Patthar Ka Sheher (City of Stone)
[``sham ko Khan saheb ke kaam aata hai yehi paththar``]
LOL... I am so tempted to write ``Punjabi patthar``.... later
Posted by
ali1
Jan 25, 2002 05:19 pm
SameerJB # 4[``sham ko Khan saheb ke kaam aata hai yehi paththar``]
LOL... I am so tempted to write ``Punjabi patthar``.... later
A 24 Minute Journey Between Paddington and Slough
[``Hello Northern California CHOWK readers! How about journeying to Sacramento this weekend? Peace Rally in Sacramento on January 25``]
Hello Ras Siddiqui, how about relaxing a bit. There will be NO war. India will dare not attack Pakistan.
Pakistanis with Jello filled knees, begging for peace in Bumfuk Idaho and Sacramento California give a very distorted picture of our country.... whose peaceful and resolute people are always ready to remind the banya of his real place in the scheme of things; if he dares to forget. He won`t though, don`t worry.
Pista, badaam, kaju and chilgoza are supposed to cure the knees.
Have a great weekend.
Posted by
ali1
Jan 25, 2002 05:19 pm
Reply #: 9 Ras Siddiqui[``Hello Northern California CHOWK readers! How about journeying to Sacramento this weekend? Peace Rally in Sacramento on January 25``]
Hello Ras Siddiqui, how about relaxing a bit. There will be NO war. India will dare not attack Pakistan.
Pakistanis with Jello filled knees, begging for peace in Bumfuk Idaho and Sacramento California give a very distorted picture of our country.... whose peaceful and resolute people are always ready to remind the banya of his real place in the scheme of things; if he dares to forget. He won`t though, don`t worry.
Pista, badaam, kaju and chilgoza are supposed to cure the knees.
Have a great weekend.
Is Thackeray a Terrorist?
I dislike the guy very much... but a true leader of India like Thackaray should remain there,
Posted by
ali1
Jan 25, 2002 05:19 pm
Thackaray represents Hindu aspirations. He says what an average Hindu feels. He gives voice to the rage of 1 billion Hindus.I dislike the guy very much... but a true leader of India like Thackaray should remain there,
Is Thackeray a Terrorist?
[``Jidhar dekhta hoon, udhar tu hi tu hai.``]
?????
andhairay mein tu hai, ujalooN mein tu hai
savairay mein tu aur shaa-mooN mein tu hai
daftar mein tu hai, bistar mein tu hai
jidhar sooNghta hoon, udhar tu hi tu hai
jisko voh perfume samajhta tha ubtek,
asl mein purani jurabooN ki bu hai.
Reply # 192 scout
[stop it, mujhe sharam aati hai]
sharam karo, itni 3rd class shairee se impress ho gaeeN?
Posted by
ali1
Jan 25, 2002 05:19 pm
Reply # 47 Prem[``Jidhar dekhta hoon, udhar tu hi tu hai.``]
?????
andhairay mein tu hai, ujalooN mein tu hai
savairay mein tu aur shaa-mooN mein tu hai
daftar mein tu hai, bistar mein tu hai
jidhar sooNghta hoon, udhar tu hi tu hai
jisko voh perfume samajhta tha ubtek,
asl mein purani jurabooN ki bu hai.
Reply # 192 scout
[stop it, mujhe sharam aati hai]
sharam karo, itni 3rd class shairee se impress ho gaeeN?
Is Thackeray a Terrorist?
But seriously, I have heard that Rutgers is a nest of Islamists and people like YLH do a great service to Pakistan by standing up to them, although this assasination thingy sounds a bit exaggerated.
Posted by
ali1
Jan 23, 2002 06:12 pm
I read on a Rutgers board that the Islamic terrorists tried to assasinate YLH by slapping him on the face and our brave Kemalist responded by crying... the real one that is, with tears, sobs and shrieks.But seriously, I have heard that Rutgers is a nest of Islamists and people like YLH do a great service to Pakistan by standing up to them, although this assasination thingy sounds a bit exaggerated.
An Indian salute for President Musharraf
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Bali Reddy`s Restuarant chain in N. Cali served the best South Indian meat. Unfortunately the vice squad got him and he is closed now.
Posted by
ali1
Jan 18, 2002 01:50 pm
On the West coast, the best masala dosas, uduppis, kiddilles, guduppas and other misc. South Indian delicacies are served by my dog, whenever he has diarrhea._______________________________________________
Bali Reddy`s Restuarant chain in N. Cali served the best South Indian meat. Unfortunately the vice squad got him and he is closed now.
The Identity Crisis of a Modern Muslim
I can explain the Lohri festival for you but the chowk editors wont let it through
Posted by
ali1
Jan 18, 2002 11:43 am
tahmed321, I can explain the Lohri festival for you but the chowk editors wont let it through
The Identity Crisis of a Modern Muslim
[`Zafar My champion, but who will save you?`]
hobbyty, you know what, the Indian constitution will save him, a copy of which he carries at all times... `never leave home without it... gauranteed safety for Indian minorities`.
You see, when shiv senaiks will set his islamic arse on fire, he will thump it with the constitution to put out the flames. When he gets arrested under POTO (with his al qaida sounding name and all) he will make a paper airplane from the constitution and fly to freedom from Tihar jail.
Dont leave home without it!
Posted by
ali1
Jan 18, 2002 11:43 am
hobbyty # 52 [`Zafar My champion, but who will save you?`]
hobbyty, you know what, the Indian constitution will save him, a copy of which he carries at all times... `never leave home without it... gauranteed safety for Indian minorities`.
You see, when shiv senaiks will set his islamic arse on fire, he will thump it with the constitution to put out the flames. When he gets arrested under POTO (with his al qaida sounding name and all) he will make a paper airplane from the constitution and fly to freedom from Tihar jail.
Dont leave home without it!
The King’s Gambit: Chapter 2 (The Soldier)
Great going so far. Most of your posts are longer than this, so might as well submit larger chunks of your novel.
also
Rafi Quereshi sounds like Safi Quereshi, is this intentional?
Including San Rafeal is stretching Silicon valley too far.
[``Yet this small piece of land is the engine driving the whole US economy.``]
Duh!? Did you write this before 3/2000? which is when I sold my M3 and Vinod Khosla his Lamborghini and went into hiding from his investors. Smell the coffee dude, or do you still order your groceries from Webvan?
Posted by
ali1
Jan 16, 2002 12:21 pm
Romair,Great going so far. Most of your posts are longer than this, so might as well submit larger chunks of your novel.
also
Rafi Quereshi sounds like Safi Quereshi, is this intentional?
Including San Rafeal is stretching Silicon valley too far.
[``Yet this small piece of land is the engine driving the whole US economy.``]
Duh!? Did you write this before 3/2000? which is when I sold my M3 and Vinod Khosla his Lamborghini and went into hiding from his investors. Smell the coffee dude, or do you still order your groceries from Webvan?
A Mathematical Genius
[``It is painful to see this word Muhammad with Gill and without any Singh.``]
GSCheema, like most of us Pakistanis, Muhammad is confused about his identity (see Anwar Iqbal`s article) and has forgotten his Punjabi heritage and ancestoral religion. Please forgive him.
Muhammad Gill, apna naaN badal yaar, veekh te sahi, sardar ji di dhui vich mirch lagaN-dai ay.
Posted by
ali1
Jan 16, 2002 12:21 pm
Reply # 1 GSCheema[``It is painful to see this word Muhammad with Gill and without any Singh.``]
GSCheema, like most of us Pakistanis, Muhammad is confused about his identity (see Anwar Iqbal`s article) and has forgotten his Punjabi heritage and ancestoral religion. Please forgive him.
Muhammad Gill, apna naaN badal yaar, veekh te sahi, sardar ji di dhui vich mirch lagaN-dai ay.
The Identity Crisis of a Modern Muslim
[``fond of women and Jim Beam Bourbon, Ghalib and Meer.``]
bada gora saab mosli bhool gaya? OK, call it sushi, lekin bhool to gaya na!
Posted by
ali1
Jan 16, 2002 12:21 pm
Reply # 31 sigalph235[``fond of women and Jim Beam Bourbon, Ghalib and Meer.``]
bada gora saab mosli bhool gaya? OK, call it sushi, lekin bhool to gaya na!
The Identity Crisis of a Modern Muslim
Two absolute falsifications in this post:
One, pre-partition Punjab, like pre-partition United India was an unnatural creation of the Brits. Historically, it has always been the provinces of Multan and Lahore (and a few princely states) and what is now being promoted as Punjabi culture/language is Lahori culture/language at best. Most of the Sufi poetry is in Multani/Seraiki and not Punjabi. Punjab didn`t exist in the time of these Sufi poets who are now being promoted as symbols of Punjab.
Two, the Hindu-Muslim-Sikh bhai bhai BS in pre-partition Punjab is a cruel fabrication. Religious identity was extremely strong in Punjab which lead to the widespread adoption of Urdu by Muslim Punjabis and Hindi by Hindu Punjabis.
No other ethnic group in India butchered its own like (Hindu and Silkh) Punjabis did during partition. Thousands of Muslim Punjabi women were paraded naked in Jullender by Sikhs, at least 30 trains arrived at Wagah without a single Muslim alive, only dead bodies of men and children and mutilated bodies of women.... chopping off breasts and pulling fetuses form the uterus is a Sikh/Punjabi specialty it seems.... the list is endless. The ``midnight madness`` excuse put forward by the ``scholars`` of Amrita Preetam variety is just that, a pathetic excuse. The animosities that were hidden within came out into the open.
Even post-partition, we see mostly Punjabi Hindu mobs kill 3000 Sikhs in a few hours in Delhi.
Now these idiots want to celebrate Lohri with Punjabis in Pakistan, and exchange Gurdas Mann and Arif Lohar cassettes. No other ethnic group in India suffers from such delusions and amnesia. Thankfully, most children of the panahgirs from Amritsar, Jullendar, Ferozepur and Hoshiarpur are happy and proud to be Pakistanis and don`t give a flying guck to their ethnic kin from across the border.
Posted by
ali1
Jan 16, 2002 12:21 pm
SameerJB # 41Two absolute falsifications in this post:
One, pre-partition Punjab, like pre-partition United India was an unnatural creation of the Brits. Historically, it has always been the provinces of Multan and Lahore (and a few princely states) and what is now being promoted as Punjabi culture/language is Lahori culture/language at best. Most of the Sufi poetry is in Multani/Seraiki and not Punjabi. Punjab didn`t exist in the time of these Sufi poets who are now being promoted as symbols of Punjab.
Two, the Hindu-Muslim-Sikh bhai bhai BS in pre-partition Punjab is a cruel fabrication. Religious identity was extremely strong in Punjab which lead to the widespread adoption of Urdu by Muslim Punjabis and Hindi by Hindu Punjabis.
No other ethnic group in India butchered its own like (Hindu and Silkh) Punjabis did during partition. Thousands of Muslim Punjabi women were paraded naked in Jullender by Sikhs, at least 30 trains arrived at Wagah without a single Muslim alive, only dead bodies of men and children and mutilated bodies of women.... chopping off breasts and pulling fetuses form the uterus is a Sikh/Punjabi specialty it seems.... the list is endless. The ``midnight madness`` excuse put forward by the ``scholars`` of Amrita Preetam variety is just that, a pathetic excuse. The animosities that were hidden within came out into the open.
Even post-partition, we see mostly Punjabi Hindu mobs kill 3000 Sikhs in a few hours in Delhi.
Now these idiots want to celebrate Lohri with Punjabis in Pakistan, and exchange Gurdas Mann and Arif Lohar cassettes. No other ethnic group in India suffers from such delusions and amnesia. Thankfully, most children of the panahgirs from Amritsar, Jullendar, Ferozepur and Hoshiarpur are happy and proud to be Pakistanis and don`t give a flying guck to their ethnic kin from across the border.
The Identity Crisis of a Modern Muslim
Brilliant, eloquent, beautiful, powerful.
[``Islam does not bind peoples, images of 6000 year old dancing girl does.
Pakistan has multiple ethnic and religious influences, ergo: it is Indian (culturally)
Pakistan is overwhelmingly Muslim and displays an affinity towards Muslims, therefore: it is Indian.
Sufis preached all over Islamia, including what is now Pakistan and India, therefore; Pakistani identity is Indian (culturally)
Kashmir does not run in our blood, but indian does.
Pakistanis love to watch Indian movies, therefore they are Indian (culturally) - that they love to watch American movies, of course does not make them Americans - that`s faulty reasoning.
Pakistan that was created 54 years ago, the same as India - is not valid, but India is.
Pakistani idenity is actually the lack of identity, because it acknowledges an identity, not exclusively Indian.
If massing tyroops on our borders, threatening nuclear anihilation was not enough - well, we`ll getcha with culture. either way, your A$$ is grass, you`ll be an Indian or nothing (culturally)``]
Posted by
ali1
Jan 16, 2002 12:21 pm
Reply # 13 hobbytyBrilliant, eloquent, beautiful, powerful.
[``Islam does not bind peoples, images of 6000 year old dancing girl does.
Pakistan has multiple ethnic and religious influences, ergo: it is Indian (culturally)
Pakistan is overwhelmingly Muslim and displays an affinity towards Muslims, therefore: it is Indian.
Sufis preached all over Islamia, including what is now Pakistan and India, therefore; Pakistani identity is Indian (culturally)
Kashmir does not run in our blood, but indian does.
Pakistanis love to watch Indian movies, therefore they are Indian (culturally) - that they love to watch American movies, of course does not make them Americans - that`s faulty reasoning.
Pakistan that was created 54 years ago, the same as India - is not valid, but India is.
Pakistani idenity is actually the lack of identity, because it acknowledges an identity, not exclusively Indian.
If massing tyroops on our borders, threatening nuclear anihilation was not enough - well, we`ll getcha with culture. either way, your A$$ is grass, you`ll be an Indian or nothing (culturally)``]
America’s Responsibility
hejazi baaNg sir aankhoN par, but this sounds like a Najadi baaNg to me, whats this with the kafir and bida`ti labels... and you know where the horns of the Satan will rise from.
Will check out The Untamed.
Posted by
ali1
Jan 16, 2002 12:21 pm
Afaqui # 365hejazi baaNg sir aankhoN par, but this sounds like a Najadi baaNg to me, whats this with the kafir and bida`ti labels... and you know where the horns of the Satan will rise from.
Will check out The Untamed.
America’s Responsibility
[``ali,
btw, what`s the translation of ``kukkar`` , ``cheekan`` and ``ainveen``? I assume its Punjabi, not my language...``]
dekhaiN ji, jab taleem yafta log guftugu karaiN to johala ko khamosh ho jana chahiyay.
kukkar=murgha
cheekan=Punjabi plural of ``cheekh``
ainveen=bila-wajah, khamakhaw
hope this helps
Posted by
ali1
Jan 16, 2002 12:21 pm
Reply # 370 saminashah[``ali,
btw, what`s the translation of ``kukkar`` , ``cheekan`` and ``ainveen``? I assume its Punjabi, not my language...``]
dekhaiN ji, jab taleem yafta log guftugu karaiN to johala ko khamosh ho jana chahiyay.
kukkar=murgha
cheekan=Punjabi plural of ``cheekh``
ainveen=bila-wajah, khamakhaw
hope this helps
The Identity Crisis of a Modern Muslim
Posted by
ali1
Jan 15, 2002 03:17 pm
who can read this longass article.
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