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What I Want Pakistan’s CEO To Do

Veeresh Malik June 20, 2001

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#175 Posted by AAmir on July 8, 2001 4:56:47 am
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#174 Posted by aicha on July 8, 2001 2:37:34 am
Dear sadna - you are most welcome - but pls no high expectations and I hope you will like it : )

Aamir - biryani and vegetarian - why??

Say this board reminds me of kitchen table post-mortem sessions we have at home : )

aicha



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#173 Posted by sadna on July 7, 2001 2:41:04 pm
harimau #177
I have a copy of `The Man-eating Leopard of Rudraprayag` too, an illustrated one from the Oxford University Press, India

btw, `My India` by Corbett is a great book too.
And thanks to aicha, I had not heard of Anderson, I will look him up :)

Some of Kipling`s Jungle Book stories are great too. There is one unforgettable story about a great white ``mugger`` in the Ganges.

While searching for its name(The Undertakers) I found the whole thing on the Web!

http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/
prose/SecondJungleBook/undertakers.html


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#172 Posted by harimau on July 7, 2001 6:53:33 am
Ref bong_dongs #: 174

[If you enjoy Anderson you must read Jim Corbett (One I particularly remember is ``the man eating leopard of Rudraprayag``)]

I thought the book was ``The Man-eaters of Kumaon``.

What next? ``The Man-eating Snow Leopard of Garhwal``?



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#171 Posted by aicha on July 5, 2001 8:26:37 pm
bong-dongs - yes he based his stories mostly in and around Mysore/Ooty/Tumkur (?) areas and lived in Sreerangpatan i think before moving to Bangalore. Am from S India also : ) Thanks for the Corbett refr - I will def get that book and read it.

Stuka - ``The cup of joy overfloweth ..... ``

``no comment`` - two very useful words when it comes to steering clear away from trouble : ) HTere is no leeway for loose talk here.

Pizza and beer - my commiserations!!!

kucchi biryani - is a true Hyderabadi dish. And very easy to make from what i learnt yesterday. It is quite bland compared to other types of biryanis but that is because the spicy taste comes from the other accompanying dishes - bagaree baingan and mirch ka saalan etc etc. I forget about the term kucchi - but I think it is because the meat is raw when you start cooking. velly good!! And topped off with supari - awesome. I dont like supari but the meal wouldnt have been complete w/o it.

fireworks - now taht is debatable - with all the fireworks in real life who has teh energy to appreciate the real thing : ) But see the adv Boston has over any other city is/are (??) the idyllic banks along the river. Spread a blanket and jsut relax.

And a food summit - capital idea !

aicha



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#170 Posted by bong_dongs on July 5, 2001 12:35:09 pm
Ref aicha

``- but anytime I need to revisit home I just pick up one of Andersons books``

Are you from southern India? If I recall correctly most of his stories are based in what today would be Karnataka (princely state of Mysore?)

If you enjoy Anderson you must read Jim Corbett (One I particularly remember is ``the man eating leopard of Rudraprayag``)



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#169 Posted by stuka on July 5, 2001 12:35:09 pm
Aicha, AAmir

The cup of joy overfloweth. This looks like it could be the start of a beautiful friendship??? A belated 4th to you guys. Didn`t log on yesterday. Was too busy gorging on Pizza and beer and then sat on the bank of the Charles river, watching the best firework show in the country (not to boast or anything, but Boston does have the best 4th of July ;))

Aicha, at the risk of sounding ignorant, what is kuchi biryani?? I have heard the term before, but am not sure what it is. How`z it different from regular biryani?? Its a Hyderabadi dish right??

Thinking about food ...mmm....thats what India and Pakistan should have a summit on...wah wah...what an idea even if I do say so myself



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#168 Posted by aicha on July 5, 2001 11:06:26 am
``Aicha,Acha,ab dosti !``

Mr Aamir - I would like that very much!!

Am right here in the us also - and celebrated fourth with kucchhi biryani and some wonderful conv and it was the best ever!! Hope yours was good too.

aicha



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#167 Posted by aicha on July 5, 2001 11:06:26 am
``aaah finally I`ve found another person who has read him. I think he is one of the most underrated writers (perpetually under Jim Corbetts shadows``

Does that qualify for soulmat`ism?? just kidding!! : ) my sentiments exactly. I havent had the chance to read any of Corbetts work - but anytime I need to revisit home I just pick up one of Andersons books. Have you read all of them - the one where he traces out how a maneater actually comes into being is one of the saddest I have ever read. It is very sad that just a few decades ago life was so simple and uncomplicated and now ....

aicha



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#166 Posted by Zahra on July 5, 2001 12:01:08 am
http://www.timesofindia.com/today/27nbrs9.htm

LAHORE: Standing at the entrance of the Lahore fort, the seat of imperial Mughal power, is white-haired Mohammed Akram, clad in a spotless white kurta pyjama. Akram sells water to the long stream of visitors who trundle in and out of the fort.

What is his reaction to the expected talks to be held between President Musharraf and Prime Minister Vajpayee ?

Akram does not mince words when he says, ``We poor people are fed up with wars. For us Kashmir is a non-issue. We are interested in providing food and education to our children -for me, that is the essence of good governance. When I cannot fill my own stomach, what do I care about a state (Kashmir) situated hundreds of miles away?``

The fort was built by Emperor Jehangir in the 16th century and is located in the heart of the old city. One of the two key roads leading away from it has been named Taj Mahal street. It has a melange of shops comprising dhabas, scooter workshops, grocery shops and the ubiquitous panwallahs.

Initially hesitant to talk, scooter mechanic Mohammed Yusuf is the first to break the ice. He reiterates Akram`s stance. ``The government has made a fool of us over Kashmir for too long. I am earning Rs 200 per day. This morning I bought ma ki dal at Rs 60 per kilo. It will last me one day. Tell me what am I expected to feed my four children? The basic issues in Pakistan are rising prices and unemployment. The Musharraf-Vajpayee dialogue should focus on providing jobs to the poor across the subcontinent. Only then will there be lasting peace.``

I A Raman, director of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, is not surprised at their views. ``The vast, silent majority of Pakistanis, including the conscious citizenry, are looking forward to any agreement that will relieve them of the burden of paying for this massive military build-up. They will be happy with any reasonable way of disentangling themselves from this situation,`` Rehman says.

This is not to mean that the man-on-the-street is not concerned of or knowledgeable about Kashmir. They know the Kashmir problem inside out and believe that neither of the two leaders should allow themselves to be bogged down by any one issue. Mohammad Usman, running a major leather emporium on the Mall Road says, ``Both countries can help each other tremendously in areas of trade and commerce. The leaders need to talk more about trade and less about politics. This summit should not be one more excuse for shopping and drinking endless rounds of tea.``

An elderly woman who walked into the shop immediately joined the discussion. The Habib Bank has recently laid off 12,000 workers giving them Rs 5 lakhs as compensation. Many other banks and organizations are also laying off people. ``If trade improves between the two countries, people will get more work. Musharraf can play a catalytic role in stepping up trade,`` says Fatima Bai, grandmother of four.

Advocate and intellectual Raza Kasim feels it is unfortunate that India has not succeeded in burying the Kashmir issue. ``Pakistan must also face the consequence of its failure to disentangle its own agenda from the Kashmir issue. Demilitarization of Kashmir will destroy the entire basis of the two nation theory,`` Kasim maintains.

Muslim fundamentalists believe otherwise. ``The militant clerics and the ideologues like the Majlis Karkunan and the Nazaria Pakistan group do not want a settlement because that will take away from their raison d`etre,`` Raman says.

A standpoint often reflected in the labyrinths of the city. Mohammad Faix, who runs a photo studio in the old city, says, ``A plebiscite must be held in Kashmir and Kashmiris must get azaadi.``


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#165 Posted by bong_dongs on July 4, 2001 11:50:47 pm
Ref aicha - Kenneth Anderson:

aaah finally I`ve found another person who has read him. I think he is one of the most underrated writers (perpetually under Jim Corbetts shadow)



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#164 Posted by AAmir on July 4, 2001 11:50:47 pm
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#163 Posted by aicha on July 3, 2001 2:32:16 pm
Stuka - thankyou for breaking the ice!! Here I was itching to jump back in but couldnt with a sooty face. I find the aftermath harder to take tahn the dishing out-tauba. Animosity - tauba again just minor disagreements!!

Aamir - Alls well that ends well - IS IT?? Group hug - maybe we can pass! Pls accept this olive branch. And pls participate. And looking at the other boards my thankyous also for being quite a gentleman.

On Enid Blyton - what can I say? Didnt know her writings were based on Cornwall. But must say I was dissappointed with scones and cream (roti&fresh cream are much better i think). Later was intr to another author - i forget this name. His stories were on S England Rye/Shropshire/Winchester - if anone remembers details pls let me know too.

anarayan - you`ve read one - my turn to say che che : )

I dont know if any of you are wildlife enthusiasts (i am not a fanatic either) but havce you read Kenneth Anderson.

Take care everyone !



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#162 Posted by AAmir on July 3, 2001 2:32:16 pm
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#161 Posted by stuka on July 3, 2001 10:54:44 am
Aicha , AAmir

Awww Looks like its time for a group hug. I`m sorry I didn`t know about any past animosity between you guys, and therefore thought that AAmir just came out of no where. But all`s well that ends well. Getting back to childhood memories, c`mon nobody even responded to my Enid Blyton reference :( Anyone read em??

ANarayan:

So I`m guessing you majored in Aeronautical Engineering? Did you go to Purdue by any chance.

Farzana:

Always a pleasure to hear from you. No finality was intended :) Yaar kya kahen, I`ve been away from India since 1995, and my first trip back was Nov 1999. A long gap, and I thought a lot had changed in Delhi, but then I go to the DGC, step into the cloakroom, and the good old attendant remembered me right away. It was amazing, and I felt the DGC was one constant I could on. But I know and you know that institutions do decline. The DG C is no different, though its worth a fight.

You also mentioned that you were failing to be provocative?? Please don`t understimate yourself;) I do have an idea for a subject that you could write on. Have you seen the movie ``Gadar``. I haven`t seen it yet but I`ve read about the controversy surrounding it. You think you could do a review and write about the controversy ie justified or not, and if so to what extent? Now before you fly off the handle (not saying that you will, but IF you do), consider this:

Like I said before, I have disagreed with your opinions but have never doubted your integrity. You don`t have a political agenda, and will therefore write from the heart. Also, as has been previously experienced by the Chowkidars, you are not afraid to speak your mind. So it would be something to look forward too.

Now if I have unwittingly offended you, and you would like to sound off at me, please feel free to do so. On the other hand, you`re rather good at doing that too, so I would appreciate it if you sound off at me in private. My email address is pvohra@yahoo.com

Later

Stuka



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#160 Posted by aicha on July 2, 2001 10:32:55 pm
Aamir - hmmmm what goes around really comes back around. Ok htat wasnt fun but I guess we had to get it out. Anything more pls say it right now - i hate for you to harbor illwill. I get a bit antagonistic when I think someone is deliberately out to annoy me. I am willing to call it quits if you are - if not then we can still continue. But for future pls let me know if&when I have hurt your precious feelings : ) - and I will refrain from doing so as simple as taht.

aicha



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