Dissing Ideologies [“Who exactly are these morons who claim to lead us? Who put them in charge? And more importantly, how is it that they can threaten to wage war on my behalf? “]

Zia, this outright dishonesty. The Pakistani leadership despite being morons is NOT threatening to wage war. They are just promising to respond if attacked. Is that wrong? Pakistani leadership has been restrained and dignified in its responses to the rabid bellicosity of Bagpipe and co. While Bagpipe has threatened a decisive war against Pakistan, we have just “threatened” do defend ourselves. Would a sovereign state do otherwise?

[“The macho, schoolyard-bully act that is apparent on both sides of the border smacks of the patriarchal pit that is sub-continental society.”]

Do you think that your lies will become truths if repeated enough times? The only schoolyard bully act that is apparent is from the Indian side: Bagpipe, Advani and Fernandes are the shoolyardyard bullies. Pakistani response has been calm and measured.

[“This principled stand comes from a state that can technically stone a woman to death for getting herself raped, or hang people for either proclaiming or deriding some mumbo-jumbo in Arabic. Not to mention our own sordid history of the rape and butchery of countless Bengali innocents.”]

This is a pathetic attempt at obfuscation. So Pakistan should alter its stand on Kashmir because of its internal mess and historical misdeeds? Do we have a bigger mess than Indian Gujurat? Have we committed worse crimes than the Indian state sponsored massacres of Muslims and Sikhs? Hmmm….. lets see how India changes its foreign policy because of its own internal problems and past misdoings.

[“And my last exercise in a mosque (Eid prayers 2000) was done in full view of a Kalashinkov wielding gent proclaiming liberation from a poster”]

Zia, I read an NYT article recently which deplored the tendency of some British Pakistanis who presented their moral degeneracy (alcohol, gambling etc.) as a proof of their Westernization and integration into the British society. Whether you pray or not is your own business. Whom are you trying to impress with this disclosure?

[“If saving ``innocent Muslim people`` (Kashmiri or otherwise) is really our intention, consider the following. The infant mortality rate in Pakistan stubbornly clings to the low 80`s (83.3/1,000 births in 2001).”]

Another pathetic attempt at obfuscation. Can you please explain how infant mortality will go down if Pakistan accepts Kashmir as an integral part of India?

[“Ironically enough, this number is remarkably close to the total number of deaths attributed to ``Indian brutalities against the innocent Muslim people of Kashmir`` over more than a decade.”]

So we should condone Indian brutalities because the number of people killed is the same as Pakistani infants who die at child birth?

[“All this for what, you ask? Something called the two-nation theory which, as every upright schoolchild knows, asserts that ``Muslims are entirely separate people from Hindus in every respect... [they] form an ideological community with divine guidance for every field of human life. Fine and dandy, except that Bhayeea was unable to discover an original source, despite much research.]

Instead of asking your Bhayeea, who seems to be as much of an idiot as other members of your family, maybe you should check with Ehsan Jaffery’s widow, who from the burns ward of Ahmedabad civil hospital might tell you that that atleast Gujurati Hindus and Muslims are entirely separate people.

[“Undefeated by the tragedy of 1971, the theory commands much ideological respect in both elitist and ordinary circles.”]

The tragedy of 1971 strengthened rather than defeat the TNT. See, it proved that Bengali Hindus and Bengali Muslims are entirely different people who CANNOT co-exist in the Hindu majority India. Zia, maybe the “elitist and ordinary circles” have more brains than you and your family. Think about it.

[“The slums of Bombay are indistinguishable from those of Karachi. In that at least, the two nations stand united.”]

Jhoot again. Orangi Town, the largest slum in Pakistan, thanks to Akhter Hameed Khan has running water, covered sewerage and paved streets. Closer maybe to some upscale localities of Bombay.

[“Bhayeea used to keep a running total of Kashmiri shaheeds as reported by PTV. The precise number eludes me now, but by last year, it sure seemed like a fair percentage of Kashmiris were enjoying the hospitality of either houris or the Indian army.”]

This is pathetic and below the belt. Seems like you, Bhayeea, Ammi and Abby have nothing better to do than making fun of Kashmiri Shaheeds who are fighting to protect their life and honor. Zia, wouldn’t you, your Abby and your Bhayeea prefer to “enjoy the hospitality of houris” if you were a Kashmiri and your Ammi was one of the 15000 Kashmiri women raped by the Indians? Maybe not. Maybe you would ask the Indian NHRC or a Justice Srikrishna commission to help you out.

I am Ashamed and I Apologize Mr. Varma, bagal mein churri aur mu mein ram ram??

Just that the churri shows from time to time:

[I believe that the Ram temple should be built in Ayodhya, and the Kashi and Mathura temples should be handed over to Hindus.]

and

[The continuing and stiff resistance by the Muslim community to these ``demands`` is allowing the VHP and its friends to assume a position of injured pride which is slowly sanctifying their militancy and threats to violence]

So the logic is as follows: that Indian muslims should either hand over the mosques to Mr. Varma or he will unleash Fido (VHP). It is unfortunate that even though Mr. Varma is a decent and soft spoken gentelman, Fido is a vicious and half crazy pit bull who loves to munch on the Muslim bhuna gosht a la Gujurat. So Indian muslims pls. take your pick!!

All I can say is that Pakistanis should be grateful to Mr. Jinnah who created Pakistan which protects us from both Mr. Varma and his pet dog Fido. To Indian Muslims I say, Hey! Khassi Bakras, its time to stop bleating and start fighting back. The only way to beat a bully is by standing up to him. Tell Mr. Varma and Fido to go hump their cows.

The Perfect Murder Hello Hindus,

It seems like your leaders have let you down once again. They took you up the hill and left you high and dry. Like Fernandas says, infiltration continues unabated. Mush the boneless chicken will not and even if he wants to cannot stop Kashmiris from crossing LOC to protect their kin from the Occupation Army. The whole world knows that. India can huff and puff and turn itself blue in the face, but the world is slowly realizing that these castrated eunuchs can`t fight.

Tell me, did the borrowed nukes and missles scare you? C`mon guys, what happened to the decisive war that India was supposed to win? I was hoping for a limited attack on Kashmir at least :(

From Pakistan`s point of view, infiltration is good, since we get rid of the mullahs and out of control Jehadis and India has to keep 700K dhor-dangars under arms in Kashmir. I hope that Mush the boneless chicken keeps it this way unless he wants to fight the maulanas himself.

Refugees of A Refugee Camp I am getting sick of both the Palestinians and the Israelis; and of Pakistanis who have nothing better to do than worry about them.

The Perfect Murder Seems like Mush is growing a backbone. Amazing!

Of Violent Birth and Peaceful Death saminashah, oye, whats your problem with my ethnicity?

Of Violent Birth and Peaceful Death Reply # 40 tahmed321 and Reply # 51

hamidm

tahmed321 and hamidm:

tahmed311: [Having dragged the two countries into the brink of war with their continued terrorism, the mullahs have now stepped down as war seems imminent.]

hamidm: [and both are mad at the crazy mullahs for getting them into this silly jihad]

So the Colonel-zadas blame the mullahs for the mess..... amazing..... I mean Subhanallah! Is it selective amnesia or is it deceit? Is dishonesty a congenital birth defect among the progeny of Fauji Khandaans? We will let people decide.

Lets give you the benefit of doubt. Let me try to jog your memories:

- Mullahs were a non entity in Pakistani politics until the Army recruited them for Afghan war.

- Mullahs had no role in Kashmir insurgency until the Army brought them on board after unnecessarily ditching JKLF.

- After 911 when it became obvious that mullah led insurgencies were no longer acceptable to the world, Army failed to come up with a clear cut alternative or an exit strategy.

So stop blaming the mullahs and ask your fathers, borthers, cousins and other memebers of your Fauji families who are sitting on their arses in WAPDA, PIA and Askari Bank to run to the border and face the enemy.

[Looks like war may be around the corner: Vajpayee to Indian troops: ``Let`s work for victory. Be prepared for sacrifices. But our aim should be victory. Because it`s now time for a decisive fight.``]

tahmed, I told you in Dec/Jan and I`m telling you now, THERE WILL BE NO WAR. Get it? (I even gave a vazeefa for you to recite, what did you do with that?) We should ask Bagpipe to tone down his rhetoric since it scares the khassi bakras on our side.

The Last Crusade Reply # 348 rsridhar

[We have seen lots of testosterone from Mushy. Let us see some action.]

Actually, Mushy has been calm so far, its Bagpipe and other Hindu monkeys who are shaking with rage in their dhotis. Bagpipe has never married so we cant be too sure about his testosterone level, or whether he has ovaries or gonads or just vaccum in there.

If you want action than you will have to start it dude. But the cowardly dhoti clads that you are, I expect all talk and no action. Like the proverbial whore who cries rape and threatens that her pimp will beat the hell out of her alleged molesters.

[It is highly unlikely that China will come to Pak`s rescue.]

We don`t need China to rescue us from your Mig 21`s that have been cleared to fly now. Dont go near banks in Ludhiana. What a pathetic joke.

[``The next war will be decisive in India`s favor.``]

Yeah sure. Why not start it then? What has stopped you? in December or now?

[``If i were a Paki, i would be praying to Allah for mercy.``]

Pakis like other humans pray to their God for mercy all the time. You like other Hindutva monkeys have several choices: you can pray to your lingum bhagwan, your rat bhagwan or your cow/bull bhagwan.

Of Violent Birth and Peaceful Death Lone is the third Kashmiri leader martyred by Indians after Maqbool Butt Shaheed and Mirwaiz Mohammed Farooq Shaheed. I think Geelani is the next in line. We Pakistanis hope these murders will strengthen the Kashmiri resolve to fight on for freedom.

READ THIS:

http://headlines.sify.com/884news1.html

Now, Lone`s son blames Farooq for murder

New Delhi, May 22

Hurriyat leader Abdul Gani Lone`s son Sajjad Lone on Wednesday retracted his earlier statement holding Pakistan`s ISI responsible for his father`s killing and blamed Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah for the murder.

``It is too early to blame anybody,`` he told Star News in an interview. About his earlier statement, Sajjad said, ``It was an emotional outburst... anybody in my place would have lost his cool. It is not easy.``

With so many agencies, both from India and Pakistan, working in the state, it was difficult to say who was behind the attack, he said.

``My earlier statement was not backed by any factual information,`` Sajjad added.

Blaming Abdullah, he said the security of the senior Hurriyat leader had been reduced barely two months ago by the state government despite persistent threats to his life.

``Dr Abdullah, who reduced my father`s security, knew very well that there was a risk to his life.``

``As it is, there always are risks in Kashmir and, knowing his bold stand it was more so for my father,`` Sajjad said.

``Our house was attacked twice and on both occasions the authorities said it was stage-managed,`` he added.

The Last Crusade Reply #: 317 rsridhar

[The following paragraphs are of interest to Indians and should be of concern to Pakistanis:

It is rumoured the government is making discreet enquiries to locate suitable retired armed forces officers to act as administrators for major Pakistani cities like Lahore, Islamabad etc in case these have to be administered by us after

capture.]

What should be of concern to Indians is that their rabid Hindu leadership and its lapdog media has been able to drive Hindutva monkeys like sridhar to a state of delusional frenzy where they believe that a war could possibly end in the capture of Pakistani cities!!

In this self induced state of frenzy, Indians like rabid pye dogs can only bark and chase their own tails. Sorry sridhar, Pakistan is out of your reach. And please don`t start biting Indian muslims like you did in Gujurat.

[So, the supreme Muhajir turned Supreme Whore has now mangaged to steer his benighted nation towards a disastrous situation.]

Actually, the benighted nation thinks that the Supreme Whore is too soft on India.

[Pakistanis will live to regret the day when they believed this Whore can do them or their country any good.]

Chill out dude. Is it hyper acidity thats causing you discomfort? Pop a couple of Tums, or better still, fix the root cause and replace cow urine with cow milk at your breakfast table.

The Last Crusade Reply #: 317 rsridhar

[The following paragraphs are of interest to Indians and should be of concern to Pakistanis:

It is rumoured the government is making discreet enquiries to locate suitable retired armed forces officers to act as administrators for major Pakistani cities like Lahore, Islamabad etc in case these have to be administered by us after

capture.]

What should be of concern to Indians is that their rabid Hindu leadership and its lapdog media has been able to drive Hindutva monkeys like sridhar to a state of delusional frenzy where they believe that a war could possibly end in the capture of Pakistani cities!!

In this self induced state of frenzy, Indians like rabid pye dogs can only bark and chase their own tails. Sorry sridhar, Pakistan is out of your reach. And please don`t start biting Indian muslims like you did in Gujurat.

[So, the supreme Muhajir turned Supreme Whore has now mangaged to steer his benighted nation towards a disastrous situation.]

Actually, the benighted nation thinks that the Supreme Whore is too soft on India.

[Pakistanis will live to regret the day when they believed this Whore can do them or their country any good.]

Chill out dude. Is it hyper acidity thats causing you discomfort? Pop a couple of Tums, or better still, fix the root cause and replace cow urine with cow milk at your breakfast table.

The Last Crusade Reply # 320 babu

[``Lone`s son has different views.``]

Babu, Lone`s son has changed his views. Also, I think Rajiv Chandrasekaran was thrown out of Pakistan for good reason.

http://headlines.sify.com/884news1.html

Now, Lone`s son blames Farooq for murder

``It is too early to blame anybody,`` he told Star News in an interview. About his earlier statement, Sajjad said, ``It was an emotional outburst... anybody in my place would have lost his cool. It is not easy.``

With so many agencies, both from India and Pakistan, working in the state, it was difficult to say who was behind the attack, he said.

``My earlier statement was not backed by any factual information,`` Sajjad added.

The April Fool Referendum Asma Jehangir pushes her political agenda in the guise of championing Human Rights and like all 3rd rate Pakistani politicians, she has inherited her agenda from her father at whose house the infamous 6 points of Awami League were drafted... the agenda is none other than the weakening and the eventual destruction of the Federation of Pakistan.

Another One Bites The Dust saminashah,

There is absolutely no law in Pakistan that prohibits dancing by women or dancing women.

The cultural wing of the Pakistan International Airlines, which is owned by the Govt. of Pakistan employs several troupes consisting mostly of beautiful women who dance the traditional Pakistani dances, Bhangra, Luddi, Jhoomar, Balouchi, Makrani, Khattak etc. all over the world and in Pakistan. The monkey dance that Ms. Krimani dances has no cultural basis in Pakistan and has no roots among any of the Pakistani ethnic groups. Of course Indians and South Asianists have every right to appreciate and perform this dance whenever they feel like, while eating, sleeping, defacating, or while immersed in the Ganga cesspool.... BUT PAKISTANIS COULDN`T CARE LESS.

For the South Asianists and other Indian cretin, it wouldn`t be a bad idea to bring their ugly samosafied rearsides to Lasbela and watch Balouch men and women dance to celebrate mundane things like the victory of their favorite donkey cart in the 3 mile race. No one told the Balouchis about the law that only Sheema Kirmani and Samina Shah know about.

[``I don`t have time to baby you (ylh).``]

Bhaag Hamdani Bhaag!

The Last Crusade Zeemax # 16

[The Palestinian suicide attacks are morally correct and those kids are `Shaheed` for all knowing Muslims who believe in Qura`an. Qura`an clearly says `Slay them who drove you out from your homes. But do not transgress. If they fight you, then fight them; but if they stop fighting do not slay them.`]

Zeemax sahib, I don`t agree that its permissible for Msulims to ``slay`` non-combatant women and children of their enemy which has been happening in the Palestinian struggle. Please correct me if I am wrong, with references if possible.

The Last Crusade Instead of cursing the Pals, Pakistanis should learn from them. Pals have courted and gotten support from people as diverse as Islamists, Jehadists, feminists/tranvestites, secularists and so many more, as evidenced from this website. Truely amazing. Kashmiris/Pakistanis should do the same.