An Equal Reaction
[``it makes it even more obvious the TNT-minded have absolutely no stake in the safety of Indian Muslims``]
It is also obvious that Indian muslims are hostages held to political ransom by the Hindus. e.g. ``Think about the consequences for Indian muslims before asking for Kashmir``.
Oh, and thanks for not calling us Pukistanis, didi.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 25, 2002 10:54 pm
Reply # 303 sadna[``it makes it even more obvious the TNT-minded have absolutely no stake in the safety of Indian Muslims``]
It is also obvious that Indian muslims are hostages held to political ransom by the Hindus. e.g. ``Think about the consequences for Indian muslims before asking for Kashmir``.
Oh, and thanks for not calling us Pukistanis, didi.
An Equal Reaction
[``Pakistanis killed 1.5 million Muslims (a conservative estimate, actual toll may have been much higher) in 1971 in the space of 9 months.``]
Uncle Tom Sigalph will thump your head with a dead fish (sor pe mosli marega) if he finds out that you have reduced the toll by 50%.
Personally, I think Pakistani Army did overstep its mandate in fighting the Mukti Bahini terrorists and Indian Army/BSF regulars in their ranks, but these numbers are absurd to say the least.
BTW, what do you say of the Bengladeshis who have allowed ISI to operate against their liberators from their soil? Did you count the number of Pakistani flags in the last Pakistan-India cricket match in Dhaka and compare those with the number of Indian flags (zero as I recall)?
[``Every year, thousands of Muslims are slaughtered in Pakistan in the name of religion.``]
We are aware and ashamed of the fact that we have not been able to catch and punish the Indian, Saudi and Iranian agents who are killing innocent Pakistanis in the name of religion. But it takes some degree of be-ghairti to compare this with India.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 25, 2002 09:36 pm
Reply # 306 tvarad[``Pakistanis killed 1.5 million Muslims (a conservative estimate, actual toll may have been much higher) in 1971 in the space of 9 months.``]
Uncle Tom Sigalph will thump your head with a dead fish (sor pe mosli marega) if he finds out that you have reduced the toll by 50%.
Personally, I think Pakistani Army did overstep its mandate in fighting the Mukti Bahini terrorists and Indian Army/BSF regulars in their ranks, but these numbers are absurd to say the least.
BTW, what do you say of the Bengladeshis who have allowed ISI to operate against their liberators from their soil? Did you count the number of Pakistani flags in the last Pakistan-India cricket match in Dhaka and compare those with the number of Indian flags (zero as I recall)?
[``Every year, thousands of Muslims are slaughtered in Pakistan in the name of religion.``]
We are aware and ashamed of the fact that we have not been able to catch and punish the Indian, Saudi and Iranian agents who are killing innocent Pakistanis in the name of religion. But it takes some degree of be-ghairti to compare this with India.
The Evolution of The Burqa
temporal # 1, hazrat, agar Islam se itni bezari hai to ``barbadi-e-dil jabr nahiN Faiz kisi ka, voh dushman-e-jaaN hai to bhula kyoN nahiN detay``?
Posted by
ali1
Mar 25, 2002 09:17 pm
Haven`t read this one, but anything that can irritate our chala hua kartoos as it did (#1) must be good.temporal # 1, hazrat, agar Islam se itni bezari hai to ``barbadi-e-dil jabr nahiN Faiz kisi ka, voh dushman-e-jaaN hai to bhula kyoN nahiN detay``?
Visit to Krishna-Janam-Bhoomi
Dont worry Mona, the demolition of the mosque in Mathura is also the national will of Indian people very much like the demolition of Babri Mosque. How can the birthplace of krishna be less important than the birthplace of rama? If some mosques are defiling their birthplaces then these must go. If Indian muslims have a problem with the demolition then they must go too! 5000 thousand muslims killed for ayodhya, another 5000 for mathura, hey!! whats the big deal?
The only thing that is troubling me is that since you guys have a million or so gods, and since their birthplaces are surely defiled by mosques or other muslim structures in the vicinity, and since its your national will to restore the sanctity of all the birthplaces.... you will run out of muslims to burn at the rate of 5000 per god`s birthplace.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 25, 2002 08:08 pm
[``When we finally settled back in our cars to go back home, I started feeling very empty, somewhat disappointed at what I have seen there``]Dont worry Mona, the demolition of the mosque in Mathura is also the national will of Indian people very much like the demolition of Babri Mosque. How can the birthplace of krishna be less important than the birthplace of rama? If some mosques are defiling their birthplaces then these must go. If Indian muslims have a problem with the demolition then they must go too! 5000 thousand muslims killed for ayodhya, another 5000 for mathura, hey!! whats the big deal?
The only thing that is troubling me is that since you guys have a million or so gods, and since their birthplaces are surely defiled by mosques or other muslim structures in the vicinity, and since its your national will to restore the sanctity of all the birthplaces.... you will run out of muslims to burn at the rate of 5000 per god`s birthplace.
An Equal Reaction
[``Shouldn`t we rename TNT -- the THREE nation theory taking into account the realities today?``]
TNT is THE reality and Bangledesh is an affirmation rather than a negation of this reality. To me, TNT simply means that Indian Muslims and Hindus are two distinct and separate nations, and the life, property and honor of Indian muslims can never be safe in a dispensation where Hindus are in a majority or control the state apparatus.
[``More seriously, Ayaz Amir is tempted into making that assertion given recent events, however should he not give greater thought to how TNT abandoned all of India`s Muslims to their fate?``]
What do you mean abandon? Pakistani borders were officially open to all Indian Muslims till 1951 and migration continued till 1965. Smarter muslims took the opportunity and moved to Pakistan. Those who did not believe in TNT stayed behind..... and are now reduced to bhuna gosht in Ahmedabad (for example).... not an intelligent decision, don`t you think?
And what do you mean by ``recent events``? The murder, rape and pillage of Indian muslims in the guise of riots is the bedrock of Indian polity. The only difference b/w these riots and the previous ones is that Internet and other mass media has exposed the true face of the Hindu beast. Indian Muslims have known and suffered this beast for 50 years.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 25, 2002 06:35 pm
Reply # 239 shammi[``Shouldn`t we rename TNT -- the THREE nation theory taking into account the realities today?``]
TNT is THE reality and Bangledesh is an affirmation rather than a negation of this reality. To me, TNT simply means that Indian Muslims and Hindus are two distinct and separate nations, and the life, property and honor of Indian muslims can never be safe in a dispensation where Hindus are in a majority or control the state apparatus.
[``More seriously, Ayaz Amir is tempted into making that assertion given recent events, however should he not give greater thought to how TNT abandoned all of India`s Muslims to their fate?``]
What do you mean abandon? Pakistani borders were officially open to all Indian Muslims till 1951 and migration continued till 1965. Smarter muslims took the opportunity and moved to Pakistan. Those who did not believe in TNT stayed behind..... and are now reduced to bhuna gosht in Ahmedabad (for example).... not an intelligent decision, don`t you think?
And what do you mean by ``recent events``? The murder, rape and pillage of Indian muslims in the guise of riots is the bedrock of Indian polity. The only difference b/w these riots and the previous ones is that Internet and other mass media has exposed the true face of the Hindu beast. Indian Muslims have known and suffered this beast for 50 years.
An Equal Reaction
[``They only go nuts and banana when they encounter a decent, progressive, secular Hindu``]
Secular Hindu is an oxymoron. I have my doubts about decent too, and progressive is a label that has been arbitrarily applied in India from the monkey god to Atal Behari Bagpipe. The only Indian muslims who use these words are the ones whose sons/daughters have ended up marrying hindus; others know better, or find out once its too late (Ehsan Jafri for example).
Posted by
ali1
Mar 25, 2002 05:56 pm
nasah [``They only go nuts and banana when they encounter a decent, progressive, secular Hindu``]
Secular Hindu is an oxymoron. I have my doubts about decent too, and progressive is a label that has been arbitrarily applied in India from the monkey god to Atal Behari Bagpipe. The only Indian muslims who use these words are the ones whose sons/daughters have ended up marrying hindus; others know better, or find out once its too late (Ehsan Jafri for example).
We, The Muslim Americans
No doubt PMA Kakul extracts even the pea sized brains of the dimwits who join it.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 25, 2002 02:21 am
What do you call the brainless Pakistanis who pay 15 dollars per month to watch ZTV hurl abuses at their country, religion, heores, values, ethos... everthing they hold dear.... AND THEN write posts on chowk complaining about ZTV. (Hint: Raja something)No doubt PMA Kakul extracts even the pea sized brains of the dimwits who join it.
An Equal Reaction
``If there be people who are inclined to question the genesis of Pakistan, let them take a fresh look at the communal carnage in Indian Gujarat. If anything puts fresh emphasis on the two-nation theory it is the organized massacre of Muslims there.``
hear hear
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm
Posted by
ali1
Mar 23, 2002 04:04 pm
Ayaz Amir`s column this week``If there be people who are inclined to question the genesis of Pakistan, let them take a fresh look at the communal carnage in Indian Gujarat. If anything puts fresh emphasis on the two-nation theory it is the organized massacre of Muslims there.``
hear hear
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm
We, The Muslim Americans
[``What motivates a person to do that to himself? Food for serious thought.``]
http://www.indian-express.com/ie20020323/top1.html
this is the story of how he watched his mother and sister die.
zeemax, maybe this is how suicide bombers are made?
Posted by
ali1
Mar 23, 2002 01:24 pm
RE: # 17 zeemax[``What motivates a person to do that to himself? Food for serious thought.``]
http://www.indian-express.com/ie20020323/top1.html
this is the story of how he watched his mother and sister die.
zeemax, maybe this is how suicide bombers are made?
An Equal Reaction
[``I’m going to start a restaurant and call the it the “Hunood and Munood Beautyparlour and Chain Saw Repair”. We will specialise in parathas.``]
You can also specialize in bhuna musla gosht, musla boti kabab and saalim (whole) musla roast.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 23, 2002 01:24 pm
Reply #: 200 Zafar Al-Talib[``I’m going to start a restaurant and call the it the “Hunood and Munood Beautyparlour and Chain Saw Repair”. We will specialise in parathas.``]
You can also specialize in bhuna musla gosht, musla boti kabab and saalim (whole) musla roast.
An Equal Reaction
[Dost-Mittar # 174 “I wonder however why you or any other Indian Muslims feels the need to identify with this (Ghaznavi) foreign invader.”
``Heheh…``]
Al Talib dude, you should take these questions more seriously these days since your ``security depends upon the goodwill of the majority``.
Part of earning this goodwill is to denounce all foreign ``invaders`` and renounce all ``foreign`` ideologies like Islam, Chirstianity etc. Your reply is inadequate in that respect; you should `ve responded with abusing Islam, Ghaznavi, Pakistan, Ghauri, Khilji, Jinnah etc. etc. Now don`t tell us that Gujarati bhuna gosht is your favorite dish!?!
Pakistanis, note this interaction b/w a Hindu and an Indian Muslim, that too a Gujarati. While the blood of his kith `n kin hasn`t dried in Ahmedabad, he is being asked to explain his position on Mahmud Ghaznavi! India is a living proof of the TNT`s validity.... and thank God for Pakistan.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 23, 2002 01:24 pm
Reply #: 201 Zafar Al-Talib[Dost-Mittar # 174 “I wonder however why you or any other Indian Muslims feels the need to identify with this (Ghaznavi) foreign invader.”
``Heheh…``]
Al Talib dude, you should take these questions more seriously these days since your ``security depends upon the goodwill of the majority``.
Part of earning this goodwill is to denounce all foreign ``invaders`` and renounce all ``foreign`` ideologies like Islam, Chirstianity etc. Your reply is inadequate in that respect; you should `ve responded with abusing Islam, Ghaznavi, Pakistan, Ghauri, Khilji, Jinnah etc. etc. Now don`t tell us that Gujarati bhuna gosht is your favorite dish!?!
Pakistanis, note this interaction b/w a Hindu and an Indian Muslim, that too a Gujarati. While the blood of his kith `n kin hasn`t dried in Ahmedabad, he is being asked to explain his position on Mahmud Ghaznavi! India is a living proof of the TNT`s validity.... and thank God for Pakistan.
Riots
[``...Now it`s become clear that they are FAR from spontaneous, and that the State is involved in them ...``
Yes, now it is quite clear to me, and hopefully to many voters as well. I hope that this realization results in the marginalization of the Hindutva politics, if not the defeat of the BJP.]
On the contrary, BJP will sweep the elections in Gujarat if held today... if most Indian commentators are to be believed. Such is the nature of the intolerant hindu beast. All they (BJP) need to do to win India wide is to conduct this genocide India wide. Simple!
Posted by
ali1
Mar 23, 2002 01:24 pm
Reply # 528 shammi[``...Now it`s become clear that they are FAR from spontaneous, and that the State is involved in them ...``
Yes, now it is quite clear to me, and hopefully to many voters as well. I hope that this realization results in the marginalization of the Hindutva politics, if not the defeat of the BJP.]
On the contrary, BJP will sweep the elections in Gujarat if held today... if most Indian commentators are to be believed. Such is the nature of the intolerant hindu beast. All they (BJP) need to do to win India wide is to conduct this genocide India wide. Simple!
An Equal Reaction
[ATTACK ON SOMNATH TEMPLE
Date: January 8, 1026 Weather: Cold
STRATEGY: Mahmud of Ghazni marched from Multan with 30,000 cavalry and a multitude of volunteers eager for plunder.]
So this is the crapola you Hindus are fed in schools which makes fanatic murderers out of you.
You call this history... Who was eager for plunder? Was it Mahmud? Was it his 30000 cavalry? or was it the volunteers? Was it all of them? How does the author know? How can anyone know what motivated 30000+ men who are dead for 1000 years? (Hint: they left their diaries)
And you believe in this bastardized version of history. But then people who believe in flying elephants and fornicating monkeys can believe in anything.
For you information, Mahmud`s biggest motivation was to liberate the untouchables from the clutches of Hinduism. Indian minorities, specially Dalits and Muslims, need another Mahmud real bad now.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 21, 2002 12:47 pm
Reply # 148 roohi[ATTACK ON SOMNATH TEMPLE
Date: January 8, 1026 Weather: Cold
STRATEGY: Mahmud of Ghazni marched from Multan with 30,000 cavalry and a multitude of volunteers eager for plunder.]
So this is the crapola you Hindus are fed in schools which makes fanatic murderers out of you.
You call this history... Who was eager for plunder? Was it Mahmud? Was it his 30000 cavalry? or was it the volunteers? Was it all of them? How does the author know? How can anyone know what motivated 30000+ men who are dead for 1000 years? (Hint: they left their diaries)
And you believe in this bastardized version of history. But then people who believe in flying elephants and fornicating monkeys can believe in anything.
For you information, Mahmud`s biggest motivation was to liberate the untouchables from the clutches of Hinduism. Indian minorities, specially Dalits and Muslims, need another Mahmud real bad now.
An Equal Reaction
[ATTACK ON SOMNATH TEMPLE
Date: January 8, 1026 Weather: Cold
STRATEGY: Mahmud of Ghazni marched from Multan with 30,000 cavalry and a multitude of volunteers eager for plunder.]
So this is the crapola you Hindus are fed in schools which make fanatic murderers out of you.
You call this history... Who was eager for plunder? Was it Mahmud? Was it his 30000 cavalry? or was it the volunteers? Was it all of them? How does the author know? How can anyone know what motivated 30000+ men who are dead for 1000 years? (Hint: they left their diaries)
And you believe in this bastardized version of history. But then people who believe in flying elephants and fornicating monkeys can believe in anything.
For you information, Mahmud`s biggest motivation was to liberate the untouchables from the clutches of Hinduism. Indian minorities, specially Dalits and Muslims, need another Mahmud real bad now.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 21, 2002 12:47 pm
Reply # 148 roohi[ATTACK ON SOMNATH TEMPLE
Date: January 8, 1026 Weather: Cold
STRATEGY: Mahmud of Ghazni marched from Multan with 30,000 cavalry and a multitude of volunteers eager for plunder.]
So this is the crapola you Hindus are fed in schools which make fanatic murderers out of you.
You call this history... Who was eager for plunder? Was it Mahmud? Was it his 30000 cavalry? or was it the volunteers? Was it all of them? How does the author know? How can anyone know what motivated 30000+ men who are dead for 1000 years? (Hint: they left their diaries)
And you believe in this bastardized version of history. But then people who believe in flying elephants and fornicating monkeys can believe in anything.
For you information, Mahmud`s biggest motivation was to liberate the untouchables from the clutches of Hinduism. Indian minorities, specially Dalits and Muslims, need another Mahmud real bad now.
An Equal Reaction
Hindu Mob Sets Fire to Mosques in Northern India
By Geetinder Garewal
CHANDIGARH, India (Reuters) - A Hindu mob torched Muslim mosques and shops in northern India Sunday amid continuing violence in the country`s western Gujarat province.
Police in the northern state of Haryana said about 300 people surrounded the house of a Muslim family following rumors it had slaughtered a cow, an animal Hindus regard as sacred.
Not finding the family at home, the mob torched two nearby mosques and three Muslim shops, an official in the police control room in Luharu town of Haryana`s Bhiwani district said.
``The situation is now under control and there was no loss of life,`` Rajpal Singh, Bhiwani`s senior superintendent of police, told Reuters.
Police said they did not find any evidence of an animal`s slaughter at the site and the rumor appeared aimed at stirring trouble in the town, some 250 km (156 miles) south of Chandigarh, Haryana`s capital city.
A police official said the stone mosques were partially burned but not completely destroyed.
Posted by
ali1
Mar 17, 2002 06:27 pm
Thanks God for Pakistan. At least we can eat our beef in peace. In the Hindu Republic of India, it seems like the evil Hindu religion prescribes death for muslims who are ``rumored`` to have eaten beef.Hindu Mob Sets Fire to Mosques in Northern India
By Geetinder Garewal
CHANDIGARH, India (Reuters) - A Hindu mob torched Muslim mosques and shops in northern India Sunday amid continuing violence in the country`s western Gujarat province.
Police in the northern state of Haryana said about 300 people surrounded the house of a Muslim family following rumors it had slaughtered a cow, an animal Hindus regard as sacred.
Not finding the family at home, the mob torched two nearby mosques and three Muslim shops, an official in the police control room in Luharu town of Haryana`s Bhiwani district said.
``The situation is now under control and there was no loss of life,`` Rajpal Singh, Bhiwani`s senior superintendent of police, told Reuters.
Police said they did not find any evidence of an animal`s slaughter at the site and the rumor appeared aimed at stirring trouble in the town, some 250 km (156 miles) south of Chandigarh, Haryana`s capital city.
A police official said the stone mosques were partially burned but not completely destroyed.
An Equal Reaction
Can someone also please take a look at the intolerant, bigoted and inhuman religion of Hinduism/Brahminism which is the root cause of violence and discord in the Indian subcontinent?
Posted by
ali1
Mar 16, 2002 05:02 pm
Blame it on the VHP, blame it on the filthy politicians, blame it on the BJP, blame it on Narendra Modi, blame it on the local police, blame it on muslims??? Blame it on education (hobyty)?Can someone also please take a look at the intolerant, bigoted and inhuman religion of Hinduism/Brahminism which is the root cause of violence and discord in the Indian subcontinent?
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