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Panini #15,

Even Sankara, a Sanyasi, lived the life of a Grihasta to hold his own in a debate (whether he had the choice to avow his principles without being one, I do not know). Take it easy.

Studebaker,

Sankara lived around 800AD, for 32 years. He was not the first person to talk about Advaita Vedanta in India. His Guru`s Guru, Gaudapada, wrote about it in Karika, a treatise on Mandukya Upanishad. Before that, it was propounded in a work called Ashtavakra Samhita. This is from what I know, who knows which other works talk about it!? (What a pity they dont teach us our books/religion for Hindus!)

Speaking of Vedanta, it is one of the six orthodox schools of Hindu philosophy - Sankhya, Mimamsa, Viseshika, Nyaya and Yoga being the others. If I remember right, three of these lean towards athiesm, and one or two are agnostic in nature. The little I have read about Advaita Vedanta dislikes any restriction on thinking and questioning, and hinges on radical agnosticism (but then I was an atheist in the past life (thats a language expression, not a religious one (not that you might (choose to) understand))).

Sankara`s emphasis was on Atma(one`s soul) and Paramatma(you may call it God) being one - it doesnt talk about God bestowing that aspect on an individual at His or Her will...

Vedanta came after the Vedas as a tailpiece(?) to them. Any idea when the Vedas where first written?

Question - when exactly did Muslims arrive on the Malabar coast and what philosophy/books did they bring with them at the time? Thanks.

Panini #15,

Even Sankara, a Sanyasi, lived the life of a Grihasta to hold his own in a debate (whether he had the choice to avow his arguments without being one, I do not know). Take it easy.

Studebaker,

Sankara lived around 800AD, for 32 years. He was not the first person to talk about Advaita Vedanta in India. His Guru`s Guru, Gaudapada, wrote about it in Karika, a treatise on Mandukya Upanishad. Before that, it was propounded in a work called Ashtavakra Samhita. This is from what I know, who knows which other works talk about it!? (What a pity they dont teach us our books/religion for Hindus!)

Speaking of Vedanta, it is one of the six orthodox schools of Hindu philosophy - Sankhya, Mimamsa, Viseshika, Nyaya and Yoga being the others. If I remember right, three of these lean towards athiesm, and one or two are agnostic in nature. The little I have read about Advaita Vedanta dislikes any restriction on thinking and questioning, and hinges on radical agnosticism (but then I was an atheist in the past life (thats a language expression, not a religious one (not that you might (choose to) understand))).

Sankara`s emphasis was on Atma(one`s soul) and Paramatma(you may call it God) being one - it doesnt talk about God bestowing that aspect on an individual at His or Her will...

Vedanta came after the Vedas as a tailpiece(?) to them. Any idea when the Vedas where first written?

Question - when exactly did Muslims arrive on the Malabar coast and what philosophy/books did they bring with them at the time? Thanks.

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Sadna # 24

(Recognize that sometimes you are the importuned passenger, sometimes the leaky boat, sometimes you are the travelling and often you are the creek)

music..lovely

sadna, re #24

Awesome! Just a-w-e-s-o-m-e!

rgds,

PM

harimau #14:

That was humourous!

Dvaita: Soul and Brahman are two different things).

Advaita: No they are the same.

Dvaita and Advaita are two opposing philosophies - no way Islam could have both, Studebaker! They also show independence of thought.

Serious question - are there any Muslim philosophers (pardon my ignorance). If so, what are their philosophies? Please enlighten.

Sadna (24)

Hi ... I just had to borrow your last para ... and pop into the Sage`s interact ...

... it was just too good to resist ...

cheers

dL

For author only.

Twenty years later in a University town, Dalgliesh sat at a bar, hair radiating in all directions, glaring maniacally at a beer.

Suddenly, a car pulled up, spouting smoke. A heavy bag came flying out of the window, went Thwack against Dalgliesh`s head, flattening his hair, knocking him down. Someone who sounded like either his auto mechanic, his wife or his research student shouted ``You self-absorbed self-satisfied unmentionable, you!`` and drove off.

Nearby patrons, puzzled, helped Dagliesh up, straightened his hair, looked into the bag. And were surprised to see, 52 research papers on black holes, 5 patents on vending machines all written by Dalgliesh, some expired plane tickets, a wedding invitation, some dirty laundry and a hard plaque with the Nobel citation which really hurt when it hit.

And Lo! says Shankara, eyes bulging, verily there is no escaping Ultimate Self Realization or clueing-in during your cosmic journey. Recognize that sometimes you are the importuned passenger, sometimes the leaky boat, sometimes you are the travelling and often you are the creek...

Panini = the most ancient of Sanskrit grammarians. Not Hindu, not Moslem, not Indian, not Pakistani.

As for the article itself,I think, fine Sir, that I know now who purloined all my Kurt Vonnegut Jr.s` . . . right?

binifer #21

[...i sense a certain self righteousness and contempt in your post(s) temporal sahab..sad for there are few talented people like u around...]

...first may I?... a simple plain t or temporal should suffice...have a genetic impediment that makes any ‘ex-tension’ or ‘pre-tension’ a tad on the uncomfortable side:)

...are you comments limited to #20 and #3 here?...if so...i apologise for the wrong impression they may have created in your mind...if anything...and others have shared this with me too...i do have an odd sense of humour...
...therefore you can safely eliminate ‘certain’ self righteousness and contempt from these posts...

...and now, yes, some digressions:)...

...have loads of weaknesses and shortcomings which make me singularly unsuitable for any expressions of ‘self-righteousness’ or moral outrage...speaking of which (weaknesses)...one of them is contempt... utter and total contempt ...ironically bordering on hatred...for those who knowingly or unknowingly overwhelm the silent majority...here, there and everywhere... with their jingoistic and fundamental hatred...a minor manifestation of which is also witnessed on most other boards here...yes...have total contempt for intoleration...kya karaiN...majboor haiN...

(am not sure)

lve or rgds?

t

i sense a certain self righteousness and contempt in your post(s) temporal sahab..sad for there are few talented people like u around

Panini #15:

You wrote, “I hereby resign a position I never held.”

Endorsing Shirin Ahmed, Hana, binifer, and Purple you are herby re-appointed to that position. Please do that position proud.

(Obviously you spend too much time by that window! Here a helpful hint. If someone writes about the Bermuda Triangle, or the pollution in great lakes, or even a recipe for mango chutney here, sooner or later ‘they’ are bound to appear. What can one do? Simple, what we do in real life….ignore and move on.)

rgds,

t

oye ... all religion bashers ...

please take your bashing to the appropriate boards and leave those of us who can relish pannini in all its fresh glory to our gluttonous pleasures ...

hey pannini ... these mad people are beneath contempt ... don`t deprive the few for the many !!!

;p

Reply # paninininin

another one bites the dust...

Hey panini plz dont go...man we want more!!

`yeh dil mange more`

-Hana

Dear Panini,

I face the same problem at this site ,so i can understand fully how you feel.

Take care ,and God Bless.Hope you will try to stick around. The board definately needs people like you !!

sa :)