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Farzana Versey January 6, 2004
#178 Posted by harimau on January 27, 2004 11:02:53 pm
Ref nb #177
[Harimau,
On another board, I started asking your old mate soysauce what the names you call him meant. He didn`t like it much. Translations would be useful!]
Soysauce is so ashamed of his origins that he has chosen to call himself by an Oriental sauce. I generally refer to him as Inji-kari-kuzhambu (Ginger Goat Curry Sauce), Karuvattu-Kuzhambu (Dried Fish-Curry Sauce) or Meen-kuzhambu (Fish Curry Sauce), these being the food items he grew up with and certainly not soy sauce.
I also refer to him as Maasanamuthu (Smashaan Moti - Pearl of the Graveyard), Sudalaikkannu, etc. These are again typical names from Tamil Nadu which of course he and his ilk have given up, instead calling themselves Tamil Arasan (Tamil King), Tamil Mani (Tamil Jewel), Anbarasan (Love King), etc., if they don`t pick names of long-dead kings like Kulamutrathuthunjiya Killivalavan or Nedunchezhiyan. Of these names, the funniest is Tamil Kudimagan which can be variously translated as Tamil Citizen, Tamil Drunkard or Tamil Chu Ti Ah -- I am NOT kidding you!
The real trouble with all these guys is that they are total fakes. They are at the most 3rd generation immigrants from Andhra or Karnataka who speak broken Telugu or Kannada at home but have no problem calling themselves Tamil King so that they can get preferential admission to professional schools. I mock them by saying that the only names left at this point are Tamil Ma-ki-galli, Tamil Behn-ki-galli, Tamil Fraud, Tamil Cheat, etc.
The truth of the matter is that this a$$-kisser appears so REASONABLE to the Mullah Brigade on Chowk that they take his side. What they don`t understand is that this guy is an out-and-out opportunist and if at all Pakistan is justified because of the threat of majoritarianism, the true face of majoritarianism is that of this idiot and people like him.
[As I said to him, just a few interactions with him made me realise that the slanging matches that go on aren`t just your fault as people often make out!]
Thanks. But all it takes is a careful reading of this idiot`s posts and refusal to reply to points raised by others to understand the truth of the matter. True to his two-faced shamelessness, he proclaims that he is an atheist but doesn`t tell us if Allah is also a fraud... for fear that the Mullah Brigade will turn on him!
[The drama about the Haj subsidy versus the Kailash yatra made some things clear though-some people went on ranting even when it was clear that they had nothing to back them up. It is this attitude that upsets me, and many others, why should the standards be so different? I still think majority fundamentalism is inherently more dangerous than minority fundamentalism because of the power dynamics, but we have a situation where Hindus asking for a fair go are treated as fundamentalists. Unfortunately, people like Gujjubania don`t make it any easier for the rest of us-he neds to hit his books with a vengeance NOW.]
I agree with you. The real trouble is that so many lies are spread by the newspapers and newsmagazines in the name of secularism that people (Hindus) are tired of secularism. The day we eliminate the pseudo-secularists` propaganda would be a golden day in India`s history. No matter what people say about the BJP, the fact is India is better today than 5 years ago. We couldn`t say that about the Congress misrule of some 35 years.
[Harimau,
On another board, I started asking your old mate soysauce what the names you call him meant. He didn`t like it much. Translations would be useful!]
Soysauce is so ashamed of his origins that he has chosen to call himself by an Oriental sauce. I generally refer to him as Inji-kari-kuzhambu (Ginger Goat Curry Sauce), Karuvattu-Kuzhambu (Dried Fish-Curry Sauce) or Meen-kuzhambu (Fish Curry Sauce), these being the food items he grew up with and certainly not soy sauce.
I also refer to him as Maasanamuthu (Smashaan Moti - Pearl of the Graveyard), Sudalaikkannu, etc. These are again typical names from Tamil Nadu which of course he and his ilk have given up, instead calling themselves Tamil Arasan (Tamil King), Tamil Mani (Tamil Jewel), Anbarasan (Love King), etc., if they don`t pick names of long-dead kings like Kulamutrathuthunjiya Killivalavan or Nedunchezhiyan. Of these names, the funniest is Tamil Kudimagan which can be variously translated as Tamil Citizen, Tamil Drunkard or Tamil Chu Ti Ah -- I am NOT kidding you!
The real trouble with all these guys is that they are total fakes. They are at the most 3rd generation immigrants from Andhra or Karnataka who speak broken Telugu or Kannada at home but have no problem calling themselves Tamil King so that they can get preferential admission to professional schools. I mock them by saying that the only names left at this point are Tamil Ma-ki-galli, Tamil Behn-ki-galli, Tamil Fraud, Tamil Cheat, etc.
The truth of the matter is that this a$$-kisser appears so REASONABLE to the Mullah Brigade on Chowk that they take his side. What they don`t understand is that this guy is an out-and-out opportunist and if at all Pakistan is justified because of the threat of majoritarianism, the true face of majoritarianism is that of this idiot and people like him.
[As I said to him, just a few interactions with him made me realise that the slanging matches that go on aren`t just your fault as people often make out!]
Thanks. But all it takes is a careful reading of this idiot`s posts and refusal to reply to points raised by others to understand the truth of the matter. True to his two-faced shamelessness, he proclaims that he is an atheist but doesn`t tell us if Allah is also a fraud... for fear that the Mullah Brigade will turn on him!
[The drama about the Haj subsidy versus the Kailash yatra made some things clear though-some people went on ranting even when it was clear that they had nothing to back them up. It is this attitude that upsets me, and many others, why should the standards be so different? I still think majority fundamentalism is inherently more dangerous than minority fundamentalism because of the power dynamics, but we have a situation where Hindus asking for a fair go are treated as fundamentalists. Unfortunately, people like Gujjubania don`t make it any easier for the rest of us-he neds to hit his books with a vengeance NOW.]
I agree with you. The real trouble is that so many lies are spread by the newspapers and newsmagazines in the name of secularism that people (Hindus) are tired of secularism. The day we eliminate the pseudo-secularists` propaganda would be a golden day in India`s history. No matter what people say about the BJP, the fact is India is better today than 5 years ago. We couldn`t say that about the Congress misrule of some 35 years.
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#177 Posted by nb on January 17, 2004 8:38:27 am
Hey Farzana,
Sorry for the late intrusion, I have a non-functioning computer. I just wanted to say that perhaps the point about Irfan Pathan is not that the BCCI has done him a great favour. Perhaps it is that if discrimination against Muslims was that rife, he wouldn`t have stood a chance. What I think is more important is that Irfan has found it in his heart to put the events of the riots at least temporarily behind him and give everything for India. It was a joy to see him and Parthiv Patel exchange high-fives. This is what makes me think India will overcome.
Harimau,
On another board, I started asking your old mate soysauce what the names you call him meant. He didn`t like it much. Translations would be useful! As I said to him, just a few interactions with him made me realise that the slanging matches that go on aren`t just your fault as people often make out! The drama about the Haj subsidy versus the Kailash yatra made some things clear though-some people went on ranting even when it was clear that they had nothing to back them up. It is this attitude that upsets me, and many others, why should the standards be so different? I still think majority fundamentalism is inherently more dangerous than minority fundamentalism because of the power dynamics, but we have a situation where Hindus asking for a fair go are treated as fundamentalists. Unfortunately, people like Gujjubania don`t make it any easier for the rest of us-he neds to hit his books with a vengeance NOW.
Sorry for the late intrusion, I have a non-functioning computer. I just wanted to say that perhaps the point about Irfan Pathan is not that the BCCI has done him a great favour. Perhaps it is that if discrimination against Muslims was that rife, he wouldn`t have stood a chance. What I think is more important is that Irfan has found it in his heart to put the events of the riots at least temporarily behind him and give everything for India. It was a joy to see him and Parthiv Patel exchange high-fives. This is what makes me think India will overcome.
Harimau,
On another board, I started asking your old mate soysauce what the names you call him meant. He didn`t like it much. Translations would be useful! As I said to him, just a few interactions with him made me realise that the slanging matches that go on aren`t just your fault as people often make out! The drama about the Haj subsidy versus the Kailash yatra made some things clear though-some people went on ranting even when it was clear that they had nothing to back them up. It is this attitude that upsets me, and many others, why should the standards be so different? I still think majority fundamentalism is inherently more dangerous than minority fundamentalism because of the power dynamics, but we have a situation where Hindus asking for a fair go are treated as fundamentalists. Unfortunately, people like Gujjubania don`t make it any easier for the rest of us-he neds to hit his books with a vengeance NOW.
#176 Posted by mumbaikar on January 16, 2004 8:16:24 am
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#175 Posted by mumbaikar on January 15, 2004 7:02:43 am
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#174 Posted by harimau on January 14, 2004 7:27:17 am
Ref Sangilikkaruppan #160
[Don`t you wish he`d at least provide a translation? His vocabulary has ranged from motherf***** to names of various non-veg dishes.]
Well, as I tirelessly point out, we are waiting for YOUR translation of the song ``Ottakattha kattikko``. As to the ma-ki-galli, remember that Tamil Mo***** is about the only name you guys haven`t adopted in your zeal to prove your pride in Tamil heritage and I thought you should take it as your own name!
[You can date him from his use of language. He`s from the last generation being probably at least 50 years old.]
Don`t worry about the specifics of the language. This IS the language of folks like you. I have heard a guy say in Tamil, ``What if I don`t get an H1 visa? I care for it as much as I care about losing my hair (mayirae pochchu?)?`` in a restaurant in Fremont, California loud enough for me to hear. For those of you not versed in the street lingo of Tamil Nadu, the reference to hair here is not to the hair on one`s head about which of course one cares very much!
By the way, Mangal Pande when he was about to be hanged called on his fellow Sepoys to kill the ``behnc*dh`` British. Anyone who uses behn ki galli today is NOT 160 years old!
[Harimau chasing me here is like my dog who likes to chase cars. It`s thrilling to my dog and he feels he really chased the car away whereas to the car all this barking and chasing makes no difference. Someday I hope Harimau will really grow up.]
So, when do you plan to tell simpletons like Sridhar (your word for him, remember?) if you think Allah and Jehovah are figments of the imagination too? Or do you recognize that saying that will cut the support you get from the Pak mullah brigade on the Chowk and so are willing to be atheist only with regard to Hindu gods?
How about Karuppannasamy, Ayyanar, Ellaiamman, Mariamma and Madurai Veeran? Would you be willing to tell your villagers that they are also non-existent? But I must caution you, these are NOT brahminical gods but gods created by people of your own caste. So watch what you say!
[Don`t you wish he`d at least provide a translation? His vocabulary has ranged from motherf***** to names of various non-veg dishes.]
Well, as I tirelessly point out, we are waiting for YOUR translation of the song ``Ottakattha kattikko``. As to the ma-ki-galli, remember that Tamil Mo***** is about the only name you guys haven`t adopted in your zeal to prove your pride in Tamil heritage and I thought you should take it as your own name!
[You can date him from his use of language. He`s from the last generation being probably at least 50 years old.]
Don`t worry about the specifics of the language. This IS the language of folks like you. I have heard a guy say in Tamil, ``What if I don`t get an H1 visa? I care for it as much as I care about losing my hair (mayirae pochchu?)?`` in a restaurant in Fremont, California loud enough for me to hear. For those of you not versed in the street lingo of Tamil Nadu, the reference to hair here is not to the hair on one`s head about which of course one cares very much!
By the way, Mangal Pande when he was about to be hanged called on his fellow Sepoys to kill the ``behnc*dh`` British. Anyone who uses behn ki galli today is NOT 160 years old!
[Harimau chasing me here is like my dog who likes to chase cars. It`s thrilling to my dog and he feels he really chased the car away whereas to the car all this barking and chasing makes no difference. Someday I hope Harimau will really grow up.]
So, when do you plan to tell simpletons like Sridhar (your word for him, remember?) if you think Allah and Jehovah are figments of the imagination too? Or do you recognize that saying that will cut the support you get from the Pak mullah brigade on the Chowk and so are willing to be atheist only with regard to Hindu gods?
How about Karuppannasamy, Ayyanar, Ellaiamman, Mariamma and Madurai Veeran? Would you be willing to tell your villagers that they are also non-existent? But I must caution you, these are NOT brahminical gods but gods created by people of your own caste. So watch what you say!
#173 Posted by dost_mittar on January 13, 2004 12:01:00 pm
stuka, harimou:
Is calling each other a Nehruvian an insult these days?:-)
Is calling each other a Nehruvian an insult these days?:-)
#172 Posted by sadna on January 13, 2004 11:11:39 am
MaheshG2 #169, mohar11
Actually Mr Jinnah disapproved of HIS daughter`s marriage to a Parsi and broke off relations with her at the time. But of course that was natural in a Muslim parent whose child married a nonMuslim, didnot make him a communalist.
Rather simplemindedly, you are missing the sad unpalateable truth about Ms Farzana. Any nonMuslim who doesnot bend over backwards to placate Muslims is a communalist. By this definition, no Muslim can ever be communalist, whatever he or she does/says. Get it?
``When I speak up against the Pope, the Hindus don’t have any major problems. ``
By the above definition, your religion is more relevant on any subject than what you are saying about that subject. Hence your disagreement with her on any subject will always be cast as a communal Hindu thing. So you have to either agree with her always or change your religion if you want to really discuss stuff.
Actually Mr Jinnah disapproved of HIS daughter`s marriage to a Parsi and broke off relations with her at the time. But of course that was natural in a Muslim parent whose child married a nonMuslim, didnot make him a communalist.
Rather simplemindedly, you are missing the sad unpalateable truth about Ms Farzana. Any nonMuslim who doesnot bend over backwards to placate Muslims is a communalist. By this definition, no Muslim can ever be communalist, whatever he or she does/says. Get it?
``When I speak up against the Pope, the Hindus don’t have any major problems. ``
By the above definition, your religion is more relevant on any subject than what you are saying about that subject. Hence your disagreement with her on any subject will always be cast as a communal Hindu thing. So you have to either agree with her always or change your religion if you want to really discuss stuff.
#171 Posted by arjun_m on January 13, 2004 9:08:48 am
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#170 Posted by MaheshG2 on January 13, 2004 7:13:44 am
Then some of you did not agree, so I gave the context of another leader, Nehru, again using my own column to illustrate my opinion.
How does trashing Nehru uphold your position of defending Jinnah?
I do not ask anyone to toe my line of thinking; this is how I feel, that is all. If it is seen as a restricted vision then the responses are equally, if not more, restricted. When I speak up against the Pope, the Hindus don’t have any major problems. Why is that so? And Mahesh, anyone who has read the article on this board cannot accuse me of what you are doing. Here is an example of ‘objectivity’. Tough to digest?
Have you criticized the pope? Have you ever criticized Jinnah? Then what objectivity are you talking about? You obviously are brushing aside Jinnah`s mistakes as anamolies yet Nehru`s are his defining points. Nehru is a communalist because he was unhappy with his daughter`s marriage to a parsi. Jinnah is a secularist inspite of calling for direct action day which resulted in the death of millions of Hindus and Muslims because he uttered some inanities about Hindu/Muslim brotherhood at some point in his life. The only consistency I see in your articles is ``Let`s see what the majority of Indians` viewpoint is. Hmm. Let`s trash that viewpoint. ``
Your sum total of arguments.
A did x in small doses and y in large amounts. ``x`` is communalist in nature and that`s why A is communalist.
B did x in large amounts and x in small doses. ``y`` is secularist in nature and that`s B is secularist.
Regarding your response to Mohar11
Mohar`s question was how can you respect anybody if you don`t agree with his principles? Why deflect his question by bringing in Vajpayee.
And as a sidenote to your Vajpayee question:
Vajpayee has very good principles. He is a stanch secularist and progressionist. He is only being an opportunist when he is defending Modi.
How does trashing Nehru uphold your position of defending Jinnah?
I do not ask anyone to toe my line of thinking; this is how I feel, that is all. If it is seen as a restricted vision then the responses are equally, if not more, restricted. When I speak up against the Pope, the Hindus don’t have any major problems. Why is that so? And Mahesh, anyone who has read the article on this board cannot accuse me of what you are doing. Here is an example of ‘objectivity’. Tough to digest?
Have you criticized the pope? Have you ever criticized Jinnah? Then what objectivity are you talking about? You obviously are brushing aside Jinnah`s mistakes as anamolies yet Nehru`s are his defining points. Nehru is a communalist because he was unhappy with his daughter`s marriage to a parsi. Jinnah is a secularist inspite of calling for direct action day which resulted in the death of millions of Hindus and Muslims because he uttered some inanities about Hindu/Muslim brotherhood at some point in his life. The only consistency I see in your articles is ``Let`s see what the majority of Indians` viewpoint is. Hmm. Let`s trash that viewpoint. ``
Your sum total of arguments.
A did x in small doses and y in large amounts. ``x`` is communalist in nature and that`s why A is communalist.
B did x in large amounts and x in small doses. ``y`` is secularist in nature and that`s B is secularist.
Regarding your response to Mohar11
Mohar`s question was how can you respect anybody if you don`t agree with his principles? Why deflect his question by bringing in Vajpayee.
And as a sidenote to your Vajpayee question:
Vajpayee has very good principles. He is a stanch secularist and progressionist. He is only being an opportunist when he is defending Modi.
#169 Posted by mohar11 on January 13, 2004 7:13:44 am
#165 by FarzanaVersey
//..I provide you with the following statements made by the prime minister of India…do tell me what are the principles he agrees with and what he follows? This would be a good benchmark...//
Who knows what principles Vajpayee follows! He said those awful things you quoted. So he is a bad person with very bad ideas. But then he is not in the same stature as Jinnah, is he? He is just a dirty politician trying to get votes. We are talking about Jinnah here - remember!!
I think - once again - you are twisting the argument. We are not debating who follows>/i> what principle. The original point was that why do you admire Jinnah if you do NOT agree with his principles?
//..I provide you with the following statements made by the prime minister of India…do tell me what are the principles he agrees with and what he follows? This would be a good benchmark...//
Who knows what principles Vajpayee follows! He said those awful things you quoted. So he is a bad person with very bad ideas. But then he is not in the same stature as Jinnah, is he? He is just a dirty politician trying to get votes. We are talking about Jinnah here - remember!!
I think - once again - you are twisting the argument. We are not debating who follows>/i> what principle. The original point was that why do you admire Jinnah if you do NOT agree with his principles?
#168 Posted by gujjubania on January 13, 2004 6:04:49 am
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#167 Posted by ballukhan on January 13, 2004 6:04:49 am
Anti-Christian Orgs and Persons in India & Bombay
http://www.geocities.com/orthopapism/antichristian.html
somebody likes FV!!
#166 Posted by ballukhan on January 13, 2004 1:37:37 am
Hon!! Can you turn off your Saas Bhi Kabhi (...or whatever Mumbaiya serial) please!
#165 Posted by FarzanaVersey on January 13, 2004 12:16:00 am
This looks like some despotic regime here on Chowk…”Criticise Jinnah, don’t criticise Nehru, do this, do that…”. Every person has the right to express their opinions. Someone mentioned Jinnah here in one of their responses, I said I admired him…I was asked why, so I posted one of my columns (and not some cut-paste from another writer to justify my views. Then some of you did not agree, so I gave the context of another leader, Nehru, again using my own column to illustrate my opinion.
I do not ask anyone to toe my line of thinking; this is how I feel, that is all. If it is seen as a restricted vision then the responses are equally, if not more, restricted. When I speak up against the Pope, the Hindus don’t have any major problems. Why is that so? And Mahesh, anyone who has read the article on this board cannot accuse me of what you are doing. Here is an example of ‘objectivity’. Tough to digest?
#150 by mohar11:
[People admire Gandhi because they agree with his principle of non-violence...... Following that principle is a whole different issue - we are not even going there. Similarly, when people say they admire Jinnah, it indicates that they agree with his principles. Otherwise it doesn`t make sense.]
I provide you with the following statements made by the prime minister of India…do tell me what are the principles he agrees with and what he follows? This would be a good benchmark.
“I am his (Modi’s) advocate and it is my duty the plead his case.”
“What happened in Gujarat? If the attack on the Sabarmati had not happened, then what happened later (communal violence) would not have happened.”
“Muslims the world over do not want to mingle with other communities. They simply do not want to live in peace. The countries where there are Muslim populations live in perpetual fear of Islamic militancy.”
The views of lesser mortals have far less impact than those of our leaders. Yet, you will not utter a word against them.
[Following his principles comes next ... and by god.... that would be a big can of worms. We all hope nobody ever follows his principles again.]
From this article itself: “The welfare of all citizens in a democracy rests on the government in power. The last time a party was formed for the welfare of a community, we had another country.”
#149 by harimau:
War booty? And you say you respect women and would not treat me as a commodity…
I had not read the Evelyn Waugh statement, but it sure is funny. Not apt though, for I cannot match the largeness of Churchill’s girth or mind. So the little that is benign is sufficient to envelop all of me:)
#160 by soysauce:
As I see it, since he has mentioned that he is turning over a new leaf, perhaps this obsession is the equivalent of a crime of passion! I seriously suggest that the two of you start a ‘Chennai Chowk’ link…some ‘saapat’ for thought…
#161 by tahmed32:
[FV: glad you approve of going to hawaii for hajj. could you pull a few strings with your indian muslim leaders and send self and zafar some hajj funds for this purpose? (we`ll need extra funds to buy drinks for the local hoors).]
The only time I pulled some strings, was when I was trying to learn puppetry. However, there is a problem in here re. Indian Muslim leaders…they might want to join in. I don’t know about you, but I think Zafar could manage to do a rather nice, “Drink to thine eyes” stuff and save on the sharaab on the hoors…
- - -
Very few here are in a position to discuss “class”. This board was pretty much devoid of animosity. Trust some to drum up noise to draw attention to themselves. And then they say…who cares about FV? Honey, do me a favour and do what sensible people do: If you don’t care, then don’t waste your time. It reveals desperation. I hate to see that in so-called rational folk.
Thanks to the rest for reading and responding. Harimau, there is life beyond Periyar and Perrier…should you and soysauce ever visit Mumbai and my country (!!), do let me know. A glass of dragon’s blood (it is a cocktail and not from my veins!) awaits you…
I do not ask anyone to toe my line of thinking; this is how I feel, that is all. If it is seen as a restricted vision then the responses are equally, if not more, restricted. When I speak up against the Pope, the Hindus don’t have any major problems. Why is that so? And Mahesh, anyone who has read the article on this board cannot accuse me of what you are doing. Here is an example of ‘objectivity’. Tough to digest?
#150 by mohar11:
[People admire Gandhi because they agree with his principle of non-violence...... Following that principle is a whole different issue - we are not even going there. Similarly, when people say they admire Jinnah, it indicates that they agree with his principles. Otherwise it doesn`t make sense.]
I provide you with the following statements made by the prime minister of India…do tell me what are the principles he agrees with and what he follows? This would be a good benchmark.
“I am his (Modi’s) advocate and it is my duty the plead his case.”
“What happened in Gujarat? If the attack on the Sabarmati had not happened, then what happened later (communal violence) would not have happened.”
“Muslims the world over do not want to mingle with other communities. They simply do not want to live in peace. The countries where there are Muslim populations live in perpetual fear of Islamic militancy.”
The views of lesser mortals have far less impact than those of our leaders. Yet, you will not utter a word against them.
[Following his principles comes next ... and by god.... that would be a big can of worms. We all hope nobody ever follows his principles again.]
From this article itself: “The welfare of all citizens in a democracy rests on the government in power. The last time a party was formed for the welfare of a community, we had another country.”
#149 by harimau:
War booty? And you say you respect women and would not treat me as a commodity…
I had not read the Evelyn Waugh statement, but it sure is funny. Not apt though, for I cannot match the largeness of Churchill’s girth or mind. So the little that is benign is sufficient to envelop all of me:)
#160 by soysauce:
As I see it, since he has mentioned that he is turning over a new leaf, perhaps this obsession is the equivalent of a crime of passion! I seriously suggest that the two of you start a ‘Chennai Chowk’ link…some ‘saapat’ for thought…
#161 by tahmed32:
[FV: glad you approve of going to hawaii for hajj. could you pull a few strings with your indian muslim leaders and send self and zafar some hajj funds for this purpose? (we`ll need extra funds to buy drinks for the local hoors).]
The only time I pulled some strings, was when I was trying to learn puppetry. However, there is a problem in here re. Indian Muslim leaders…they might want to join in. I don’t know about you, but I think Zafar could manage to do a rather nice, “Drink to thine eyes” stuff and save on the sharaab on the hoors…
- - -
Very few here are in a position to discuss “class”. This board was pretty much devoid of animosity. Trust some to drum up noise to draw attention to themselves. And then they say…who cares about FV? Honey, do me a favour and do what sensible people do: If you don’t care, then don’t waste your time. It reveals desperation. I hate to see that in so-called rational folk.
Thanks to the rest for reading and responding. Harimau, there is life beyond Periyar and Perrier…should you and soysauce ever visit Mumbai and my country (!!), do let me know. A glass of dragon’s blood (it is a cocktail and not from my veins!) awaits you…
#164 Posted by ballukhan on January 12, 2004 11:22:38 pm
#147 by FarzanaVersey on January 12, 2004 1:48am PT
All this nonsense about Nehru would have been understandable if it was Sardar Khushwant Singh who had a first hand knowledge about these political figures.
But all this plain old bitching by FV about distant figures like Nehru basing itself upon coffee table rumours is just BS! Clearly shows her class!!
All this nonsense about Nehru would have been understandable if it was Sardar Khushwant Singh who had a first hand knowledge about these political figures.
But all this plain old bitching by FV about distant figures like Nehru basing itself upon coffee table rumours is just BS! Clearly shows her class!!
#163 Posted by sadna on January 12, 2004 1:45:14 pm
If Nehru had gotten himself buried, that would mean he planned to rise out of the grave someday. Now that`s modern and rational.
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