah stating that the example of truth and falsehood is like metal which is put in furnace. The scum which rises is taken away by air blows and what remains is metal (or something of sort).

I can only pray in your endeavours.

But my thinking is that Prophet`s mission in Meccah and Medina was same. The only difference was that in Medina a state (or more appropriately a covenant between tribes) was formed.

And his mission was to exhort for good and prohibit evil. God may provide opportunity to some group to be in power to be more effective. But the primary purpose is what I have stated before.

For this reason the people like Edhi, or Adib Rizvi or other people who are doing their best to do good. Other parties including Islamic parties like Tablighi Jamat who are doing their work out of that compulsion are doing a good job.

How you identify good and evil and how to work in that direction is a matter of understanding of spirit of Islam.

Moreover, this criteria can judge people and party regarding their worth.

Otherwise throughout Islamic history Shabab and Sharab of rulers and their fightings were done in the name of Islam. More aptly called political expediency.

Barrister Amir #

I am still waiting for your response on ``Interest is Halaal`` Board regarding Hadith.

I believe in Ayah stating that the example of truth and falsehood is like metal which is put in furnace. The scum which rises is taken away by air blows and what remains is metal (or something of sort).

I can only pray in your endeavours.

But my thinking is that Prophet`s mission in Meccah and Medina was same. The only difference was that in Medina a state (or more appropriately a covenant between tribes) was formed.

And his mission was to exhort for good and prohibit evil. God may provide opportunity to some group to be in power to be more effective. But the primary purpose is what I have stated before.

For this reason the people like Edhi, or Adib Rizvi or other people who are doing their best to do good. Other parties including Islamic parties like Tablighi Jamat who are doing their work out of that compulsion are doing a good job.

How you identify good and evil and how to work in that direction is a matter of understanding of spirit of Islam.

Moreover, this criteria can judge people and party regarding their worth.

Otherwise throughout Islamic history Shabab and Sharab of rulers and their fightings were done in the name of Islam. More aptly called political expediency.

PUBLIC TALKS BY HIZB UT-TAHRIR PAKISTAN

Events in Islamabad:





Seminar at the Grace Conitnental Hotel, Sunday 25th Feb. 2001, Time 3:30 to 5:00







Events in Lahore:





Circle at Hakim Jegranvi Dava Khana, 5N Gulberg II, (opposite Hico Icecream Factory), Sundays after Isha





Circle at Masjid Shuhada, Mall (near Regal Chowk), Wednesdays after Maghrib





Circle at 10/110 Bridge Lane, Gulberg II (off service lane next to Sherpao Bridge), Everyday at 9 pm





Circle at Masjid Umar Farooq, Sadar Bazaar (opp. Habib Bank Main Branch), Saturdays after Maghrib







for more info visit

www.khilafah.com.pk

salaam krashid

you said

2-`` As far as Khilafa or Power is concerned Koran says that if WE (God) them power they establish

It clearly means that you are taking the job of God which HE has kept for HIMSELF.``

i agree with you that victory is in Allah`s hands, and his rahman alone.

Only Allah can help humanity and give salvation to us all.

however islam has obliged us to work to re establish Allah`s rule, and to work to re establish the khilafah. as it has obliged us to liberate ioccupied muslim lands like palestine and kashmir etc..

ot is not enough for us just to make dua and do nothing,

as Allah says in quran tmq ``allah will never change the circumstances of a people until they try and change it themselves.

rather we are obliged by sharia through numurous evidnces to work to re establish the khilafah and perform many other faraid.

as for the victory and the fruitation of these actions they are in Allah`s hands alone.

remember the battle of badr

where 300 muslims defeated 1000 tranined well armed quraish !

this victory was from Allah

similarly we found i think it was the battle of hitten when the muslims where in a majority, but lost.

this shows that victory lies in Allah`s hands alone. and as muslims we can only do the actions Allah`s commands us to do to fulfill his worship.

hence members of hizb ut tahrir do not just physically work to re establish the khilafah (through the method i highlited in my earlier posts)

but we constanlty strive to come closer to Allah by performing nafal, and recommed actions of islam

like nafal prayers, fasts, recittation of quran etc.

so that that we may please Allah and come closer to him. and inshallah when Allah considers the muslims are ready for the victory of the return of the khilafah, he will grant the muslims the rahman of obtaining its return.

hence we should work for the khilafah, but aknowledge that it will only return when Allah considers the muslims are deserving of it and Allah`s rahman.

a hadith of Mohhamed saws states that

when Mohhamed saws used to prepare for jihad, he used to prepare so excruciatingly as if Allah didnt exist, and then he used to make dua to Allah for victory, as if he had done no preparation for the battle at all.

i pray this has clarrified the matter for you brother/sister and put the matter in its correct contnext.

for more info visit

www.khilafah.com.pk

Barrister Amir#

The Ayah regarding that there should be a group among you who invites good and prohibit evil is from Surah Al-e-Imran 102-105.

Maulana Mowdudi has written to this effect.

As far as the Ayah that if WE give them power (or establish them) they establish prayer etc--- is from pilgrimage 22: 40-41.

I have full appreciation of my deficiency of knowledge, but whatever I have read makes my mind to think in a certain way.

Thanks.

dear krashid #258

please give full reference to the ayah you are quoting

further you gave an interpretation of this ayah

1 are you a qualified mujtahid (scholar) and muffasir ( qualided intrepretor of quran) to make such and interpretation.

if not then is your tafsir an opnion of a qulaifed muffasir , of so then please provide referece to the muffasir and the book in which this is stated as his tafisr.

if not then your intepretation is invlaid as it does not conform to usool ul fiqh (the foundations of islamic jurisprrudence).

as to insan being a ruler.

Allah permitted khullafa (viceroys head of islamic state) to rule the ummah on condition that they rule by islam only

as Allah says

``the rule is for none but Allah

further

Allah (swt) says: “ So judge between them by that which Allah has revealed and follow not their desires away from the truth that has come to you..” [5:48]

He also says: “ Judge between them by that which Allah has revealed and follow not their desires and beware of them lest they seduce you from some part of that which Allah has revealed to you..” [5:49]

Allah (swt) says: “ Whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, such are disbelievers” [5:44]

further the khilafah itself is an obligation in itself

mohammed saws said.

Whoso takes off his hand from allegiance to Allah (swt) will meet Him (swt) on the Day of Resurrection without having any proof for him, and whoso dies whilst there was no bay`ah (allegiance or a pledge) on his neck (to a Khaleefah), he dies a death of jahilliyah.``

in another hadith it is narrated he said that, ``If a bay`ah is taken for two Khaleefahs, kill the latter of them.`` (sahih muslim)

Muslim reported on the authority of Abu Hazim, who said: ``I accompanied Abu Hurairah for five years and heard him talking of the Prophet`s saying: The Prophets ruled over the children of Israel, whenever a Prophet died another Prophet succeeded him, but there will be no Prophet after me. There will be Khulafa`a and they will number many. They asked: What then do you order us? He said: Fulfil the bay`ah to them one after the other and give them their due. Surely Allah will ask them about what He entrusted them with.``

so brother i hope these evidences have helped clarify your understandings.

further from a rationally perspective surelly every society needs rules and regulations

and a method to enforce them so as to ensure societal probelms are resolved

anarkhy is alein concept to islam

and is a utopian concept that has never exists nor does exist today either.

i advicate that peploes should be ruled by leadership who implenets the laws of Allah on the ruling system defined by sharia.

as obliged by Allah

namely the khilafah ruling system

for more info please visit

http://www.khilafah.com.pk

your brother in islam

Ahmer.

non muslims

desist from frivalous slanderous abuse

and discuss on an intelectual basis.

jihad is an islamic obligation

muslims are not afriad of the word jihad.

both in its defensive and offensive capacity

we fight to liberate muslim lands from the clutches of those who deny the truth of Allah and impose misery upon the lands ruled by islam.

further islam as ideology spreads its way of life.

capitalism spreads through xolonialism (today through indirect colonialism). and imposes its hegemony and injustice on colonised lands.

communists instigate revolutions and physical struglles to take over lands.

islam does not hide behind lies.

as a muslim i openly declare that muslims will liberate the entire world from the clutches of non islam.

why the re establishment of the khilafah

and the carriing of this deen to the world by inviation and jihad.

when muslims performed offensive jihad. (like great muslim warriors like Mohhamed bin qasim did). we did not invade to rape and pillage the land of all its resources, like the european imperiliasts did and do.

but rather we removed the corruption in those lands by giving the people the justuce of islam.

when islam opned lands it did not force people to become muslims

but gave them the intelectual basis and enviroment to question their pagan ways and embrace the rational truth of islam.

hence millions of people just from the indian sub continent embraced islam.

further yes the prophet of islam had 9 wives.,

and other men are allowed maximun of 4.

as a muslim i am non pre judgemental of people.

i take an enligtened view of all issues.

for muslims the actions of mohhamed saws were revelation.

Allah says in quran tmq

nor does he speak of his own desire but it is wahi (revelation``

further as muslims we do not question Allah` on what is good or bad. but rather we only and rationally ahuman need only question the basis

ie does Allah really exist ?

is the quran the word of Allah.

i firmly beeive it is and can rationally prove it 100% .

therefore whatever Allah comands humans to do

and the laws and regultions Allah defines humans to obide by ARE THE TRUE NATURE AND RULES HUMANS SHOULD ADHERE TOO !

so stop going to the periphal issues

if you question islam

question the basis

and if you deny islam

deny the basis and certainly of the rational proof of islams authenticity and definitiveness !!!!

for more info of the islamic belief visit

http://www.muslim-student.com and click on belief.

for details on islamic revival visit.

http://www.khilafah.com.pk

harimau,

{{In mocking their beliefs, their culture, you display the most profound loathing for yourself and your heritage. If you don`t want to be associated with them, nobody compels you to stay a Hindu.}}

I`m a hindu & always remain a proud hindu for the rest of my life. I take what I like about my heritage & reject what I dont. I do have a loathing for many of the rituals practised in Hinduism & many of the social problems my religion is responsible for. I`m quite comfortable with the contradiction. I`m also oblivious to whether other hindus think I`m a hindu or not. Its none of their business--its between me & God.

I wont belabor my point & frankly dont care whether you agree with it or not. Please read my post #314 on the ``Earthquake hits India & Pakistan``.

Ref shrink #: 261

[Did`nt your mommy tell you you should`nt eat while you dip your behind in the holy river?!]

If you had the faintest clue about your religion, you wouldn`t have said this. The requirement is to immerse one`s body completely in the river.

The air temperature in Allahabad was 30 degrees Fahrenheit at 6 in the morning. The snowmelt in the river was at a deceptively warm 40 degrees F. People braved hypothermia (in case you have forgotten your science education in your mad rush to absorb Western values, the normal body temperature is 98.6 degrees) to bathe in the river and offer prayers.

The city slickers and foreign tourists came to gawk. The poor flocked by the millions to Prayag to affirm their faith; a faith that could not be destroyed by the most brutal savagery in the history of mankind, a faith that survived the loss of its temples and holy places, a faith that burns with a steady flame in the hearts of its followers. They do not seek to convert anybody to their religion. They have honored the religious beliefs of every tribe they have encountered. They have suffered through the imposition of alien rule, alien culture and alien religion in their midst. Yet they are the gentlest people on earth who accepted these tribulations as their fate and carried on with their lives as best as they could.

In mocking their beliefs, their culture, you display the most profound loathing for yourself and your heritage. If you don`t want to be associated with them, nobody compels you to stay a Hindu. The local churches would be glad to have you join them. (You may want to avoid some of the Baptist churches; they also believe in full-body immersion at the time of baptism.)

By the way, what is your brother called by his in-laws? Abdullah?

harimau,

#260

Hahaha---were the grapes in Allahbad too sour? Did`nt your mommy tell you you should`nt eat while you dip your behind in the holy river?!

Ref headshrinker #: 257

[this insane world has paid for my Jag.]

Did your Mommy buy it for you at the local Toys R Us? Did you get the remote control version? Do the attendants bring you fresh batteries in your padded cell?

Ref voodoo-priest #: 257

[Dont worry about my medical credentials yaar.]

No doctor I know of has the time to read Chowk or post extensively there. Are you sure you aren`t a medical technician or an orderly? Or, just part of the janitorial staff at the local nursing home?

[Thank God this world has no shortage of idiots.]

Yup. Just look in the mirror.

Your so-called patients must have drawn the short straws at their HMO because they got you.

Barrister Amir #

On Khilafah I have much reservations according to my understanding.

1- There is an Ayah in Koran which says that there must be a group among you who invites to good and prohibits the evil (Amr Bil Maruf and Nahi Anil Munkir). So that is the requirement for Muslim to do.

2- As far as Khilafa or Power is concerned Koran says that if WE (God) them power they establish

It clearly means that you are taking the job of God which HE has kept for HIMSELF.

Probably you would like to reconsider your position on establishing the Khilafa.

harimau,

{{Weren`t you the one who was ready to puke when I quoted 10th century Indian history?}}

I was ready to puke because you sounded just as bad as those Islamic thugs. You hindu thugs are just as bad; make no mistake. Bigots in any religion are the same--they stink & make me puke.

However, I must admit ,though, that I seem to laugh at youre posts lately because you seem closer to an idiot than a bigot.

Dont worry about my medical credentials yaar. I dont need any referrals from you. Thank God this world has no shortage of idiots. I wont worry about starving--ever. In fact,with the grace of God, this insane world has paid for my Jag.