Aasim Khan April 27, 2005
#34 Posted by akpower on April 29, 2005 11:39:27 pm
Nicely written
There is always something in an Azan that gives you peace at heart. It calms you down, soothes your nerves.
There is always something in an Azan that gives you peace at heart. It calms you down, soothes your nerves.
#33 Posted by cayenne on April 29, 2005 5:58:14 am
What about eunuchs??.Next we should start sympathizing for them too??.Read this story and laugh??..........
Eunuchs threaten `castrated` victim
By: Naveeta Singh
April 29, 2005
A computer-generated image of Bimla
by artist Naresh
Korde based
Sunil Sawant (17, name changed) who was allegedly abducted and castrated by three eunuchs on January 8, says he has never been so frightened.
Ever since he was rescued by his family on February 8, the eunuchs call and threaten him on his mobile phone.
“I think the police mistakenly gave them my number,” explains Sawant. Three eunuchs, Bimla, Mahesh Guru and Subhash (arrested) are the accused in the incident.
“Their calls started the day I came home. Bimla called me and said, ‘kisiko bataoge to pachas hijre tere peeche lagaa doonga’,” said Sawant.
Bimla again called him after he lodged the police complaint on April 18 and said, “Vaapas aaja, hum Delhi ya Punjab bhaag jayenge.”
“They want me to come back and join them,” says Sunil.
“One day they called up my mother and said `Sawant ko vaapas laakar de’ and offered her Rs 2,000 every month, in exchange,” he adds.
The harassment doesn’t stop at just phone calls. “On Tuesday, a group of eunuchs followed my mother to work,” says Sunil. Sawant’s mother works as a maid in CBD Belapur.
“Then they called and said ‘mujhe pataa hai teri ma kidhar kaam karti hai,” he adds. “Obviously, I’m scared for myself and my family,” he says.
Case so far
On April 18, Sunil Sawant, a resident of CBD Belapur lodged a complaint against three eunuchs – Bimla, Mahesh Guru and Subhash – for kidnapping and castrating him.
The eunuchs had abducted him on November 24, 2004 and after confining him under duress at various places in New Bombay, castrated him on January 8.
While the police have nabbed Subhash, the others are absconding.
Guru is said to be working as a sweeper/ward boy with a BMC hospital.
http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/city/2005/april/108383.htm
Eunuchs threaten `castrated` victim
By: Naveeta Singh
April 29, 2005
A computer-generated image of Bimla
by artist Naresh
Korde based
Sunil Sawant (17, name changed) who was allegedly abducted and castrated by three eunuchs on January 8, says he has never been so frightened.
Ever since he was rescued by his family on February 8, the eunuchs call and threaten him on his mobile phone.
“I think the police mistakenly gave them my number,” explains Sawant. Three eunuchs, Bimla, Mahesh Guru and Subhash (arrested) are the accused in the incident.
“Their calls started the day I came home. Bimla called me and said, ‘kisiko bataoge to pachas hijre tere peeche lagaa doonga’,” said Sawant.
Bimla again called him after he lodged the police complaint on April 18 and said, “Vaapas aaja, hum Delhi ya Punjab bhaag jayenge.”
“They want me to come back and join them,” says Sunil.
“One day they called up my mother and said `Sawant ko vaapas laakar de’ and offered her Rs 2,000 every month, in exchange,” he adds.
The harassment doesn’t stop at just phone calls. “On Tuesday, a group of eunuchs followed my mother to work,” says Sunil. Sawant’s mother works as a maid in CBD Belapur.
“Then they called and said ‘mujhe pataa hai teri ma kidhar kaam karti hai,” he adds. “Obviously, I’m scared for myself and my family,” he says.
Case so far
On April 18, Sunil Sawant, a resident of CBD Belapur lodged a complaint against three eunuchs – Bimla, Mahesh Guru and Subhash – for kidnapping and castrating him.
The eunuchs had abducted him on November 24, 2004 and after confining him under duress at various places in New Bombay, castrated him on January 8.
While the police have nabbed Subhash, the others are absconding.
Guru is said to be working as a sweeper/ward boy with a BMC hospital.
http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/city/2005/april/108383.htm
#32 Posted by cayenne on April 29, 2005 2:46:27 am
To get a glimpse of multicultural indian life ,check out pics of Hyderabad, the confluence of all religions and poeples of the deccan...........
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=3979448#post3979448
There are about six pages of pics.You`ll see why indians and paks are quite so different in their thought processes.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=3979448#post3979448
There are about six pages of pics.You`ll see why indians and paks are quite so different in their thought processes.
#31 Posted by wasif2 on April 28, 2005 11:02:54 pm
Very Mothsmoke turned upside down. Thank God religion is totally irrelevant for me. Did I say Thank God ??? Now thats exactly what I mean.... all this call wall you were receiving and all this inside thing about am i sinning or not etc.... social & cultural guilt !
#30 Posted by nakhok on April 28, 2005 6:02:15 pm
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_29-4-2005_pg1_4
The Daily Times, Lahore, Pakistan
Friday, April 29, 2005
Christian injured for not reciting kalma
LAHORE: About eight people severely tortured a Christian in Chak 2 (South) near Mandi Bahauddin district for not reciting the kalma. According to a fax sent by the Holy Rosary Church to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), Shahbaz Masih, who worked as a tractor driver for a local landlord, was picked up by several people from his house on the night of April 2 and taken to an undisclosed location. Later, the people told Shahbaz’s family that they had killed him and his body was lying in a field near his village. Shahbaz’s family members went to the location and found the boy alive. They took him to hospital, where he recorded a statement with his family and church authorities. According to the preliminary inquiry by the church, both of Shahbaz’s legs were broken because he refused to recite the kalma.
The Daily Times, Lahore, Pakistan
Friday, April 29, 2005
Christian injured for not reciting kalma
LAHORE: About eight people severely tortured a Christian in Chak 2 (South) near Mandi Bahauddin district for not reciting the kalma. According to a fax sent by the Holy Rosary Church to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), Shahbaz Masih, who worked as a tractor driver for a local landlord, was picked up by several people from his house on the night of April 2 and taken to an undisclosed location. Later, the people told Shahbaz’s family that they had killed him and his body was lying in a field near his village. Shahbaz’s family members went to the location and found the boy alive. They took him to hospital, where he recorded a statement with his family and church authorities. According to the preliminary inquiry by the church, both of Shahbaz’s legs were broken because he refused to recite the kalma.
#29 Posted by nakhok on April 28, 2005 3:01:35 pm
http://www.dawn.com/2005/04/24/top10.htm
DAWN, Karachi, Pakistan
24 April 2005 Sunday 14 Rabi-ul-Awwal 1426
40 Pakistani Christians held in S. Arabia
RIYADH, April 23: Saudi Arabia has detained 40 Pakistani Christians for holding prayers at a house in the kingdom, where practicising any religion other than Islam is illegal, newspapers said on Saturday. A group of men, women and children were attending the service in the capital Riyadh when police raided the house, Al Jazirah newspaper said.
It said authorities also found Christian tapes and books.
Another Saudi daily, Al Yaum, said the raid took place on Friday while a Pakistani preacher was delivering a sermon. It was not clear what measures might be taken against the group.
Saudi authorities were not immediately available to comment.
There are around six million foreigners in the kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states.
In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom.
Following the Sept 11, 2001 attacks, which were carried out by mainly Saudis, the Gulf Arab state’s religious establishment came under sharp criticism by the West for fostering militancy and intolerance of other religions.—Reuters
DAWN, Karachi, Pakistan
24 April 2005 Sunday 14 Rabi-ul-Awwal 1426
40 Pakistani Christians held in S. Arabia
RIYADH, April 23: Saudi Arabia has detained 40 Pakistani Christians for holding prayers at a house in the kingdom, where practicising any religion other than Islam is illegal, newspapers said on Saturday. A group of men, women and children were attending the service in the capital Riyadh when police raided the house, Al Jazirah newspaper said.
It said authorities also found Christian tapes and books.
Another Saudi daily, Al Yaum, said the raid took place on Friday while a Pakistani preacher was delivering a sermon. It was not clear what measures might be taken against the group.
Saudi authorities were not immediately available to comment.
There are around six million foreigners in the kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states.
In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom.
Following the Sept 11, 2001 attacks, which were carried out by mainly Saudis, the Gulf Arab state’s religious establishment came under sharp criticism by the West for fostering militancy and intolerance of other religions.—Reuters
#28 Posted by Saj1981 on April 28, 2005 2:21:54 pm
Re: 24
Good post actually....the call of religion can be quite mind provoking for the non-religious and ``liberal lot``....yet it doesnt solve anything till people fundamentally try do good by action. Having lived in Saudi Arabia for 2/3rds of my life....the call to prayer is consisent...and probably 90 % of the devout through faith or the reality of the Mutawwa ``religious police`` are regular attendees.....sadly I can`t quite say that the same proportion of society can be defined as good in any conceivable way. Moral being....prayer and religiousity can be great...but quite meaningless if not backed with day to day actions...and sadly the former is far easier to do than the latter.
Good post actually....the call of religion can be quite mind provoking for the non-religious and ``liberal lot``....yet it doesnt solve anything till people fundamentally try do good by action. Having lived in Saudi Arabia for 2/3rds of my life....the call to prayer is consisent...and probably 90 % of the devout through faith or the reality of the Mutawwa ``religious police`` are regular attendees.....sadly I can`t quite say that the same proportion of society can be defined as good in any conceivable way. Moral being....prayer and religiousity can be great...but quite meaningless if not backed with day to day actions...and sadly the former is far easier to do than the latter.
#27 Posted by cayenne on April 28, 2005 12:58:51 pm
Re: # 24
I had to read it thrice.
!!!!.Me too.I`m thick in the head.Now i have company.I don`t feel inadequate any more.
I had to read it thrice.
!!!!.Me too.I`m thick in the head.Now i have company.I don`t feel inadequate any more.
#25 Posted by Nadia_Zehra on April 28, 2005 10:02:29 am
You have captured the sonics of holy quality of Aazan streaming out from any Masjid in your short lined experience. As the religion behaves to confine in every person even if the Masjid doesn’t speak loud.
So Follow your Heart,
Masjid dha de,
mandir dha de,
Dha de jo kucch dainda ,
Par kisi da dil na dhaain,
Dil wich Rab Rainda
-Bulleh Shah
So Follow your Heart,
Masjid dha de,
mandir dha de,
Dha de jo kucch dainda ,
Par kisi da dil na dhaain,
Dil wich Rab Rainda
-Bulleh Shah
#24 Posted by kaurasach on April 28, 2005 9:24:36 am
I had to read it thrice. I think I kind of know what this `revelation` is.
As long as one is a good human, it doesn`t matter if one smokes or drinks. Religious calls to pray and Hyms do bring temporary peace of mind, do not necessarily bring goodness - a more important quality.
Cayene is right that Hinduism is liberal and there is no contradiction in imbibing and prayers. On the contrary, they go hand in hand in Hindu rituals. It is common to see Ganja, Bhang, etc. at such functions.
I`ve seen many persons who have such revelations when the hyms are sung or the azan is crowed, and then go and indulge in every type of kanjarpana. Deceit, avarice, jealousy, lies etc. are much worse than smoking and drinking.
As long as one is a good human, it doesn`t matter if one smokes or drinks. Religious calls to pray and Hyms do bring temporary peace of mind, do not necessarily bring goodness - a more important quality.
Cayene is right that Hinduism is liberal and there is no contradiction in imbibing and prayers. On the contrary, they go hand in hand in Hindu rituals. It is common to see Ganja, Bhang, etc. at such functions.
I`ve seen many persons who have such revelations when the hyms are sung or the azan is crowed, and then go and indulge in every type of kanjarpana. Deceit, avarice, jealousy, lies etc. are much worse than smoking and drinking.
#23 Posted by echoboom on April 28, 2005 9:00:18 am
Naqshbandi:22
There are several.
Perhaps you meant this one.
I was quite surprised to learn that the city of Bhopal, compared to other cities in India, has the highest number of masjids.
Professor Afaque Chairman, Iqbal Academy India and based in Bhopal, told me that a lot of outsiders ( Desi & non-Desis) have written about the serene, soothing, and yet a majestic aura of the fajr ( Dawn) azaan in Bhopal.
There are several.
Perhaps you meant this one.
I was quite surprised to learn that the city of Bhopal, compared to other cities in India, has the highest number of masjids.
Professor Afaque Chairman, Iqbal Academy India and based in Bhopal, told me that a lot of outsiders ( Desi & non-Desis) have written about the serene, soothing, and yet a majestic aura of the fajr ( Dawn) azaan in Bhopal.
#22 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 28, 2005 8:14:01 am
This was a beautiful article...many people have been touched by the majesty of the azaan --especially at dawn! Iqbal has a poem about it I am sure but I cannot recall; perhaps echoboom can put it up here?
#21 Posted by aquaris on April 28, 2005 7:57:39 am
It reminded me of a song.....
Sung By Mukesh may be...
Zahid Sharaab peeney day....
Masjid meen Beyth Ker....
Yaa wooh Jaghaa baata dey....
Jehan Per Khuda Na Hoooo......
which could be crudly translated at...
O Good man... let me drink in the Mosque....
Or tell me a place....where there is no God..
I hope... I am not the Next victim of Mullah Brigade.....!!! Its my stupidity ....pure stupidity........and a random thought.....
#20 Posted by aquaris on April 28, 2005 7:57:28 am
It reminded me of a song.....
Sung By Mukesh may be...
Zahid Sharaab peeney day....
Masjid meen Beyth Ker....
Yaa wooh Jaghaa baata dey....
Jehan Per Khuda Na Hoooo......
which could be crudly translated at...
O Good man... let me drink in the Mosque....
Or tell me a place....where there is no God..
I hope... I am not the Next victim of Mullah Brigade.....!!! Its my stupidity ....pure stupidity........and a random thought.....
#19 Posted by vagabond78 on April 28, 2005 3:09:33 am
Now another one:
Mat pee daaru masjid mein, (repeat this 3 times for effect..)
Thodi jo bachi hai kahin khuda na maar le!!
And the gem from Harivanshrai Bachchan:
Duniyawaalon! kintu kisi din aa madiralay mein dekho,
Din mein holi raat diwali roz manati madhushala..
Cheers
Mat pee daaru masjid mein, (repeat this 3 times for effect..)
Thodi jo bachi hai kahin khuda na maar le!!
And the gem from Harivanshrai Bachchan:
Duniyawaalon! kintu kisi din aa madiralay mein dekho,
Din mein holi raat diwali roz manati madhushala..
Cheers
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