Memories of December 6th
An ex-MP’s murder tells the tale: Before he and family were killed, Jafri was on phone for 6 hrs
http://www.indian-express.com/ie20020301/top3.html
CHOWK READERS,
Please note that India is huge country where a few hundred MPs represent 1 billion people, making an ex-MP a somewhat important person as compared with an average citizen.
Apparently, Ehsan Jafri started calling police and other state and federal officials and politicians for help when peace loving secular Hindus laid seige to his house, and kept on calling for 6 hours... right upto the time when he was burnt to death with 38 other muslims including 10 children. Commissioner of Ahmadabad Police, P.C. Pandey termed this an ``unfortunate incident``. Bless you P.C. Pandey. Long live secular humanism (Jay Bajrang Balli).
If this is the fate of an ex-MP, you can imagine what an average Indian muslim can expect in his secular republic, which is supposed to protect its citizens regardless of their religion. This picture of an Indian muslim caught in the middle of his secular Hindu neighbors explains it a bit:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020301/170/174ml.html
I hope the poor guy and his children surrvived.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 1, 2002 11:12 am
Read about the tragic last few hours of a muslim ex MP in Ahmadabad, the most industrialized city in the Secular Hindu republic of India.An ex-MP’s murder tells the tale: Before he and family were killed, Jafri was on phone for 6 hrs
http://www.indian-express.com/ie20020301/top3.html
CHOWK READERS,
Please note that India is huge country where a few hundred MPs represent 1 billion people, making an ex-MP a somewhat important person as compared with an average citizen.
Apparently, Ehsan Jafri started calling police and other state and federal officials and politicians for help when peace loving secular Hindus laid seige to his house, and kept on calling for 6 hours... right upto the time when he was burnt to death with 38 other muslims including 10 children. Commissioner of Ahmadabad Police, P.C. Pandey termed this an ``unfortunate incident``. Bless you P.C. Pandey. Long live secular humanism (Jay Bajrang Balli).
If this is the fate of an ex-MP, you can imagine what an average Indian muslim can expect in his secular republic, which is supposed to protect its citizens regardless of their religion. This picture of an Indian muslim caught in the middle of his secular Hindu neighbors explains it a bit:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020301/170/174ml.html
I hope the poor guy and his children surrvived.
Memories of December 6th
[How about the fact that 60+ Hindu pilgrims were burnt to death by Islamic thugs in a train and that this is retribution for that? Or is it that the Islamic thugs were following Al-Kitab]
Hindu pilgrims??? Karsevaks who travel to demolish mosques are hindu pilgrims?? Is that the definition of pilgrimage in your pagan religion? Lets see: ``Hindu Pilgrim: A person who undertakes a journey to demolish places of worship of other religions, or to burn alive, kill, injure or maim followers of other religions, and to loot and burn their properties.`` Can you give us the Sanskrit version from vedas, or manu smitri or kok shastar or another one of your scriptures?
[You can be pretty sure that more Muslims just because of the population ratio between Hindus and Muslims will be killed (we can assemble more, bigger mobs than you can) and you can take perverse pleasure in that.]
It is not the population ratio, it is the active support of police and other LEAs that enables you hindu thugs to kill more muslims. Keep your putrid lies to yourself please, there are no Hindu and Muslim mobs fighting each other, only Hindu mobs attacking Muslims and their properties with support from the police.
You are the only sicko on this website who is keeping the ``score`` and gloating over the higher number of muslim casualties. However, I am sure Bagpipe and rest of the Sangh Parawaris are doing the same too.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 28, 2002 07:58 pm
Reply # 71 harimau[How about the fact that 60+ Hindu pilgrims were burnt to death by Islamic thugs in a train and that this is retribution for that? Or is it that the Islamic thugs were following Al-Kitab]
Hindu pilgrims??? Karsevaks who travel to demolish mosques are hindu pilgrims?? Is that the definition of pilgrimage in your pagan religion? Lets see: ``Hindu Pilgrim: A person who undertakes a journey to demolish places of worship of other religions, or to burn alive, kill, injure or maim followers of other religions, and to loot and burn their properties.`` Can you give us the Sanskrit version from vedas, or manu smitri or kok shastar or another one of your scriptures?
[You can be pretty sure that more Muslims just because of the population ratio between Hindus and Muslims will be killed (we can assemble more, bigger mobs than you can) and you can take perverse pleasure in that.]
It is not the population ratio, it is the active support of police and other LEAs that enables you hindu thugs to kill more muslims. Keep your putrid lies to yourself please, there are no Hindu and Muslim mobs fighting each other, only Hindu mobs attacking Muslims and their properties with support from the police.
You are the only sicko on this website who is keeping the ``score`` and gloating over the higher number of muslim casualties. However, I am sure Bagpipe and rest of the Sangh Parawaris are doing the same too.
Memories of December 6th
[Its inhuman attitudes like yours which make me happy we let you go.]
We paid with our blood for our freedom from you and the likes of you. Aapne hamaray baap per koi ehsan kiya tha kya by ``letting us go``? We too are happy for not being at the mercy of Hindu thugs like Bagpipe, Advani, Modi or Police Commissioner Pande and happy not to be roasted alive with ex-MLA Ehsan Jefri and his 12 children (or like Graham Staines and his children).
[There were people killed yesterday, including women and children, where were your tears then? At least 116 Indians have been allowed to die in communal violence, thats whats important, Pakistan`s hatred of Indians is totally irrelevant.]
No one deserves your taunts for lack of humanity better than Mr. P.C. Pandey, the police commissioner of Ahmadabad who thinks that the burning alive of 38 innocent Muslims is an ``unfortunate incident`` where as the burning alive of karsevak thugs is ``terrorism``.
And please, we dont ``hate`` you; we consider you vermin, yes, like rats, snakes and other pests are considered vermin, but we don`t hate you like we don`t hate rats or snakes. You have to be human to qualify for our hatred.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 28, 2002 04:54 pm
Reply # 67 sadna[Its inhuman attitudes like yours which make me happy we let you go.]
We paid with our blood for our freedom from you and the likes of you. Aapne hamaray baap per koi ehsan kiya tha kya by ``letting us go``? We too are happy for not being at the mercy of Hindu thugs like Bagpipe, Advani, Modi or Police Commissioner Pande and happy not to be roasted alive with ex-MLA Ehsan Jefri and his 12 children (or like Graham Staines and his children).
[There were people killed yesterday, including women and children, where were your tears then? At least 116 Indians have been allowed to die in communal violence, thats whats important, Pakistan`s hatred of Indians is totally irrelevant.]
No one deserves your taunts for lack of humanity better than Mr. P.C. Pandey, the police commissioner of Ahmadabad who thinks that the burning alive of 38 innocent Muslims is an ``unfortunate incident`` where as the burning alive of karsevak thugs is ``terrorism``.
And please, we dont ``hate`` you; we consider you vermin, yes, like rats, snakes and other pests are considered vermin, but we don`t hate you like we don`t hate rats or snakes. You have to be human to qualify for our hatred.
Tattoo diary: Queens, New York
[any respect i had for stuka`s otherwise intelligent posts and ali`s obvious wit and intelligence, has gone flying out the window...they both are sick mental ugly human beings who are a big fat dhabba on whichever nationality, religion and sect they belong to..]
anNy,
chowk is a place to express your opinions, provided the form and content is acceptable to chowk editors. If there ever was a popularity contest on chowk, sorry, I missed it.
Obscenity and obnoxiousness are in the eye of the reader. For example, mother f--ker and its various vairants are abundantly used in chowk interacts and no one including chowk editors raise an eyebrow. However, they deemed its Urdu/Punjabi equivalent so offensive that they went through the trouble of removing already posted interacts on this board!!
[everyone get together and pray stuka`s daughter falls in love with ali`s son]
Relax anNy. Please realize that ali1 is an anonymous internet handle, not a real person.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 28, 2002 03:55 pm
Reply # 96 anNy[any respect i had for stuka`s otherwise intelligent posts and ali`s obvious wit and intelligence, has gone flying out the window...they both are sick mental ugly human beings who are a big fat dhabba on whichever nationality, religion and sect they belong to..]
anNy,
chowk is a place to express your opinions, provided the form and content is acceptable to chowk editors. If there ever was a popularity contest on chowk, sorry, I missed it.
Obscenity and obnoxiousness are in the eye of the reader. For example, mother f--ker and its various vairants are abundantly used in chowk interacts and no one including chowk editors raise an eyebrow. However, they deemed its Urdu/Punjabi equivalent so offensive that they went through the trouble of removing already posted interacts on this board!!
[everyone get together and pray stuka`s daughter falls in love with ali`s son]
Relax anNy. Please realize that ali1 is an anonymous internet handle, not a real person.
Memories of December 6th
Police: Hindu Mob Kills 38 Muslims
Thu Feb 28,10:40 AM ET
AHMADABAD, India (AP) - A crowd of Hindus set fire to Muslim homes Thursday and burned to death 38 people inside, 12 of them children, amid riots in retaliation for a Muslim attack on a train, police said.
Some 2,000 rioters stoned six Muslim-owned bungalows in a mostly Hindu neighborhood of Ahmadabad, then poured kerocene on them and set them ablaze, said P.B. Gondya, the deputy commissioner of police.
``We have taken out 18 bodies,`` Joint Commissioner of Police M.K. Tandon told The Associated Press.
He said officers saw the bodies of 12 children and 10 adults still lying inside the smoldering remains of the homes in Ahmadabad`s Meghaninagar neighborhood.
The deaths brought the toll in rioting throughout western Gujarat state on Thursday to at least 58 as Hindus attacked Muslims in retaliation for a Muslim attack on a train Wednesday, in which 58 people died, most of them Hindus.
Police were alerted to the Meghaninagar fires by the calls of a former Parliament member who lived in one of the burning homes. But it took police two hours — and fire fighters six hours — to get to the site because of road blockades set up by Hindu rioters in Ahmadabad, police said.
``This happened due to mob violence and our men could not reach there on time. This is not an excuse but it is an extremely unfortunate incident,`` said Ahmadabad Police Commissioner P.C. Pandey.
Police said the former parliamentarian, Ehsan Jefri, fired a gun into the air when some 200 Hindus gathered around the Muslim homes, trying to disperse them. The crowd then swelled and attacked the houses. Jefri was among the dead, police said.
Rioters set fire to more than 50 buildings in Ahmadabad, most of them Muslim-owned. Hindu gangs also rioted in more than two dozen other towns in Gujarat state amid a strike called to protest Wednesday`s train attack.
NOTE:
``But it took police two hours — and fire fighters six hours — to get to the site because of road blockades set up by Hindu rioters in Ahmadabad, police said.``
So typical and predictable.... Police arrives to give a safe escort to Hindu roiters after they have completed their job. Fire fighters arrive after everything has burnt down to ground.
``This happened due to mob violence and our men could not reach there on time. This is not an excuse but it is an extremely unfortunate incident,`` said Ahmadabad Police Commissioner P.C. Pandey.
Sure Pandey Sahab. Burning alive of 38 innocent muslims is an ``unfortunate incident``, burning alive of Karsevak terrorists is ``terrorism``.
The only reason that this ``unfortunate incident`` has even been acknowledged is because an ex MLA Ehsan Jefri was killed. Otherwise it would have been an ``unsubtantiated rumor``.
Rest in peace Ehsan Jefri. I hope you enjoyed being burnt to death by your ``secular``, ``peaceful`` and ``tolerant`` Hindu neighbors.
This one takes the cake:
[The chief minister said the people have excercised restraint. ``I believe that the reaction of the people is that of restraint compared to what the terrorists did in Godhra, which was clearly a terrorist attack on innocent train passengers``.]
http://www.timesofindia.com/Articleshow.asp?art_id=2371606
Burnig alive 38 muslims, stabbing numerous others and burning/looting their properties is a demonstration of Hindu restraint.
[Union Home Minister L K Advani has said that he was in constant touch with Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi]
I bet both these mofos are planning on how to maximize the punishment inflicted on muslims.
I bet there will be a replay of this show of ``restraint`` and ``tolerance`` all over the Hindu Repulic of India come Friday. Hindu thugs all over the country will go on rampage, to kill and burn Indian muslims and their properties. The religion obsessed Hindu police and paramilitary forces will either assist in the pillage in Muslim dominated areas or conviniently arrive late in Hindu dominated areas.
Has happened before, will happen again, and again and again and again, until this pagan rat- worshipping society is reformed or the pagan Hindu religion is completely wiped out.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 28, 2002 12:35 pm
Secularism at work in the Hindu Republic of India.Police: Hindu Mob Kills 38 Muslims
Thu Feb 28,10:40 AM ET
AHMADABAD, India (AP) - A crowd of Hindus set fire to Muslim homes Thursday and burned to death 38 people inside, 12 of them children, amid riots in retaliation for a Muslim attack on a train, police said.
Some 2,000 rioters stoned six Muslim-owned bungalows in a mostly Hindu neighborhood of Ahmadabad, then poured kerocene on them and set them ablaze, said P.B. Gondya, the deputy commissioner of police.
``We have taken out 18 bodies,`` Joint Commissioner of Police M.K. Tandon told The Associated Press.
He said officers saw the bodies of 12 children and 10 adults still lying inside the smoldering remains of the homes in Ahmadabad`s Meghaninagar neighborhood.
The deaths brought the toll in rioting throughout western Gujarat state on Thursday to at least 58 as Hindus attacked Muslims in retaliation for a Muslim attack on a train Wednesday, in which 58 people died, most of them Hindus.
Police were alerted to the Meghaninagar fires by the calls of a former Parliament member who lived in one of the burning homes. But it took police two hours — and fire fighters six hours — to get to the site because of road blockades set up by Hindu rioters in Ahmadabad, police said.
``This happened due to mob violence and our men could not reach there on time. This is not an excuse but it is an extremely unfortunate incident,`` said Ahmadabad Police Commissioner P.C. Pandey.
Police said the former parliamentarian, Ehsan Jefri, fired a gun into the air when some 200 Hindus gathered around the Muslim homes, trying to disperse them. The crowd then swelled and attacked the houses. Jefri was among the dead, police said.
Rioters set fire to more than 50 buildings in Ahmadabad, most of them Muslim-owned. Hindu gangs also rioted in more than two dozen other towns in Gujarat state amid a strike called to protest Wednesday`s train attack.
NOTE:
``But it took police two hours — and fire fighters six hours — to get to the site because of road blockades set up by Hindu rioters in Ahmadabad, police said.``
So typical and predictable.... Police arrives to give a safe escort to Hindu roiters after they have completed their job. Fire fighters arrive after everything has burnt down to ground.
``This happened due to mob violence and our men could not reach there on time. This is not an excuse but it is an extremely unfortunate incident,`` said Ahmadabad Police Commissioner P.C. Pandey.
Sure Pandey Sahab. Burning alive of 38 innocent muslims is an ``unfortunate incident``, burning alive of Karsevak terrorists is ``terrorism``.
The only reason that this ``unfortunate incident`` has even been acknowledged is because an ex MLA Ehsan Jefri was killed. Otherwise it would have been an ``unsubtantiated rumor``.
Rest in peace Ehsan Jefri. I hope you enjoyed being burnt to death by your ``secular``, ``peaceful`` and ``tolerant`` Hindu neighbors.
This one takes the cake:
[The chief minister said the people have excercised restraint. ``I believe that the reaction of the people is that of restraint compared to what the terrorists did in Godhra, which was clearly a terrorist attack on innocent train passengers``.]
http://www.timesofindia.com/Articleshow.asp?art_id=2371606
Burnig alive 38 muslims, stabbing numerous others and burning/looting their properties is a demonstration of Hindu restraint.
[Union Home Minister L K Advani has said that he was in constant touch with Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi]
I bet both these mofos are planning on how to maximize the punishment inflicted on muslims.
I bet there will be a replay of this show of ``restraint`` and ``tolerance`` all over the Hindu Repulic of India come Friday. Hindu thugs all over the country will go on rampage, to kill and burn Indian muslims and their properties. The religion obsessed Hindu police and paramilitary forces will either assist in the pillage in Muslim dominated areas or conviniently arrive late in Hindu dominated areas.
Has happened before, will happen again, and again and again and again, until this pagan rat- worshipping society is reformed or the pagan Hindu religion is completely wiped out.
Tattoo diary: Queens, New York
Chowk censors saved the entire khatri clan, lucky you!
Chowk staff, instead of selectively nixing sentences from my posts, please consider discarding the whole post if you think its inappropriate.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 25, 2002 04:43 pm
Stuka,Chowk censors saved the entire khatri clan, lucky you!
Chowk staff, instead of selectively nixing sentences from my posts, please consider discarding the whole post if you think its inappropriate.
Lessons From the Pearl Murder
Plague-like infection reported in Punjab
TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2002 12:13:39 AM ]
HISAR:Hisar Civil Hospital, on Friday, sent a patient suffering from suspected plague to PGI, Chandigarh. The patient, Karamjeet Kaur, belonging to Riond Khurd village of Budhlada tehsil in Mansa district, bordering Rattia town in Fatehabad district of Haryana, is wife of Krishan Singh, who had recently died, suspectedly of plague.
The rat bhagwan is angry again, and his wrath has fallen on the khatri heartland. I hope he gets a billion times more angry that he is right now and we won`t have an Indo-Pak problem, or an over-population problem at the global level.
This was SameerJB style humor, so I hope Indians and Pakistani progressives have enjoyed it!
Posted by
ali1
Feb 25, 2002 11:51 am
Interesting new itemPlague-like infection reported in Punjab
TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2002 12:13:39 AM ]
HISAR:Hisar Civil Hospital, on Friday, sent a patient suffering from suspected plague to PGI, Chandigarh. The patient, Karamjeet Kaur, belonging to Riond Khurd village of Budhlada tehsil in Mansa district, bordering Rattia town in Fatehabad district of Haryana, is wife of Krishan Singh, who had recently died, suspectedly of plague.
The rat bhagwan is angry again, and his wrath has fallen on the khatri heartland. I hope he gets a billion times more angry that he is right now and we won`t have an Indo-Pak problem, or an over-population problem at the global level.
This was SameerJB style humor, so I hope Indians and Pakistani progressives have enjoyed it!
Tattoo diary: Queens, New York
[mohajirs are not exactly known for their masculinity are they??]
So you don`t know who broke the chastity belt? Any you guys suspected the chamars all along?
Posted by
ali1
Feb 25, 2002 11:51 am
Reply # 53 Stuka[mohajirs are not exactly known for their masculinity are they??]
So you don`t know who broke the chastity belt? Any you guys suspected the chamars all along?
Tattoo diary: Queens, New York
[Dear Stuka . . . Ali1 had and has already lost credibility with interactors of both sides, so it really doesn`t matter what he says anymore.]
Funny you talk of credibility veeresh. Remember the day Quran was burnt in Delhi? A certain mofo swore by his mother`s ashes that he has been out in the city, and has talked to the police and to the high and mighty of the city, and that no such incident had taken place? (How could it, in secular India?) And then someone posted the URL of the incident actually taking place.
Remember who that person was veeresh? care commenting on HIS credibility?
As for the interactors on chowk, I frankly dont give a flying guck to the hypocrites who enjoy SameerJB`s sick sense of humor and consider him the greatest Punjabi since the one-eyed bustard.
As for my exchanges with Stuka, had the best of my ``humor`` been posted by chowk editors, Stuka would have hung himself with one of the chastity belts lying in his house.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 25, 2002 11:51 am
Reply # 78 veeresh[Dear Stuka . . . Ali1 had and has already lost credibility with interactors of both sides, so it really doesn`t matter what he says anymore.]
Funny you talk of credibility veeresh. Remember the day Quran was burnt in Delhi? A certain mofo swore by his mother`s ashes that he has been out in the city, and has talked to the police and to the high and mighty of the city, and that no such incident had taken place? (How could it, in secular India?) And then someone posted the URL of the incident actually taking place.
Remember who that person was veeresh? care commenting on HIS credibility?
As for the interactors on chowk, I frankly dont give a flying guck to the hypocrites who enjoy SameerJB`s sick sense of humor and consider him the greatest Punjabi since the one-eyed bustard.
As for my exchanges with Stuka, had the best of my ``humor`` been posted by chowk editors, Stuka would have hung himself with one of the chastity belts lying in his house.
Tattoo diary: Queens, New York
[What about the Mohajirs? The ones in Karachi? Do their mothers actually have dicks?]
No. Quite unlike the khatri moms of dehli.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 21, 2002 01:01 pm
Reply # 26 Stuka[What about the Mohajirs? The ones in Karachi? Do their mothers actually have dicks?]
No. Quite unlike the khatri moms of dehli.
Tattoo diary: Queens, New York
[In Delhi they would say... `` Maa da Lun??? Oh, must be the mother of Ali#1 ``]
Please dont assume all mothers to be like your own mother. No wonder you dad buys chastity belts by the dozen.......... but we still have you.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 21, 2002 01:01 pm
Reply # 26 Stuka[In Delhi they would say... `` Maa da Lun??? Oh, must be the mother of Ali#1 ``]
Please dont assume all mothers to be like your own mother. No wonder you dad buys chastity belts by the dozen.......... but we still have you.
Tattoo diary: Queens, New York
[``South Asia ki maan ko lun.``]
This shows burger upbringing. A real Pakistani would say it like this:
In Karachi: ``South Asia ki maaN ko lund``
In Lahore: ``South Asia di maa nu lun``
In Rawalpindi: ``South Asia ni mau aaN lun marya``
In Peshawar: They do it to the fathers in Peshawar, and I don`t know the Pashto for that.
Live and learn.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 20, 2002 03:02 pm
Reply # 2 ylh[``South Asia ki maan ko lun.``]
This shows burger upbringing. A real Pakistani would say it like this:
In Karachi: ``South Asia ki maaN ko lund``
In Lahore: ``South Asia di maa nu lun``
In Rawalpindi: ``South Asia ni mau aaN lun marya``
In Peshawar: They do it to the fathers in Peshawar, and I don`t know the Pashto for that.
Live and learn.
Sex & The Country
rsridhar
[``i often go to this excellent restaurant called ``Khyber Pass``. It is owned by a Pakistani but he advertises his restaurant as a place that offers the best Indian Cuisine``]
Clever guy. Makes some money out of dumbass desh premis, who otherwise would only spend their money at updupi.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 20, 2002 11:01 am
How can I get some Indian porn flicks in the US? I would be interested in one depciting the devdasi culture and ethos.rsridhar
[``i often go to this excellent restaurant called ``Khyber Pass``. It is owned by a Pakistani but he advertises his restaurant as a place that offers the best Indian Cuisine``]
Clever guy. Makes some money out of dumbass desh premis, who otherwise would only spend their money at updupi.
An Interview with Noam Chomsky
As compared with Mr. Chomsky, me and my dog Nehru are more relevant to the American political and intellectual discourse.
Posted by
ali1
Feb 20, 2002 11:01 am
Mashhood,As compared with Mr. Chomsky, me and my dog Nehru are more relevant to the American political and intellectual discourse.
Strategic Depth at Home
Here is some more news to gladden your black heart.
http://www.dawn.com/2002/02/20/top14.htm (52 Pakistani pilgrims dead)
Why am I the only one who has condemned this black hearted scoundrel? All I hear from the resident chowk hypocrites is ``Great Article Sameer``, ``You are an emancipator of Pakistani women Sameer``, ``TooN PunjabiaN di shaan hain Sameer``.
Can all of you Indians and ``South Asians`` who have nothing but praise for SameerJB read this link and tell me if you know of another person who is more evil and filled with more hate than this demon?
http://chowk.com/bin/showr.cgi?f=harpreet_feb1102&n=30#reply75
Posted by
ali1
Feb 20, 2002 11:01 am
SameerJB,Here is some more news to gladden your black heart.
http://www.dawn.com/2002/02/20/top14.htm (52 Pakistani pilgrims dead)
Why am I the only one who has condemned this black hearted scoundrel? All I hear from the resident chowk hypocrites is ``Great Article Sameer``, ``You are an emancipator of Pakistani women Sameer``, ``TooN PunjabiaN di shaan hain Sameer``.
Can all of you Indians and ``South Asians`` who have nothing but praise for SameerJB read this link and tell me if you know of another person who is more evil and filled with more hate than this demon?
http://chowk.com/bin/showr.cgi?f=harpreet_feb1102&n=30#reply75
Ha Ha To the Axis of Evil Speech
[``Unlike what Musharraf says our loyalties lie with Islam first THEN with Pakistan (or any other country)... As Iqbal said our identity is because of ISLAM...qawm (Islami) millat se hai...``]
Naqashbandi bhai sahab,
I beg to differ. Islam is a great religion with one and a quarter billion followers and will survive and prosper with or without Pakistan. But Pakistanis will be gucked without Pakistan.
If you have any doubts, just look at the treatment of Palestinians at the hands of the ummah.... those who have lived in Saudi for 50+ years live on resident visas stamped on Egyptian ``travelling documents``; no Gulf country gives them even a visit visa; they travel from Cairo to Gaza under armed escort... etc. etc.
I dont see anything wrong with Musharraf`s Pakistan first slogan. You can imagine how the ``Ummah`` will treat the miskeen Bakistanis in case there is no Bakistan!
Posted by
ali1
Feb 20, 2002 11:01 am
Naqashbandi # 53[``Unlike what Musharraf says our loyalties lie with Islam first THEN with Pakistan (or any other country)... As Iqbal said our identity is because of ISLAM...qawm (Islami) millat se hai...``]
Naqashbandi bhai sahab,
I beg to differ. Islam is a great religion with one and a quarter billion followers and will survive and prosper with or without Pakistan. But Pakistanis will be gucked without Pakistan.
If you have any doubts, just look at the treatment of Palestinians at the hands of the ummah.... those who have lived in Saudi for 50+ years live on resident visas stamped on Egyptian ``travelling documents``; no Gulf country gives them even a visit visa; they travel from Cairo to Gaza under armed escort... etc. etc.
I dont see anything wrong with Musharraf`s Pakistan first slogan. You can imagine how the ``Ummah`` will treat the miskeen Bakistanis in case there is no Bakistan!
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