Confessions of a BJP Supporter
3 months have past ,story of terror keep coming unending
http://www.telegraphindia.com/national.htm
CHHOTE MODI LIVES UP TO BADE MODI?S REPUTATION
FROM ASHIS CHAKRABARTI Ahmedabad, May 17: Rows of little mud-and-brick houses burnt and pulled down. Only one stands erect and unharmed. The reason: It has ?OM? painted on the front wall, signalling that it belonged to a Hindu family.
Another structure survives, though with a blackened hole that a bomb left on its front gate . It is the office of the Jan Sangharsh Manch, a civil rights group that took this slum of 1800 people, mostly Muslims, under its care three years ago. One man called Modi changed all that on March 1, leaving behind the rubble and emptiness where the slum stood for 30 years.
He isn?t Narendra Modi, who, as chief minister, was changing the face of Gujarat with blood and fire. The destroyer of this slum in Gomtipur, below the Khokhra railway over-bridge and opposite the walls of the closed Ambica textile mill, is police sub-inspector N.A. Modi. Since his March 1 charge on the slum, he is known in the neighbourhood as ?Chhote Modi?, whom the saffron brigade hails as a hero and the Muslims denounce as a devil.
The Gomtipur tale is a miniature of the bigger Gujarat story that the bigger Modi scripted in burnt Muslim neighbourhoods, not just houses, in the killing fields of Naroda-Patia, Paldi, Jamalpur, Chamanpura, Bapunagar and scores of other places in Ahmedabad and elsewhere in Gujarat.
Gomtipur has been just a shade different from the usual horror story from Gujarat. It is also the story of heroic resistance by a small band of ordinary men committed to fighting the Hindu communalists and their uniformed vanguards like sub-inspector Modi.
The saffron mob takes the stage before Chhote Modi makes his appearance. On February 28, a crowd of 500 people gather on the Khokhra overbridge and on the compounds of the adjoining railway employees? colony and start attacking the slum with stones. As frightened villagers leaves their homes and huddle in an opening behind their houses, Mohan Bundela, convener of the Manch, frantically calls up Gomtipur thana for help. ?I must have made a hundred calls but when three policemen came they only stood watching the crowds who curiously melt away after some time.?
Next morning the crowds come better prepared ? stormtroopers of the VHP and Bajrang Dal in their saffron headgear and armed with swords, tridents and stones. Enter Modi in his jeep. He is furious with Bundela for trying to protect the slum and its people.
?He told me as a Hindu I should be ashamed to side with the Muslims after the Godhra kand,? Bundela recounts.
Modi then goes on to show how Bundela should have stood, not with the slum dwellers, but with the crowd.
Modi, who is in plain clothes, asks his men to take out five cans of diesel from his jeep and hands them over to leaders of the mob. Soon, the slum comes down in flames. Fortunately, the Manch activists feared as much and had moved women and children beforehand out of harm?s way. Now, men too run for safety along the railway track and most of them are still in relief camps at Shah Alam dargah in the walled city.
Bundela too flees in his scooter, along with fellow activist Israel, but only to come back later to their one-room office to fight it out against Modi.
The Manch moved the high court against him and got an order issued for an inquiry by a deputy commissioner of police who never came. Modi and his men struck back ? first with threats and then with a bomb that damaged the office gate.
?We?d rather die than leave this place, which we know a promoter has been trying to get to build a hotel,? Bundela says. He and his Manch colleagues are determined to bring the slum-dwellers back once their houses are rebuilt ? and to fight the police officer. Modi refuses to speak because ?the matter is in the court?.
?You?ll hear the same stories of policemen not just standing by but actually taking part in mob violence everywhere,? says retired Chief Justice of Rajasthan High Court A.P. Ravani, whose testimony to the National Human Rights Commission against the government?s role in the carnage was among the most detailed.
Not just policemen, even ministers led some incidents of violence, either directing mobs on the streets or directing the police from behind. Revenue minister Haren Pandya and civil supplies minister Bharat Barot are known to have been out on the streets with violent mobs on February 28. ?Yes, I was in the crowds but not leading them. Actually, I called the police when trouble broke out at Paldi (his constituency),? Pandya told this correspondent.
Two other ministers ? Ashok Bhatt and I.K. Jadeja ? sat in police control rooms, the former at Ahmedabad and the latter at Gandhinagar ? almost through the violence on the 28th. The gory events of the first day of the pogrom showed how they controlled policemen.
Presiding over them all, of course, was chief minister Narendra Modi who called a meeting of senior police officials on 27th evening and reportedly asked them not to use ?force? during the next day?s bandh, which the VHP had called and the government supported to protest the killing of the ?Ramsevaks? at Godhra.
?It?s not just the killings, which are one, though the most gruesomely visible, part of state terrorism. It?s the subversion of the entire state machinery ? the police, bureaucracy, the law and the judiciary. I?m told the chief minister has asked for a list of judges trying to act independently,? Ravani says.
Terror, therefore, continues even if major killings have stopped ? at least for now.
Posted by
Bijli
May 18, 2002 02:06 pm
3 months have past ,story of terror keep coming unending
http://www.telegraphindia.com/national.htm
CHHOTE MODI LIVES UP TO BADE MODI?S REPUTATION
FROM ASHIS CHAKRABARTI Ahmedabad, May 17: Rows of little mud-and-brick houses burnt and pulled down. Only one stands erect and unharmed. The reason: It has ?OM? painted on the front wall, signalling that it belonged to a Hindu family.
Another structure survives, though with a blackened hole that a bomb left on its front gate . It is the office of the Jan Sangharsh Manch, a civil rights group that took this slum of 1800 people, mostly Muslims, under its care three years ago. One man called Modi changed all that on March 1, leaving behind the rubble and emptiness where the slum stood for 30 years.
He isn?t Narendra Modi, who, as chief minister, was changing the face of Gujarat with blood and fire. The destroyer of this slum in Gomtipur, below the Khokhra railway over-bridge and opposite the walls of the closed Ambica textile mill, is police sub-inspector N.A. Modi. Since his March 1 charge on the slum, he is known in the neighbourhood as ?Chhote Modi?, whom the saffron brigade hails as a hero and the Muslims denounce as a devil.
The Gomtipur tale is a miniature of the bigger Gujarat story that the bigger Modi scripted in burnt Muslim neighbourhoods, not just houses, in the killing fields of Naroda-Patia, Paldi, Jamalpur, Chamanpura, Bapunagar and scores of other places in Ahmedabad and elsewhere in Gujarat.
Gomtipur has been just a shade different from the usual horror story from Gujarat. It is also the story of heroic resistance by a small band of ordinary men committed to fighting the Hindu communalists and their uniformed vanguards like sub-inspector Modi.
The saffron mob takes the stage before Chhote Modi makes his appearance. On February 28, a crowd of 500 people gather on the Khokhra overbridge and on the compounds of the adjoining railway employees? colony and start attacking the slum with stones. As frightened villagers leaves their homes and huddle in an opening behind their houses, Mohan Bundela, convener of the Manch, frantically calls up Gomtipur thana for help. ?I must have made a hundred calls but when three policemen came they only stood watching the crowds who curiously melt away after some time.?
Next morning the crowds come better prepared ? stormtroopers of the VHP and Bajrang Dal in their saffron headgear and armed with swords, tridents and stones. Enter Modi in his jeep. He is furious with Bundela for trying to protect the slum and its people.
?He told me as a Hindu I should be ashamed to side with the Muslims after the Godhra kand,? Bundela recounts.
Modi then goes on to show how Bundela should have stood, not with the slum dwellers, but with the crowd.
Modi, who is in plain clothes, asks his men to take out five cans of diesel from his jeep and hands them over to leaders of the mob. Soon, the slum comes down in flames. Fortunately, the Manch activists feared as much and had moved women and children beforehand out of harm?s way. Now, men too run for safety along the railway track and most of them are still in relief camps at Shah Alam dargah in the walled city.
Bundela too flees in his scooter, along with fellow activist Israel, but only to come back later to their one-room office to fight it out against Modi.
The Manch moved the high court against him and got an order issued for an inquiry by a deputy commissioner of police who never came. Modi and his men struck back ? first with threats and then with a bomb that damaged the office gate.
?We?d rather die than leave this place, which we know a promoter has been trying to get to build a hotel,? Bundela says. He and his Manch colleagues are determined to bring the slum-dwellers back once their houses are rebuilt ? and to fight the police officer. Modi refuses to speak because ?the matter is in the court?.
?You?ll hear the same stories of policemen not just standing by but actually taking part in mob violence everywhere,? says retired Chief Justice of Rajasthan High Court A.P. Ravani, whose testimony to the National Human Rights Commission against the government?s role in the carnage was among the most detailed.
Not just policemen, even ministers led some incidents of violence, either directing mobs on the streets or directing the police from behind. Revenue minister Haren Pandya and civil supplies minister Bharat Barot are known to have been out on the streets with violent mobs on February 28. ?Yes, I was in the crowds but not leading them. Actually, I called the police when trouble broke out at Paldi (his constituency),? Pandya told this correspondent.
Two other ministers ? Ashok Bhatt and I.K. Jadeja ? sat in police control rooms, the former at Ahmedabad and the latter at Gandhinagar ? almost through the violence on the 28th. The gory events of the first day of the pogrom showed how they controlled policemen.
Presiding over them all, of course, was chief minister Narendra Modi who called a meeting of senior police officials on 27th evening and reportedly asked them not to use ?force? during the next day?s bandh, which the VHP had called and the government supported to protest the killing of the ?Ramsevaks? at Godhra.
?It?s not just the killings, which are one, though the most gruesomely visible, part of state terrorism. It?s the subversion of the entire state machinery ? the police, bureaucracy, the law and the judiciary. I?m told the chief minister has asked for a list of judges trying to act independently,? Ravani says.
Terror, therefore, continues even if major killings have stopped ? at least for now.
Abr ka Tukra
``Yaade Maazi jaan lewa hai yaaarab
Cheen le Hafiza mujh se :-)``
For Allah`s sake please do not do this to urdu.I
have corrected you earlier and this is the last
correction, O baara sir waaley peer sahib:))
Yaad-e- maazi azaab hai ya rab
cheen le mujh se hafiza mera
Banjara (lajo dont harass Deepika;-)
Shut Up ...CHUP BEY
Who said i am Quoting.This is MY OWN written shair ..take it or leave it.You lack creativity.Only memorise things!!!!!!!
Posted by
Bijli
May 18, 2002 02:06 pm
Bijli # 30``Yaade Maazi jaan lewa hai yaaarab
Cheen le Hafiza mujh se :-)``
For Allah`s sake please do not do this to urdu.I
have corrected you earlier and this is the last
correction, O baara sir waaley peer sahib:))
Yaad-e- maazi azaab hai ya rab
cheen le mujh se hafiza mera
Banjara (lajo dont harass Deepika;-)
Shut Up ...CHUP BEY
Who said i am Quoting.This is MY OWN written shair ..take it or leave it.You lack creativity.Only memorise things!!!!!!!
Abr ka Tukra
ana
Ana returns after a long absence...
Rehan,
I like this piece a lot. Parveen Shakir was a very good choice. :)
Ana
Madhubala & meena Kumari are loooong dead & gone .Waheeda Rehman is GRAND mother now .Are we archeologist digging through bones for carbon dating .I dont know how old you may be but atleast upgrade your system.THINK YOUNG atleast
Posted by
Bijli
May 15, 2002 01:13 am
#: 5ana
Ana returns after a long absence...
Rehan,
I like this piece a lot. Parveen Shakir was a very good choice. :)
Ana
Madhubala & meena Kumari are loooong dead & gone .Waheeda Rehman is GRAND mother now .Are we archeologist digging through bones for carbon dating .I dont know how old you may be but atleast upgrade your system.THINK YOUNG atleast
The Ruined Breakfast
AnNy
What do you think of us (non Pakistanis) fools.How many years in the 54 yrs of your countries existence has democratic President called the shots dear ?
The stupid girl in the bus probably has never read any opinon column by Chomsky Or Arundhati Roy otherwise she wouldnt talk like an air head beuty queens or models talk.If she cant differentiate between Musharaff & Sharon in broad daylight ,she better pass the election day in more sun shine pic nicing rather the dark booth of voting place.
Ayub 58-68 Zia 79-88 & now 98---should atleast be 2008 but the poor chap is only asking for 5 more years .How much fair do you expect someone in the company of 2 bhuttoos &twice p.m. Nawaz Sharif even though for yours sake they were Elected by your likeable way of pooling booth.I didnt care for them any more ,what with murderous arm-twisting feudal elections ever since the landed muslims carved Pakistan to avoid ram rajye MORE IMPORTANTLY LAND REFORM OF 1955 IN INDIA .Ab na koi naukar hoga aur na koi maalik.
Posted by
Bijli
Apr 26, 2002 10:00 pm
``...... girl I met on the bus Tuesday morning on my way to university said most aptly ``this whole thing about the Faujis bringing stability is like Sharon wanting peace and love in the world.`` I argued with her saying Musharraf had done us much good and that we had no alternative really. She gave me a painfully pointed look and said ?precisely, my dear child.? For want of a better leader we will choose the General, this is the general mood in Pakistan.....``AnNy
What do you think of us (non Pakistanis) fools.How many years in the 54 yrs of your countries existence has democratic President called the shots dear ?
The stupid girl in the bus probably has never read any opinon column by Chomsky Or Arundhati Roy otherwise she wouldnt talk like an air head beuty queens or models talk.If she cant differentiate between Musharaff & Sharon in broad daylight ,she better pass the election day in more sun shine pic nicing rather the dark booth of voting place.
Ayub 58-68 Zia 79-88 & now 98---should atleast be 2008 but the poor chap is only asking for 5 more years .How much fair do you expect someone in the company of 2 bhuttoos &twice p.m. Nawaz Sharif even though for yours sake they were Elected by your likeable way of pooling booth.I didnt care for them any more ,what with murderous arm-twisting feudal elections ever since the landed muslims carved Pakistan to avoid ram rajye MORE IMPORTANTLY LAND REFORM OF 1955 IN INDIA .Ab na koi naukar hoga aur na koi maalik.
The Ruined Breakfast
AnNy
What do you think of us (non Pakistanis) fools.How many years in the 54 yrs of your countries existence has democratic President called the shots dear ?
The stupid girl in the bus probably has never read any opinon column by Chomsky Or Arundhati Roy otherwise she wouldnt talk like an air head beuty queens or models talk.If she cant differentiate between Musharaff & Sharon in broad daylight ,she better pass the election day in more sun shine pic nicing rather the dark booth of voting place.
Ayub 58-68 Zia 79-88 & now 98---should atleast be 2008 but the poor chap is only asking for 5 more years .How much more fair do you expect someone in the company of 2 bhuttoos &twice p.m. Nawaz Sharif should be , even though for your highness sake they were Elected by your likeable way of pooling booth.I didnt care for them any more .What with murderous arm-twisting feudal elections ever since the landed muslims carved Pakistan ,to avoid ram rajye .....MORE IMPORTANTLY LAND REFORM OF 1955 IN INDIA .Ab na koi naukar hoga aur na koi maalik.Kiyon YLH?
Posted by
Bijli
Apr 26, 2002 10:00 pm
``...... girl I met on the bus Tuesday morning on my way to university said most aptly ``this whole thing about the Faujis bringing stability is like Sharon wanting peace and love in the world.`` I argued with her saying Musharraf had done us much good and that we had no alternative really. She gave me a painfully pointed look and said ?precisely, my dear child.? For want of a better leader we will choose the General, this is the general mood in Pakistan.....``AnNy
What do you think of us (non Pakistanis) fools.How many years in the 54 yrs of your countries existence has democratic President called the shots dear ?
The stupid girl in the bus probably has never read any opinon column by Chomsky Or Arundhati Roy otherwise she wouldnt talk like an air head beuty queens or models talk.If she cant differentiate between Musharaff & Sharon in broad daylight ,she better pass the election day in more sun shine pic nicing rather the dark booth of voting place.
Ayub 58-68 Zia 79-88 & now 98---should atleast be 2008 but the poor chap is only asking for 5 more years .How much more fair do you expect someone in the company of 2 bhuttoos &twice p.m. Nawaz Sharif should be , even though for your highness sake they were Elected by your likeable way of pooling booth.I didnt care for them any more .What with murderous arm-twisting feudal elections ever since the landed muslims carved Pakistan ,to avoid ram rajye .....MORE IMPORTANTLY LAND REFORM OF 1955 IN INDIA .Ab na koi naukar hoga aur na koi maalik.Kiyon YLH?
Deja Vu
In an ideal Republic ,all the citizens of the country would be equal.What if in DE Mockeracy ,one party of the majprity persuasan,does not even attempt to give chance to its minority one reason to feel its own,or calls it names like ``All muslims are violent & cannot live in peace`` as excuse for taking the heat off his C.M. for murder of 800 innocent civilians.What right do any person have to question there patriotism.
http://headlines.sify.com/popwin.html
Pak blasts Vajpayee for anti-Muslim remarks
Islamabad, April 14Pakistan reacted angrily Sunday to Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee`s controversial comments about Muslims, describing his remarks as ``bigoted`` and accusing him of promoting Hindu fascism.``The government of Pakistan is seriously concerned at the bigoted and extremist message contained in the Indian Prime Minister`s remarks,`` a foreign ministry statement said. ``(Vajpayee is) a promoter of the Hindu fanatic and fascist agenda.``The remarks reveal Mr Vajpayee`s anti-Muslim bias. They are a pathetic attempt to divert attention from the recent massacres of hundreds of Muslims by Hindu fanatics in Gujarat.Vajpayee made the comments on Friday at a speech to BJP members. The address, in which he blamed India`s social woes on Islamic extremism and Muslim intolerance, follows the death of around 750, mostly Muslims in a month of clashes between Hindus and Muslims in Gujarat.``Hindus stay in millions but never hurt others` religious feelings. But wherever Muslims are, they do not want to stay peacefully,`` Vajpayee told the BJP meeting in Goa.``It is happening in Indonesia, Malaysia, everywhere. They(Muslims) stay by threatening and frightening others,`` he said. Pakistan said Vajpayee should also outline his views on extremist and ``terrorist`` Hindu organisations.
Posted by
Bijli
Apr 15, 2002 02:19 am
In an ideal Republic ,all the citizens of the country would be equal.What if in DE Mockeracy ,one party of the majprity persuasan,does not even attempt to give chance to its minority one reason to feel its own,or calls it names like ``All muslims are violent & cannot live in peace`` as excuse for taking the heat off his C.M. for murder of 800 innocent civilians.What right do any person have to question there patriotism.
http://headlines.sify.com/popwin.html
Pak blasts Vajpayee for anti-Muslim remarks
Islamabad, April 14Pakistan reacted angrily Sunday to Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee`s controversial comments about Muslims, describing his remarks as ``bigoted`` and accusing him of promoting Hindu fascism.``The government of Pakistan is seriously concerned at the bigoted and extremist message contained in the Indian Prime Minister`s remarks,`` a foreign ministry statement said. ``(Vajpayee is) a promoter of the Hindu fanatic and fascist agenda.``The remarks reveal Mr Vajpayee`s anti-Muslim bias. They are a pathetic attempt to divert attention from the recent massacres of hundreds of Muslims by Hindu fanatics in Gujarat.Vajpayee made the comments on Friday at a speech to BJP members. The address, in which he blamed India`s social woes on Islamic extremism and Muslim intolerance, follows the death of around 750, mostly Muslims in a month of clashes between Hindus and Muslims in Gujarat.``Hindus stay in millions but never hurt others` religious feelings. But wherever Muslims are, they do not want to stay peacefully,`` Vajpayee told the BJP meeting in Goa.``It is happening in Indonesia, Malaysia, everywhere. They(Muslims) stay by threatening and frightening others,`` he said. Pakistan said Vajpayee should also outline his views on extremist and ``terrorist`` Hindu organisations.
He Said, She Said
tahmed321
``...., but he simply did not say anything about putting on labels as BB claims. How can a woman look so cute and yet be so devious....``
.......................................
Rotfl...ha..ha..ha
TAhmedSb. you are a married man ,how can you be so naive gullible & simpleton?????????????
Not speaking from personal experience but isnt there songs
Devils in disguise .......
Kali ho ya Gori
Kuch bhi Ho Aurat
Zahar ke hai Puria
The more innocent they look the more devious they are .....
Bach ke rahna re baba bach ke rahna re :-)
Posted by
Bijli
Apr 5, 2002 12:35 am
#: 9 tahmed321
``...., but he simply did not say anything about putting on labels as BB claims. How can a woman look so cute and yet be so devious....``
.......................................
Rotfl...ha..ha..ha
TAhmedSb. you are a married man ,how can you be so naive gullible & simpleton?????????????
Not speaking from personal experience but isnt there songs
Devils in disguise .......
Kali ho ya Gori
Kuch bhi Ho Aurat
Zahar ke hai Puria
The more innocent they look the more devious they are .....
Bach ke rahna re baba bach ke rahna re :-)
Riots
Sadna # Doesnt Matter
EXPANSIONIST ISLAM.....CALIPHATE INCLINED PAKISTANCONQUERING INDIA ....
Either Some non muslims are carrying the PERCEPTION of pre Cardova -Spain muslims of Mid East when ,between 700 to 1000 c.e. rate of spread of Islam was most alarming ...OR some body has been reading the NCERT History ``Stories`` than accounts of past which true Hx. is .
Islam as judged by state of 50 or so muslim majority countries are powerless,armyless,leaderless,voiceless ...among many other things needed for Expansion & conquering.
I am willing to put my money where my mouth is & will give 1:10 to any bookie from Kronji to Azhar for that .In last 50 yrs India got rid of 1/3 of its muslim population into mountains plains & swamps of bengal delta ...Yogoslavia pushed its muslim to Bosnia & Albania ...Little TIMOR even threw out large indonesian from timor isl.
Posted by
Bijli
Mar 16, 2002 03:30 am
Sadna # Doesnt Matter
EXPANSIONIST ISLAM.....CALIPHATE INCLINED PAKISTANCONQUERING INDIA ....
Either Some non muslims are carrying the PERCEPTION of pre Cardova -Spain muslims of Mid East when ,between 700 to 1000 c.e. rate of spread of Islam was most alarming ...OR some body has been reading the NCERT History ``Stories`` than accounts of past which true Hx. is .
Islam as judged by state of 50 or so muslim majority countries are powerless,armyless,leaderless,voiceless ...among many other things needed for Expansion & conquering.
I am willing to put my money where my mouth is & will give 1:10 to any bookie from Kronji to Azhar for that .In last 50 yrs India got rid of 1/3 of its muslim population into mountains plains & swamps of bengal delta ...Yogoslavia pushed its muslim to Bosnia & Albania ...Little TIMOR even threw out large indonesian from timor isl.
Memories of December 6th
RSaxena
``... easy for you to say that sitting in canada in the confines of your mounty protected home, sipping hot chocolate ``
Bean counter
Are you still basking in the muslim country peace & quiet ?
Atleast you are not burning muslim houses & Brandishing daggers at 1/2 dead half naked half starve indian minority ...
Posted by
Bijli
Mar 2, 2002 12:20 am
#: 156 RSaxena
``... easy for you to say that sitting in canada in the confines of your mounty protected home, sipping hot chocolate ``
Bean counter
Are you still basking in the muslim country peace & quiet ?
Atleast you are not burning muslim houses & Brandishing daggers at 1/2 dead half naked half starve indian minority ...
America’s Responsibility
``Those who employ the state apparatus to trample upon the fundamental and inalienable rights of people are also perpetrators of terrorism,`` he said.
AHMAD
India, Pakistan clash over Kashmir in UN
terrorism debate
AFP
United Nations, January 18
India and Pakistan traded accusations in a UN Security Council debate on Friday that each was using or supporting terrorist methods in Kashmir.
India`s ambassador to the United Nations, Kamalesh Sharma, urged the council to ``make an example`` of any UN member state that tried to justify terrorism.
Without naming Pakistan, he said that the Lashkar-e-Taiba and the Jaish-e-Mohammad were ``testing the will and resolve of the international community``.
Pakistan`s President Pervez Musharraf banned these and three other groups in an address to the nation last weekend, but refused to hand over any Pakistanis included in a list of 20 alleged terrorists drawn up by New Delhi.
``We believe that the existence of, and support to the activities of, terrorist groups such as Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba is in direct and complete contravention of Resolution 1373,`` Sharma said.
The resolution, adopted by the Security Council on September 28, obliges all member states to pass laws and take executive action to deny financing, support and safe harbour to terrorist groups.
Neither India nor Pakistan is a council member, but both asked to take part in Friday`s open debate, called to take stock of progress made by the UN`s counter-terrorism committee, set up under Resolution 1373.
Sharma`s Pakistani counterpart, Shamshad Ahmad, retorted that his government had taken ``resolute and decisive action`` against terrorism and was determined to ``purge our society of obscurantism and violence``.
But, he said, India was ``confusing and obfuscating the issue`` in order to pursue its own political ambitions for regional hegemony.
Posted by
Bijli
Jan 19, 2002 06:08 pm
``Thirteen million people in Indian-held Kashmir are struggling for their freedom against foreign occupation and alien domination,`` Ahmad said. ``Those who employ the state apparatus to trample upon the fundamental and inalienable rights of people are also perpetrators of terrorism,`` he said.
AHMAD
India, Pakistan clash over Kashmir in UN
terrorism debate
AFP
United Nations, January 18
India and Pakistan traded accusations in a UN Security Council debate on Friday that each was using or supporting terrorist methods in Kashmir.
India`s ambassador to the United Nations, Kamalesh Sharma, urged the council to ``make an example`` of any UN member state that tried to justify terrorism.
Without naming Pakistan, he said that the Lashkar-e-Taiba and the Jaish-e-Mohammad were ``testing the will and resolve of the international community``.
Pakistan`s President Pervez Musharraf banned these and three other groups in an address to the nation last weekend, but refused to hand over any Pakistanis included in a list of 20 alleged terrorists drawn up by New Delhi.
``We believe that the existence of, and support to the activities of, terrorist groups such as Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba is in direct and complete contravention of Resolution 1373,`` Sharma said.
The resolution, adopted by the Security Council on September 28, obliges all member states to pass laws and take executive action to deny financing, support and safe harbour to terrorist groups.
Neither India nor Pakistan is a council member, but both asked to take part in Friday`s open debate, called to take stock of progress made by the UN`s counter-terrorism committee, set up under Resolution 1373.
Sharma`s Pakistani counterpart, Shamshad Ahmad, retorted that his government had taken ``resolute and decisive action`` against terrorism and was determined to ``purge our society of obscurantism and violence``.
But, he said, India was ``confusing and obfuscating the issue`` in order to pursue its own political ambitions for regional hegemony.
1971: A Forgotten Story
``...his is what they have done over the centuries, son killing father, brother mudering brother.... is very common theme in Islamic history. ``]]
REALY Beta brain washed Manoj
! stories of `balidan` of killing children for useless animilistic worship of vestigeal practiceses of 6000 yrs old ,is hinduism ,and you have Chutzpah of crticizing islam
Selective abortion of KILLING YOUR OWN BLOOD & FLESH FEMALE for avoiding DOWRY, practice is Hinduism
40 million sex workers are women due to abandonment of women due to 2 nd class treatment of women ,Devdasni ,neglecting daughter over SONS,is hinduism
Burning women for dowry is hinduism
No right to divorve your husband is hinduism
No right to fulL property of Fathers property for women is Hinduism
WE atleast dont do those things on our own if anything we do ACCORDING TO YOUR HINDUTVA BRAIN WASHED MIND.
And yes all that Manoj Kumars feel good movies are movies fantasy dont take it seriously he is neither a sole spokesman of hindutva hindians or india like you
Posted by
Bijli
Jan 7, 2002 08:53 pm
MANOJ #28``...his is what they have done over the centuries, son killing father, brother mudering brother.... is very common theme in Islamic history. ``]]
REALY Beta brain washed Manoj
! stories of `balidan` of killing children for useless animilistic worship of vestigeal practiceses of 6000 yrs old ,is hinduism ,and you have Chutzpah of crticizing islam
Selective abortion of KILLING YOUR OWN BLOOD & FLESH FEMALE for avoiding DOWRY, practice is Hinduism
40 million sex workers are women due to abandonment of women due to 2 nd class treatment of women ,Devdasni ,neglecting daughter over SONS,is hinduism
Burning women for dowry is hinduism
No right to divorve your husband is hinduism
No right to fulL property of Fathers property for women is Hinduism
WE atleast dont do those things on our own if anything we do ACCORDING TO YOUR HINDUTVA BRAIN WASHED MIND.
And yes all that Manoj Kumars feel good movies are movies fantasy dont take it seriously he is neither a sole spokesman of hindutva hindians or india like you
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