The Real Jehad
#128
HAMIDM
[``....... i am inclined to believe my drinking buddy, sunil, who says, `` they are all a bunch of bas%#ds - on your side as well as mine `` ....... i guess we deserve each other ........... ``]
Is sunil for real or your delerium tremens setting in? You wouldnt know whether your fingers were twitching from alcoholism or extra pyramidal symtoms of parkinsonism.
Or is there some sort of gay relationship between you & Sunil,in that case ofcourse nothin matters UIndia Pakistan,Hindu ,muslim, Straight,Gay ....
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 23, 2001 10:42 am
#128
HAMIDM
[``....... i am inclined to believe my drinking buddy, sunil, who says, `` they are all a bunch of bas%#ds - on your side as well as mine `` ....... i guess we deserve each other ........... ``]
Is sunil for real or your delerium tremens setting in? You wouldnt know whether your fingers were twitching from alcoholism or extra pyramidal symtoms of parkinsonism.
Or is there some sort of gay relationship between you & Sunil,in that case ofcourse nothin matters UIndia Pakistan,Hindu ,muslim, Straight,Gay ....
A Pakistani School’s Visit to India
Date
- Wednesday, , 2001
Friends and Allies
The Syrian Vice President Abd al-Halim Khaddam wound up his two-day visit
to Tehran on Wednesday. During his stay, Khaddam held talks with Iranian
officials on bilateral ties as well as the latest developments in the
region.
With regard to the current political situation in the Middle East,
Khaddam`s visit was of great significance. In fact, Syria along with
Lebanon, is in frontline of the struggle against the hegemonic policies of
the Zionist regime in the occupied lands.
The Israeli government under Sharon`s direction has recently increased its
pressure on both Syria and Lebanon in addition to continuing its
aggression against the Palestinian people.
However, the Syrian and Lebanese authorities have stood up to Israel
pressures and continue to strengthen their anti-Zionist stance for the
support of the Palestinian cause.
Within the framework of its principled policies and ideals, the Islamic
Republic of Iran considers the support to Muslims` rights, especially
those of oppressed Palestinian nation, an irrefutable basis of its foreign
policy.
Therefore, one of the most important aspects of Khaddam`s visit to Tehran
is the renewed emphasis during his meetings with Iranian officials on the
two countries` common viewpoints and their strong stance vis--vis the
hegemonic policies of the Zionist regime in the region.
Despite the political pressures exerted by the U.S. and the Zionist
regime, Iran and Syria have had a great role in frustrating the Israeli
plots in the past two decades.
In fact, one of the significant aspects of Tehran-Damascus cooperation is
its impact on the Middle East developments and strengthening of the stance
so far taken by Muslim countries against the Zionist regime. The Syrian
and Iranian officials further discussed enhancement of bilateral economic
ties as one of the strong pillars of Tehran-Damascus cooperation.
Concerning the new intimidation of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
aimed to provoke Syria and Lebanon to wage a war in the region, it is not
improbable that in order to increase the unprecedented pressure on Islamic
world, the Zionist regime is trying to create a new adventure.
With regard to this fact, close consultations between the Muslim
countries, exchange of visits, coordination in their stance and
cautiousness about the increasing threats of Tel Aviv are of great
importance.
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 22, 2001 10:08 pm
Subj: Friends and Allies Date
- Wednesday, , 2001
Friends and Allies
The Syrian Vice President Abd al-Halim Khaddam wound up his two-day visit
to Tehran on Wednesday. During his stay, Khaddam held talks with Iranian
officials on bilateral ties as well as the latest developments in the
region.
With regard to the current political situation in the Middle East,
Khaddam`s visit was of great significance. In fact, Syria along with
Lebanon, is in frontline of the struggle against the hegemonic policies of
the Zionist regime in the occupied lands.
The Israeli government under Sharon`s direction has recently increased its
pressure on both Syria and Lebanon in addition to continuing its
aggression against the Palestinian people.
However, the Syrian and Lebanese authorities have stood up to Israel
pressures and continue to strengthen their anti-Zionist stance for the
support of the Palestinian cause.
Within the framework of its principled policies and ideals, the Islamic
Republic of Iran considers the support to Muslims` rights, especially
those of oppressed Palestinian nation, an irrefutable basis of its foreign
policy.
Therefore, one of the most important aspects of Khaddam`s visit to Tehran
is the renewed emphasis during his meetings with Iranian officials on the
two countries` common viewpoints and their strong stance vis--vis the
hegemonic policies of the Zionist regime in the region.
Despite the political pressures exerted by the U.S. and the Zionist
regime, Iran and Syria have had a great role in frustrating the Israeli
plots in the past two decades.
In fact, one of the significant aspects of Tehran-Damascus cooperation is
its impact on the Middle East developments and strengthening of the stance
so far taken by Muslim countries against the Zionist regime. The Syrian
and Iranian officials further discussed enhancement of bilateral economic
ties as one of the strong pillars of Tehran-Damascus cooperation.
Concerning the new intimidation of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
aimed to provoke Syria and Lebanon to wage a war in the region, it is not
improbable that in order to increase the unprecedented pressure on Islamic
world, the Zionist regime is trying to create a new adventure.
With regard to this fact, close consultations between the Muslim
countries, exchange of visits, coordination in their stance and
cautiousness about the increasing threats of Tel Aviv are of great
importance.
Ideas and Identities Melt Here
#: 33
Gowardhan
nasah
:``Feel free to criticize any Hindu practice cruel to animals and non animals. Tradition can go to hell. I wont want anyone knifing me because of their tradition.``]
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANIMAL & HUMANBEING!!
but still i also support as much love towards people as we do towards some of our animal pets & also kindness towards Animals that we have human rights for our selves.
Im Non Vegeterian & proud of it .I believe god created food chain both in jungles & Cities.
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 22, 2001 04:28 pm
#: 33
Gowardhan
nasah
:``Feel free to criticize any Hindu practice cruel to animals and non animals. Tradition can go to hell. I wont want anyone knifing me because of their tradition.``]
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANIMAL & HUMANBEING!!
but still i also support as much love towards people as we do towards some of our animal pets & also kindness towards Animals that we have human rights for our selves.
Im Non Vegeterian & proud of it .I believe god created food chain both in jungles & Cities.
A Pakistani School’s Visit to India
``[MaheshG......Why did Jinnah`s daughter opt to stay back in India? Did she somehow realize that her father was off his rocker?``]
Prodigal Daughter .Are you sure your sons & daughters will turn out to be thankful obedient devoted thankfull `aulads`
Probably NOT ,specially if you are dharmik,desi sentimental ,k.l. saigal listening type & your daughter Zeenat Aman in Hare Ram Hare Krishna type who will also blow your dollar on some commune ``trying to DISCOVER her self , after you have blown a fortune in giving her college education of every thing under the sun except you couldnt convince her that sooner or later all women are VICTIM of some man ,somewhere.
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 22, 2001 01:44 am
Reply #: 424 ``[MaheshG......Why did Jinnah`s daughter opt to stay back in India? Did she somehow realize that her father was off his rocker?``]
Prodigal Daughter .Are you sure your sons & daughters will turn out to be thankful obedient devoted thankfull `aulads`
Probably NOT ,specially if you are dharmik,desi sentimental ,k.l. saigal listening type & your daughter Zeenat Aman in Hare Ram Hare Krishna type who will also blow your dollar on some commune ``trying to DISCOVER her self , after you have blown a fortune in giving her college education of every thing under the sun except you couldnt convince her that sooner or later all women are VICTIM of some man ,somewhere.
Chowk, Jay, a Ditch and I
Embrace Islam, SIMI advises Advani
Press Trust of India
New Delhi, August 20: The Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), against which the government is contemplating imposing a ban for its anti-national activities, on Monday sought to defend itself saying it was not preaching enmity against other communities but only calling them towards Islam.
“SIMI do not preach enmity against other communities but call them towards Islam,” said a SIMI statement issued at a press conference in Delhi.
“We even call L.K. Advani to embrace Islam, the statement signed by SIMI press secretary Shahbaz Hussain said.
Reacting to the government`s charges that SIMI’s activists were involved in anti-national and terrorist activities in the country, he charged that Advani “himself led the rath yatra in 1991 leaving behind a trail of death and destruction.”
Reacting to demands by various state governments for ban on SIMI, he added that these “have become tools in the hands of the saffron brigade”.
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Aug 20, 2001 10:45 am
Embrace Islam, SIMI advises Advani
Press Trust of India
New Delhi, August 20: The Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), against which the government is contemplating imposing a ban for its anti-national activities, on Monday sought to defend itself saying it was not preaching enmity against other communities but only calling them towards Islam.
“SIMI do not preach enmity against other communities but call them towards Islam,” said a SIMI statement issued at a press conference in Delhi.
“We even call L.K. Advani to embrace Islam, the statement signed by SIMI press secretary Shahbaz Hussain said.
Reacting to the government`s charges that SIMI’s activists were involved in anti-national and terrorist activities in the country, he charged that Advani “himself led the rath yatra in 1991 leaving behind a trail of death and destruction.”
Reacting to demands by various state governments for ban on SIMI, he added that these “have become tools in the hands of the saffron brigade”.
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Wear burqa or face attacks: militants to Kashmiri women
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VHP to recruit 30 lakh youth for “struggle”
Ten policemen killed in landmine blast in AP
Eighteen elephants poisoned in Assam
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My Sahib
Injustice Anywhere is THREAT to justice Everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Srikrishna Report indicts 31 police officers
Sanjay Singh
Monday, August 20, 2001 (Mumbai):
Mumbai`s communal riots of December 1992 and the January 1993 bomb blasts have scarred the city forever. Not surprisingly, those responsible are yet to be brought to book.
Last week, after nine years, the Mumbai police arrested their former police commissioner Ramdeo Tyagi and 17 former officers in connection with the killings in the Suleiman Bakery. Subsequent to these arrests, the Maharashtra government has now given the assurance that justice will be done. Speaking to NDTV, Minister of State for Home, Kripa Shankar has said that the Srikrishna Commission Report looking into the riots will be implemented in a time span of two months.
For many like Abdulla Kasim`s family, who live on Mohammed Ali Road, the scars of the 1993 riots are still fresh. It is in these areas that the city`s police force, turned on the people, instead of protecting them.
Thirty-one police officers have been indicted in the report, but no action has begun against 14 of them. The report recommended reopening of 1365 cases. Only five cases have so far been reopened. Less than 50 people have received compensation from the government. Another 85 are waiting for their compensation.
Though the Special Task Force has taken some initiatives to implement the recommendations of the Srikrishna Commission Report, these initiatives lack political will. Human rights activists say that both the law and the court order are the real strength behind the task force`s recent actions. However, the focus now has shifted to the results of these recent arrests as it has taken the authorities nine years to even start the process of justice.
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 20, 2001 10:45 am
Justice Delayed is Justice Denied !!!!!!!!!!!!Injustice Anywhere is THREAT to justice Everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Srikrishna Report indicts 31 police officers
Sanjay Singh
Monday, August 20, 2001 (Mumbai):
Mumbai`s communal riots of December 1992 and the January 1993 bomb blasts have scarred the city forever. Not surprisingly, those responsible are yet to be brought to book.
Last week, after nine years, the Mumbai police arrested their former police commissioner Ramdeo Tyagi and 17 former officers in connection with the killings in the Suleiman Bakery. Subsequent to these arrests, the Maharashtra government has now given the assurance that justice will be done. Speaking to NDTV, Minister of State for Home, Kripa Shankar has said that the Srikrishna Commission Report looking into the riots will be implemented in a time span of two months.
For many like Abdulla Kasim`s family, who live on Mohammed Ali Road, the scars of the 1993 riots are still fresh. It is in these areas that the city`s police force, turned on the people, instead of protecting them.
Thirty-one police officers have been indicted in the report, but no action has begun against 14 of them. The report recommended reopening of 1365 cases. Only five cases have so far been reopened. Less than 50 people have received compensation from the government. Another 85 are waiting for their compensation.
Though the Special Task Force has taken some initiatives to implement the recommendations of the Srikrishna Commission Report, these initiatives lack political will. Human rights activists say that both the law and the court order are the real strength behind the task force`s recent actions. However, the focus now has shifted to the results of these recent arrests as it has taken the authorities nine years to even start the process of justice.
The Virgin Bride
Do i look like stupid or the indians are owefully dumb.My 10 yr old brother ,hardy boys playing slueth could solve this murder in one afternoon play ,but then why the country of Kiran Bedi ,Indira Gandhi,Sonia Gandhi Priyanka & Maneka Gandhi exist in a schizophrenic state of women movement when Arundhati Roy celebrated by the world still remains gagged very much like Bharti Barot ,yet equal the world in parrot like answer at the miss universe /world pageant.To fool even the less than intelligent celebrity judges.
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Hindu girl, 19, commits suicide after marrying Muslim
Bharti Barot, a 19-year-old girl who had embraced Islam to get married to one Salim Shaikh from the same area in Sabarmati of Ahmedabad, reportedly set herself ablaze at the Hindu Mahasabha office in the city`s Raipur area on Thursday afternoon.
But mystery shrouds her death, as police are confused about how Bharti managed to get kerosene at the Hindu Mahasabha office, even as Mahasabha activists including President Dashrath Patel were present at the time.
Even her parents, who had taken Bharti to the Mahasabha for ``counselling``, pleaded ignorance about her committing suicide.
Bharti was in love with Salim, who hails from the Bakra Mandi area of Sabarmati, for the last few years, despite strong objection from her parents.
She was apparently tortured mentally and physically several times by her parents for moving around with Salim, but to no avail.
On July 11, she eloped with Salim without saying anything to her parents, converted to Islam and got married in a local mosque before finally registering the marriage in a city court.
The very next day, she sent their marriage documents to her parents by post, while Salim did the same.
``On July 12, her father Kanubhai Barot lodged a complaint of illegal confinement against Salim with us and we started search operations,`` said Inspector of Sabarmati police station, P S Mehra.
She was found on August 6 and police took her to Sabarmati police station from where she was sent to the Women`s Home in Odhav, run by the state government.
``But surprisingly, her parents managed to get her from the Home without any instructions from us or any court order, which is something queer,`` Mehra said.
Bharti was then brought to the Hindu Mahasabha office in Raipur by her parents for a ``purification`` (Shuddhikaran) ceremony that was supposed to take place on Thursday afternoon in the presence of Mahasabha activists and Dashrath Patel.
``Before the function, she was asked by Dashrath to take a bath in the Mahasabha office bathroom, where she ultimately set herself ablaze,`` said DCP (zone-III), R D Makadiya.
When asked about how Bharti had managed to get kerosene and matchsticks in the bathroom of the Mahasabha office, Makadiya only said: ``We have to check.``
Local residents, however, said they did not hear any screaming or smell anything burning. Police are suspicious as the area where the Mahasabha office is located is very crowded.
``We will find out after the forensic examination and post mortem report,`` said Makadiya.
Meanwhile, her father, Kanubhai, known as a VHP activist, showed no remorse over the incident. ``She did it as per her own will,`` he said.
Secretary of VHP, Karnavati city, Jaideep Patel said: ``Perhaps she committed suicide because of tortures by the Muslim boy and his friends. Muslims here have been creating lot of problems with Hindu girls.``
But, he declined from adding more about the incident, saying: ``We are acquiring details.``
Khadia police has also registered a case following the ``suicide``, city police sources said. The Commissioner of Police, P C Pande, also visited the spot on Thursday evening.
The dead body of the victim has been sent for post mortem, police sources said.
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 11, 2001 06:19 am
When a poor bride fails to bring lottery ticket dowry ,she conveniently put to death & written off as committed suicide,WHEN A HINDU GIRL MARRIES A MUSLIM BOY ,SHE ALSO SETS HERSELF TO FIRE OF ALL PLACESES COMMUNALIST ORGANIZATION HINDU MAHASABHA OFFICE !!Do i look like stupid or the indians are owefully dumb.My 10 yr old brother ,hardy boys playing slueth could solve this murder in one afternoon play ,but then why the country of Kiran Bedi ,Indira Gandhi,Sonia Gandhi Priyanka & Maneka Gandhi exist in a schizophrenic state of women movement when Arundhati Roy celebrated by the world still remains gagged very much like Bharti Barot ,yet equal the world in parrot like answer at the miss universe /world pageant.To fool even the less than intelligent celebrity judges.
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INDIA
Hindu girl, 19, commits suicide after marrying Muslim
Bharti Barot, a 19-year-old girl who had embraced Islam to get married to one Salim Shaikh from the same area in Sabarmati of Ahmedabad, reportedly set herself ablaze at the Hindu Mahasabha office in the city`s Raipur area on Thursday afternoon.
But mystery shrouds her death, as police are confused about how Bharti managed to get kerosene at the Hindu Mahasabha office, even as Mahasabha activists including President Dashrath Patel were present at the time.
Even her parents, who had taken Bharti to the Mahasabha for ``counselling``, pleaded ignorance about her committing suicide.
Bharti was in love with Salim, who hails from the Bakra Mandi area of Sabarmati, for the last few years, despite strong objection from her parents.
She was apparently tortured mentally and physically several times by her parents for moving around with Salim, but to no avail.
On July 11, she eloped with Salim without saying anything to her parents, converted to Islam and got married in a local mosque before finally registering the marriage in a city court.
The very next day, she sent their marriage documents to her parents by post, while Salim did the same.
``On July 12, her father Kanubhai Barot lodged a complaint of illegal confinement against Salim with us and we started search operations,`` said Inspector of Sabarmati police station, P S Mehra.
She was found on August 6 and police took her to Sabarmati police station from where she was sent to the Women`s Home in Odhav, run by the state government.
``But surprisingly, her parents managed to get her from the Home without any instructions from us or any court order, which is something queer,`` Mehra said.
Bharti was then brought to the Hindu Mahasabha office in Raipur by her parents for a ``purification`` (Shuddhikaran) ceremony that was supposed to take place on Thursday afternoon in the presence of Mahasabha activists and Dashrath Patel.
``Before the function, she was asked by Dashrath to take a bath in the Mahasabha office bathroom, where she ultimately set herself ablaze,`` said DCP (zone-III), R D Makadiya.
When asked about how Bharti had managed to get kerosene and matchsticks in the bathroom of the Mahasabha office, Makadiya only said: ``We have to check.``
Local residents, however, said they did not hear any screaming or smell anything burning. Police are suspicious as the area where the Mahasabha office is located is very crowded.
``We will find out after the forensic examination and post mortem report,`` said Makadiya.
Meanwhile, her father, Kanubhai, known as a VHP activist, showed no remorse over the incident. ``She did it as per her own will,`` he said.
Secretary of VHP, Karnavati city, Jaideep Patel said: ``Perhaps she committed suicide because of tortures by the Muslim boy and his friends. Muslims here have been creating lot of problems with Hindu girls.``
But, he declined from adding more about the incident, saying: ``We are acquiring details.``
Khadia police has also registered a case following the ``suicide``, city police sources said. The Commissioner of Police, P C Pande, also visited the spot on Thursday evening.
The dead body of the victim has been sent for post mortem, police sources said.
A Feminist Icon: Phoolan
saminashah
arzana,
``Either by being crushed underfoot or being or being put on a pedestal (the safest place to keep a woman on a leash)``]
Sisters,
Dont fall into trap of self pity ,delusion of persecution & helplessness.
apni duniya AAp paida kar agar tu zindoh meine hai
Neither get crushed nor be put on a pedestal untill you have volunteered in full consciousness.
Khadija was boss of business.Fatima was in battlefield so was Aisha,So what happened in between.
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 9, 2001 06:08 am
Reply #: 102 saminashah
arzana,
``Either by being crushed underfoot or being or being put on a pedestal (the safest place to keep a woman on a leash)``]
Sisters,
Dont fall into trap of self pity ,delusion of persecution & helplessness.
apni duniya AAp paida kar agar tu zindoh meine hai
Neither get crushed nor be put on a pedestal untill you have volunteered in full consciousness.
Khadija was boss of business.Fatima was in battlefield so was Aisha,So what happened in between.
The Virgin Bride
saminashah
Bijli
Please provide the text to support your statement that I referred to or wrote about the topics you detailed in one of your first responses to this article.
Do you know how many Samina & Samia are ? Many .
Besides its not you .You never wrote a Chowk article that was published as you stated in one of your posts before.You are Saminashah ,AFIK,& not Samina for my reference .
If you go through the last 6-8 months articles you will find such articles one too many for me to even reember .Probably they are puropswely putto generate cheap increased traffic on chowk.
What else do you need to declaim a libel suit against me !
P.S. You & Zafar will make good team.Mutual admiration one
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 8, 2001 10:12 pm
#: 67 saminashah
Bijli
Please provide the text to support your statement that I referred to or wrote about the topics you detailed in one of your first responses to this article.
Do you know how many Samina & Samia are ? Many .
Besides its not you .You never wrote a Chowk article that was published as you stated in one of your posts before.You are Saminashah ,AFIK,& not Samina for my reference .
If you go through the last 6-8 months articles you will find such articles one too many for me to even reember .Probably they are puropswely putto generate cheap increased traffic on chowk.
What else do you need to declaim a libel suit against me !
P.S. You & Zafar will make good team.Mutual admiration one
A Feminist Icon: Phoolan
Zafar Al-Talib
Reply Bijli #88``
Conspiracy theories abound.But some are routine ,not shocking or as upsetting rather the uninevitabley acceptable.Who is shocked that politicians are on ther payroll of bootleggers ,smugglers (haji mastan mirza) & absconders(Dawod) &harshad mehta,Bharat Shah etc etc. What else is new.If you still need more proof & convincing then keep reading ,i`ve had enough.
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 8, 2001 03:05 pm
Reply #: 92 Zafar Al-Talib
Reply Bijli #88``
Conspiracy theories abound.But some are routine ,not shocking or as upsetting rather the uninevitabley acceptable.Who is shocked that politicians are on ther payroll of bootleggers ,smugglers (haji mastan mirza) & absconders(Dawod) &harshad mehta,Bharat Shah etc etc. What else is new.If you still need more proof & convincing then keep reading ,i`ve had enough.
Why I am leaving
PM
RSaxena and Scout:``
Patrick,
By 400 ? do i have to wait till then???
Rotfl wsee...ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 8, 2001 01:53 am
``#: 152 PM
RSaxena and Scout:``
Patrick,
By 400 ? do i have to wait till then???
Rotfl wsee...ha ha ha ha ha
The Virgin Bride
princes
``It`s such a shame that guys and girls like this exist...they short-change themselves in the long-term, for the short-term.``
Knowing the world ,just helps you to be ware ,prepared & choosy.Even the worse statistics show 50% high school girls in America to be virgin.Its not like there arent good charactered unlike Mubeenas ,are in minority .
I hate girls who lose there virginity just to make a statement against boys who are flirteceous.God does not punish them with conception,god has not saddled them with breast that starts lactating & law doesnt require them to nurse the result of such indescrition.If you want to fight against nature be my guest.
..``Unfortunately, where does that leave a person like me? I`m ``scared`` to chose a muslim wife, because i`d be crushed to find out she was unfaithful although I was. And here I was saving myself for a muslimah, when there are many non-Muslims with more discipline/ religiousity/ commonsense who I`ve bypassed! In that sense, the latter are far more ``muslim``...
I`m not really shocked though...Allah rewards everyone fairly in the end. But I can see the tragedy unfolding..``
No need to panic.We are still talking about ,you couldnt just pick blindly any muslim girl & expect her to be muslimah.The virtuous one are still in majority ,if you follow your religous directive .No dowry,be fair & just .Carry your responsibility accirding to sunnah & as you said dont follow the ``western``` broken system of family life .
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 8, 2001 01:14 am
Reply #: 49 princes
``It`s such a shame that guys and girls like this exist...they short-change themselves in the long-term, for the short-term.``
Knowing the world ,just helps you to be ware ,prepared & choosy.Even the worse statistics show 50% high school girls in America to be virgin.Its not like there arent good charactered unlike Mubeenas ,are in minority .
I hate girls who lose there virginity just to make a statement against boys who are flirteceous.God does not punish them with conception,god has not saddled them with breast that starts lactating & law doesnt require them to nurse the result of such indescrition.If you want to fight against nature be my guest.
..``Unfortunately, where does that leave a person like me? I`m ``scared`` to chose a muslim wife, because i`d be crushed to find out she was unfaithful although I was. And here I was saving myself for a muslimah, when there are many non-Muslims with more discipline/ religiousity/ commonsense who I`ve bypassed! In that sense, the latter are far more ``muslim``...
I`m not really shocked though...Allah rewards everyone fairly in the end. But I can see the tragedy unfolding..``
No need to panic.We are still talking about ,you couldnt just pick blindly any muslim girl & expect her to be muslimah.The virtuous one are still in majority ,if you follow your religous directive .No dowry,be fair & just .Carry your responsibility accirding to sunnah & as you said dont follow the ``western``` broken system of family life .
A Feminist Icon: Phoolan
sadna
WE dont want Kennedy Assasination type commission,secrecy & movies ,FBI ,CIA theory ,Castro connection & finally ,`real killer is still alive `-type of elaboration.Let Phoolan devibe bad for you ,Farzana, and any other indians
& then she will be a Bandit BUT Queen for many feminist ,freedom fighters ,antiracism,anticasteism,Bas -har baat ke Hindi Ke CHINDI nikalne nahi hai .It is`NT that important !
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 6, 2001 11:00 pm
#: 86 sadna
WE dont want Kennedy Assasination type commission,secrecy & movies ,FBI ,CIA theory ,Castro connection & finally ,`real killer is still alive `-type of elaboration.Let Phoolan devibe bad for you ,Farzana, and any other indians
& then she will be a Bandit BUT Queen for many feminist ,freedom fighters ,antiracism,anticasteism,Bas -har baat ke Hindi Ke CHINDI nikalne nahi hai .It is`NT that important !
The Virgin Bride
What about abstenence ,if Pakistan learns fron the west ,then there are stricter Catholic schools than grammar schools of Pakistan ,or abstence as a viable possibility is already being actively practiced in mormon of utah,many roman catholic groups etc.etc.
My last question would be to young Nafisa, & quiet few other writers like Zehra & Samina ,who have also delved with sexually explicit subjects including watching porno & masterbating..WHY ?Isnt some topics left for private conversation.Is it that young girls who want to write only know to use there sexuality in daily life as also in everything including writing.Is the mind contain nothing else than raging hormones?.
Biologically it is still possible to be NOT sexually active at 17 or more ,the proof of which is how behaviour has changed even in permissive society since the stark reality of AIDs .Teen pregnancy ,NOT TO SPEAK OF HUDOOD law of pakistan.
So do what ever you want ,dont blame/or justify through the west or scietific progress ,what is essentially moral degradation & not any progress or advancement ,no matter how many pAkistanis manage to get here by various means.
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Bijli
Aug 6, 2001 09:00 am
The author is a woman,so it cant be wild imagination of preadolescence.To blame it on upper class or Convent education is hiding somthing.I dont think a rich family is necessarily more sexually promiscuous than a lower income one.In fact if push comes to shove ,it can be argued that poor families can be enticed with material more .What about abstenence ,if Pakistan learns fron the west ,then there are stricter Catholic schools than grammar schools of Pakistan ,or abstence as a viable possibility is already being actively practiced in mormon of utah,many roman catholic groups etc.etc.
My last question would be to young Nafisa, & quiet few other writers like Zehra & Samina ,who have also delved with sexually explicit subjects including watching porno & masterbating..WHY ?Isnt some topics left for private conversation.Is it that young girls who want to write only know to use there sexuality in daily life as also in everything including writing.Is the mind contain nothing else than raging hormones?.
Biologically it is still possible to be NOT sexually active at 17 or more ,the proof of which is how behaviour has changed even in permissive society since the stark reality of AIDs .Teen pregnancy ,NOT TO SPEAK OF HUDOOD law of pakistan.
So do what ever you want ,dont blame/or justify through the west or scietific progress ,what is essentially moral degradation & not any progress or advancement ,no matter how many pAkistanis manage to get here by various means.
The Virgin Bride
What about abstenence ,if Pakistan learns fron the west ,then there are stricter Catholic schools than grammar schools of Pakistan ,or abstence as a viable possibility is already being actively practiced in mormon of utah,many roman catholic groups etc.etc.
My last question would be to young Nafisa, & quiet few other writers like Zehra & Samina ,who have also delved with sexually explicit subjects including watching porno & masterbating..WHY ?Isnt some topics left for private conversation.Is it that young girls who want to write only know to use there sexuality in daily life as also in everything including writing.Is the mind contain nothing else than raging hormones.
Biologically it is still possible to be NOT sexually active at 17 or more ,the proof of which is how behaviour has changed even in permissive society since the stark reality of AIDs .Teen pregnancy ,NOT TO SPEAK OF HUDOOD law of pakistan.
So do what ever you want ,dont blame/or justify through the west or scietific progress ,what is essentially moral degradation & not any progress or advancement ,no matter how many pAkistanis manage to get here by various means.
Posted by
Bijli
Aug 6, 2001 09:00 am
The author is a woman,so it cant be wild imagination of preadolescence.To blame it on upper class or Convent education is hiding somthing.I dont think a rich family is necessarily more sexually promiscuous than a lower income one.In fact if push comes to shove ,it can be argued that poor families can be enticed with material more .What about abstenence ,if Pakistan learns fron the west ,then there are stricter Catholic schools than grammar schools of Pakistan ,or abstence as a viable possibility is already being actively practiced in mormon of utah,many roman catholic groups etc.etc.
My last question would be to young Nafisa, & quiet few other writers like Zehra & Samina ,who have also delved with sexually explicit subjects including watching porno & masterbating..WHY ?Isnt some topics left for private conversation.Is it that young girls who want to write only know to use there sexuality in daily life as also in everything including writing.Is the mind contain nothing else than raging hormones.
Biologically it is still possible to be NOT sexually active at 17 or more ,the proof of which is how behaviour has changed even in permissive society since the stark reality of AIDs .Teen pregnancy ,NOT TO SPEAK OF HUDOOD law of pakistan.
So do what ever you want ,dont blame/or justify through the west or scietific progress ,what is essentially moral degradation & not any progress or advancement ,no matter how many pAkistanis manage to get here by various means.
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