Bin Laden And Hiroshima

ahsanhilal

Who, Sir, are you, and how did you cut through this crap so efficiently?

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At least the first of the two questions is rhetorical.

I think physicist`s should stick to the profession that suits them best...physics (ain`t I captain obvious). The article shows sincere effort to make some sense of the chaotic international ruckus on the brink of explosion, but it lacks the strategic insight of someone who is trained and has worked on providing political theories. Merely posting obvious facts regarding US use of nuclear arsenal some 6 decades ago, and linking them up with the current fanatics running amock in our country does not form a cogent analysis of the world`s pathetic situation.

There are many more reasons for nucler proliferation such as iconoclastic nationalism, disconneted religious fanatacism, etc. As to whether the use of nuclear weaponry is permissible in state of conflict, I think the question knows its own end. The only problem of nuclear stupidity stems from idiocy of some dictators and mass-murderers. As far as state`s are concerned, the MAD principle even if not enunciated in legal contrtaction is known by most statesmen and their cronies; anything otherwise would be downright devastating for themselves even.

Mr. Khamkhwa, Mr. Godboley, and Mr. Sattar,

As correctly pointed out by Mr. Montag, Sri Sir Mr. Tahmed Ji Sahib, is THE MOST polite, respectful, AND respected presence on Chowk. I thank Mr. Montag for his eloquence in supporting this saintly person. Your collective remarks, as hateful, despicable, idiotic, and nonsensical as they are, deserve to be refuted outright. I respect and admire Mr. Tahmed Sahib for his sincerity, his compassion, his sense of logic, and his infrequent but hilarious humor. He has the laudable ability to consider all sides of an issue and is a pleasure to correspond with even when one disagrees with him.

As for all the khamkhwa stink raised by the insignificant ``gender bender with a tender fender` of the same usesless nic, I can only say that this insidious cross-dresser is also a yellow journalist - and not of the oriental persuasion. ``He/she`` has posted several messages from Unplugged without presenting the other side of the altercation. Khamkhwa has khamkhwa meN abused Mr. Salim and his friends. ``He/she`` has used inside influence with Chowk to have Mr. Salim and his friends` messages and threads deleted and erased without cause. So, after having given Chowk Staff, Khamkhwa and his cohorts, sufficient requests, and then warnings, Mr Salim proceeded to abuse Khamkhwa and his cohorts and provide them with a real reason to delete messages and erase threads. If you deny people the right to express themselves - even when they have rational and polite things to say, you might end up listening to expressions that might be less rational and not that polite. :

Salim

Simple truth is that we had not evolved as a compassionate society back then as we are now. Today `human right` is a big issue, the term didn`t even exist, capital sentence is being abolished everywhere and transparency and individual freedom is encouraged. Besides saturation media coverage would have ensured that at least Nagasaki bomb was avoided.

Also, what is equally bad or worse than an actual nuclear attack is the reckless proliferation of nuclear technology, of which Pakistan has proved to be the undisputed pioneer. I wouldn`t be surprised if the next nuclear bomb is dropped by North Korea, which acquired nuclear know-how from not unsurprisingly, Pakistan, in exchange for missile technology.

It is funny that the Paki criticism of the American bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is damningly absent when talk veers round to Pakistan`s nuclear program. While India has a stated no first use policy, Pakistan toots it nuclear horn at every given opportunity.

Now please don`t give us the BS about how Pakistan feels threatened by India. All the three and a half wars our countries have fought were started by Pakistan.

I find the criticism of USA for atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki amusing. Imperial Japan was a vicious state. Their brutality in China, Korea, Philippines, Singapore and Andaman Islands is well documented. If Japanese occupied India we would not have a population problem for sure.

Re: # 124
...most chowkies know you are the latest version of salim... hiro...premwala...;)

Re: # 123
...i am only helping spread your good work to the interactors at front page who may not be aware of your repertoire...;)

OK man, that was a typo.. some 2000 are buried there, but total American soldiers killed is estimated at 400 K to ½ million. But that’s not important.

500,000 soldiers in normandy? that is more than the total us deaths in ww2

Heck with nukes and the history of modern Wars, it is saddening to read a political account of wars by a professor of nuclear physics. What the pluck is wrong with these Pakis? Every one wants to opine on issues that are way outside of their expertise. I just returned from Pakistan. It would be awesome if a few professors got together to find a solution to provide clean drinking water for Pakistanis than b’s’ing about why Americans bombed Hiroshima in 1945.

Only a little over 250K people died in nuke attacks on Hiroshima (twice as many American Soldiers are buried in Normandy), while over 20 Millions Russians were killed by Stalin, and not to mention 6 million Yahoodis by Hazrat Hitler Elehe-Salam. Pasha and Kamal killed over a Million Armenians (1.2 to be exact). Pakistanis butchered 3 Million Bengalis, and so on. The point is that people get killed in conflicts.

Worry about providing clean drinking water to Pakistanis.

#122, You are on sick puppy. Shame on you.

Mr. Khamkhwa #122,
Please keep your sophomoric pranks from Unplugged to that medium where morons and imbeciles reign as they control who can say what. Please do not pollute FP with your trash.
Thanks,

Re: # 120

here are some profoundly erudite thoughts of our learned salim aka hiro aka premwala...for the front pagers...learn and prosper...;)

Dear Chowk Staff and Khamkhwa and Mr. Godbole, important message for you



Started by hiro on August 10, 2005 11:17am PT

Dear Chowk Staff and Khamkhwa and Mr. Godbole, important message for you

Ulloo ke pathoN, haramzaadoN, tumhari maaN ki choot, tumhari behnoN ke choot meN sub kaalon ke loRey paReN. Tumhari apni gaandon meN keeRey baseN, aur tumhare chutRoN meN bunderoN ke loRay bhar jaaeN. Scout aur Saminasha or Sobia tumhare choTay choTay loRay chaba chaba kar aur choTay banaaN deN.

tahmed (#116):

In WWII almost a hundred thousand Japanese civilians were instantly killed … so that their leaders could be taught a lesson. Read this line again. Note the underlined words. This is similar to killing children of a dangerous, bigoted man … so that he could be taught a lesson.

Yesterday on NPR Terry Gross was interviewing head of some fatwa council from some Islamic organization in the US. Apparently several Muslim organizations have come together to officially condemn terrorism, suicide bombings through an edict. He was asked by Terry if this edict condemns killing civilians only or does it also condemn killing men in uniform (for e.g. US soldiers in Iraq). He replied that it applies to condemning killing civilians only.

He referenced a Quranic verse (from Chapter 5, I think) to substantiate his view … that killing civilians in a war goes against the message of Quran.

For whatever reasons, it seems that even the ullema are getting on board with accepting the message of Quran. Though they dragged their feet for a long time … it is “better later than never” kinda thing. However, you are still stuck in a mindset where killing civilians in order to win a war is acceptable.

Good grief … and all along I thought Urstruly had a problem …

Finally … knowing facts ... is different from ... understanding how facts fit together. Your conclusions are overly simplistic. You are lumping all Japanese in one category. Japanese leaders were lunatics … but did Japanese civilians deserved to be nuked for it? If nothing else, take a moment to understand Quran before lecturing others on it.