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Born Again

B Waraich February 2, 2005

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#7 Posted by Waraich on February 3, 2005 9:08:41 pm
Reply to 4- Yes, Veeresh, nb showed me this. god knows who these people are. We may not ever know what really happened but i guess we have to keep trying.
Reply to the rest- well, I`m not a reporter. And this is not a story of all sikhs with hair, just one. It`s based on an aquaintance who did contemplate suicide and cut off his har so his family wouldnt recognise him. I just tried to get into his head.
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#6 Posted by Saira_K. on February 3, 2005 8:54:55 pm
This is a good feature. Are you by any chance a reporter? You write like one.
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#5 Posted by hamidm2 on February 3, 2005 8:07:52 pm
uh ???????
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#4 Posted by veeresh on February 2, 2005 8:21:46 pm
Off topic, but relevant to some of us . . .



http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=63952

Pak govt report says over 180 Indians in its jails



RAUF KLASRA


Posted online: Thursday, February 03, 2005 at 0208 hours IST



ISLAMABAD, FEBRUARY 2: As many as 182 Indian prisoners, including five
women, have been languishing in Pakistani jails on `unknown charges` since
1971, with many suffering from loss of memory, an official report disclosed.
Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao will present the classified
report in the Senate on Wednesday. This is for the first time a Pakistani
government has officially recorded data of Indian prisoners, many of whom
entered mistakenly into its territory. A copy obtained by The News reveals
that out of 182 prisoners, 30 are Muslims and a few are Christians. Rest are
either Hindus or Sikhs.


The report is silent about whether the prisoners were ever produced before
any Pakistani courts and formally charge sheeted or not. An official said
the report suggests the detainees were never produced before any court. It
also fails to explain what charges were framed against the prisoners and the
arrangements were made with India to help their release. Similarly, the
report does not give details whether the government had any plan to release
them if it had no sound cases against them as a gesture of goodwill with
India. The report has also not given the names of jails where they have been
kept.
However, the report says the government had given Indian consular access to
50 Indian prisoners. The report is also silent about their place of birth,
which could have helped their relatives to identify them. A number of the
unfortunate prisoners, according to the sources in the ministry, have lost
their memory and are suffering from depression and psychiatric problems.
India had handed over a list of its 54 citizens believed to be in Pakistani
jails. The exchange of list was also made part of 98 confidence building
measures that India exchanged with Pakistan. The Pakistan government had tri
ed to find out information about those 54 Indians but could not do it.
The names and particulars of prisoners as recorded by the Pakistan Interior
Ministry
Mohammad Sadiq alias Wela s/o Wali Mohammad, Ibrahim Ghulam s/o Ghulam
Hussain, Mohammad Usman s/o Mohammad Amin, Waljis s/o Rai Mal, Mohammad Amin
s/o Haji Mohammad, Mohammad Javed Hussain s/o Mohammad Gulzar Hussain, Gopal
Bhagat s/o Heman Bagat, Mehan Khan so Adat Khan, Maya daughter of Wall
Singh, Qasim s/o Mohamamd, Liaqat Khan so Qurdat Khan, Manoranjan alias
Mohammad Imran so Widya Sagar, Hira Lal s/o Dalir Singh, Munawar Lal s/o of
Das Ram, Hadeep Singh so Charan Singh, Talal Raj s/o Punjab Raj, Ameerjeet
Singh s/o Mohinder Pall, Kernail Singh s/o Kartar Singh, Narmal Singh s/o
Sonara Singh, Sohan Singh so Sinjgara Singh, Rajeev Singh S/O Jashveender
Singh, Satesh Kumar s/o Shery Mohar Lal, Rakesh Kumar s/o Jeet Ram, Sirbjeet
Singh s/o Dilbagh Singh, Pershutum Lal s/o Charan Das, Jaspal Singh s/o
Sardar Chaman Singh, Sohan Singh s/o Ameerjeet Singh, Jaspal Singh s/o Suran
Singh, Jernel Singh so Suran Singh, Charhanjeet Singh so Balvaher Singh,
Mehender Singh s/o Darshan Singh, Perdeep Kumar so Harbans Lal, Gagan Deep
Singh so Dersaj, Haresh Kumar s/o Mangoram, Baljeet Singh so Taram Singh,
arseel Lal s/o Boota Lal, Karnel Singh s/o Purdeep Singh, Jamspal Singh s/o
Sevram Singh, Otar Singh s/o of Mangha Singh, Shahra Singh s/o Sone Singh,
Davinder Singh so Lakhvinder Singh, Daveinder Singh s/o Lakhvinder Singh,
Ilyas s/o Badiu, Ram Kumar s/o of Amir Kumar, Shahidul Islam s/o Abdul Al
Hassan, Wonyou so Abdul Rehman, Umer Farooq s/o Karim Din, Ashok Kumar s/o
of Soran Das, Boota Ram so Dharam Chand, Gopal Das s/o Baharia Lal,
Gurbukush Ram s/o of Amer Nath, Kuldeep Kumar s/o Nanak Chand, Kaldeep Singh
s/o Chanda Singh, Mana Masih so Pala Masih, Manga Ram s/o Kaqtar Ram, Pervez
Ahmed Masood s/o Mohamamd Yousaf Masoodi, Ram Parkash s/o of Dewan Chand;
Shahbuddin Mir s/o Sirajuddin Mir, Surjeet Singh s/o Sucha Singh, Karpal
Singh s/o Dwas Singh, Kashmir Singh s/o Sansar Singh, Manjeet Singh s/o
Solkehea Singh, Abdul Nasir so Abdul Razaak, Ataf Hussain s/o Ghulam
Hussain, Ameerjeet Singh Solekehea Singh, Amjad Khan so Bazaid Khan, Babu
Ram s/o Kaiser Chand, Behram s/o unknown, Bharat Boshan s/o Sat Poul, Chnna
Singh s/o of Ujagar Singh, Chanranjeet Singh Ins Raj Singh, Charan Singh s/o
Hamen Singh, Chitran Das s/o Saman Dad, Dave Das s/o Pooran Das, Daveinder
Singh s/o Auter Singh, Dubinder Singh s/o Naitar Singh, Ganga Ram so Ram
Chander, Golu s/o Mehru, Gourpreet Singh s/o Manjeet Singh, Gula Ram so
Beeka Ram, Gurumail Singh s/o Sawaran, Hakim Singh so Janab Singh, Hardeep
Singh so Rolda Singh, Haribhoran Singh s/o Guru Pangi Singh, Harbans Lal s/o
Kohlu Ram, Jagtar Singh s/o Ghore Bachan, Jasvant Singh s/o Narovander
Singh, Jatinder Kunar s/o Sohan Lal, Journeil Singh s/o Banta Singh, Kala
Singh so Sunder singh, Kala Singh s/o Sundar Singh, Kuldeep Singh s/o Sadhu
Singh, Kalveer Singh s/o Chanan Singh, Kalvinder Singh so Hervent Singh,
Kamal Jeet Singh Jgir Singh, Karamat Rahi Masih s/o Saith Shama Masih,
Khurshid Ahmed s/o Abdul Ahad, Lukvinder Singh s/o Balbir Singh, Lukhvinder
Singh so Kartar Singh, Lal Chand s/o Tarsem Lal, Mahel Singh so Pur Singh;
Majender Singh s/o Lal Singh, Makhen Singh s/o Chanan Singh, Malkeet Singh
s/o Fata Singh, Manjeet Singh s/o Kabal Singh, Mir Mohammad so Haji Matloob,
Mohan Lal s/o Mangi Lal, Mst Fatima Bibi wife of Ramzan Khan, Mst Matii
daughter of Sita Ram, Ms Teena Peka Wife of Rajesh, Mohammad Ali s/o Sarmoj
Ali, Mohammad Irshad so Mohammad Akbar, Mohamamd Ashraf s/o Abdul Rashid,
Mohammad Hassan so Mohammad Riaz, Mohammad Kamal s/o Mohammad Fazal,
Mohammad Muslim Din s/o Abdul Aziz, Mohammad Riasat s/o Abdul Aziz, Naseem
Paul s/o Bhopal, Navinder Pal s/o Stapal, Nazarul Islam s/o Phool Mian,
Nishan Sinh s/o Piyara Singh, Parkash so Gana, Peeru Dival s/o Badu Lal,
Pervaiz s/o Abdul Jabar, Pretum Singh s/o Bakhshu Lal, Radhey Sham s/o Bansi
Lal, Rahat s/o Abdul Hai, Ram Das s/o Frash Chand Das, Ram Paul, s/o Ram
Dari, Ramu Ram s/o Shame Ram, Rashi Paul so ShahiPaul, Sheikh Mohammad s/o
Amir Mohammad, Sheikh Mansoor Ali so Sh Anwar Ali, Surjeet Singh s/o Rolda;
Singh, Sukhveer Singh s/o Nadra Singh, Sukhvender Singh s/o Gurmukh Singh,
Suraj Paul s/o Jeet Ram, SURESH Kumar s/o Valati Ram, Surender Paul s/o
Rathis Ram, Swaran Lal Khotra s/o Shive Ram, Tajinder Kumar s/o Ram Singh,
one prisoner does not know his name even, Veegana so Ram Bhai, Vijay Kumar
so Krishan Chand, Warnu SO Shosha, Balvinder s/o Bachari Singh, Bashir
Ahmed, so Azmatulah, BJ Singh s/o Parkash, David Masih, s/o Pitras Mashi,
Kaka Ram s/o Baloch Ram, Manga Sheikh s/o Mohammad Sharif, Mst Naeema
Shabnam daughter of Abdul Mian, Mohammad Afzal so Nazar Mohammad, Mohammad
Ashraf s/o Mir Ullah, Abdul Aziz s/o Muhammad Din, Mohammad Irshad s/o Lal
Hussain, Mohammad Shafi s/o Piswal, Naseeb Chand s/o Sunder Das, Nazir Ahmad
s/o Abdul Rashid, Omparkash s/o Dittu Ram, Parkash Chand s/o Dhana Ram,
Parkash s/o Gula Budho Ram, Rehmat Din s/o Illam Din, Shambu Nath s/o Kunjan
Chand, Suni Masih s/o Fazal Masih, Syed Rafique s/o Syed Bashir Ahmed,
Mohamamd Razzak s/o Naik Mohammad, Liaqat Ali s/o Sain Mohammad, Mukhtar
Ahmed s/o Allam Din and Abdul Rahid s/o Tana.
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#3 Posted by kaurasach on February 2, 2005 12:45:45 pm
When I wore a turban and a `patka`, I got proposals from girls, got hit on, flirtation - what not. This is from American girls and the beautiful kind.
Ever since I ``shed my identity`` - nothing (not a single proposal).

My reasons for cutting hair were not the same as the above character`s or rather cartoon`s who mastrubated to celebrate.

So, i hope in near future, i plan to gain that identity back.
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#2 Posted by kaurasach on February 2, 2005 12:09:14 pm
Now that I am over my initial shock from this baffling article...

Were u trying to immitate Chekhov and a noir french film screen writer at the same time?

The issue of growing pains could`ve been better handled without retorting a crude shock jock type of writing.


Shock style is not suited for every writer. Here it was so artificial. Mastrubation, semen, and blood....WOW!
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#1 Posted by kaurasach on February 2, 2005 10:51:26 am
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