Happy 56th Anniversary, Pakistan and India tahmed,

[...Actually you have made an improvement if you have narrowed your generalization from Pakistanis at large to chowk posters...]

actually you need to improve your reading skills (incidentally not the first time i am asking you to do so). i only talked about chowk pakistanis to begin with.

i have no interest in proving anything to you. you are, however, welcome to prove whatever you want.

and knowing your interest in calculating ratios, try this one...

calculate the ratio of pakistani journalists abusing india or hindus/hinduism or brahmins or baniyas, that too in explicit, no uncertain terms, in pakistan`s national newspapers to the number of indian journalists writing anything remotely similar in india`s national newspapers.

please keep in mind that i am not referring to anonymous posters on web-sites. i invite your attention to real people, with real names, perhaps even paid for writing their views, in major national newspapers which are printed and sold/distributed to a much larger number of people compared to the ones who visit chowk.com.

please share the result with us and then perhaps a judgement can be made regarding its impact and the target audience of your sermons.

Happy 56th Anniversary, Pakistan and India tahmed,

i should have read your post more carefully instead of just glancing through it...

[...I dont know what your problem is, whether you people (and I refer only to that subset of Indian posters who write obnoxious posts) in fact were raised to hate other communities, or suffer from some complexes - but you do have a problem...]

i dont know what your problem is, whether you in fact were raised to hate people who speak the truth or suffer from some complexes - but you do have a problem.

Happy 56th Anniversary, Pakistan and India tahmad,

most chowk pakistanis have denied even what is reported by hoodbhoy regarding schoolbooks in pakistan.

happy? does that change anything?

Happy 56th Anniversary, Pakistan and India re: textbooks

generally speaking, chowk pakistanis have denied even what is reported by hoodbhoy regarding schoolbooks in pakistan.

Peace in South Asia urstruly,

[...Not necessarily...]

by all indications, GOP`s policy in this respect is not similar to yours.

[...But in my opinion people like AR make things worse than better. They create more resentment among their own people, which in turn adds to the problem that already exists...]

make the GOP implement the policy that you talked about and ARs would be irrelevant. can you say that, even on chowk, such a policy is supported by MAJORITY of pakistanis?

Peace in South Asia urstruly,

[...We must invite planners and executors from India who have successfully made things work in India. How they worked towards alleviating poverty and how they succeded. And what were the lessons learned. We must invite entrepreneurs, engineers, and Industrials who could teach us how they made things work in India...]


however, all this must be done AFTER the ROOT CAUSE of all the problems, i.e the future of CAPTIVE KASHMIR, is resolved to pakistan`s satisfaction.

India’s Potential Lose-Lose-Lose Scenario romair`s #174

spoken like a true mujahid...

conspicuous by its absence is any reference to the findings of the MORI (Market & Opinion Research International) poll...not surprising since that doesn`t gel with the great mujahid`s theories.

`since the poll favours the indian position, it must have been manipulated` says brig rashid quereshi according to wall street journal. surely lord avebury was bribed by the indians to switch his loyalties.

Does a Bachelor’s degree mean education in politics the `graduate` requirement is not restricted to `college degrees` as commonly understood around the world, i believe.
therefore, the wobbling students from madarsas with `graduate` degrees would be eligible for candidature, one would think. this would also increase the % of population with graduate degree from 2% to a somewhat higher number.

Is Thackeray a Terrorist? couple of days ago, when i read about musharraf`s `personal envoy` to arab countries demanding thackeray, i thought to myself - that is a very farzanaesque arguement...and lo and behold...

The Significant Unit of War narain,

[...Musharraf has clearly outlined his intentions of stopping support to the violence in Kashmir...]

er...narain saheb, where exactly did he use the word `violence` in relation to kashmir? i believe he said `pakistani soil` would not be used for `terrorism`. but then pakistan has never supported `terrorism` ever anyway. has it? in fact, pakistan itself has been a victim of terrorism for the past 50 years. right? further, what is going on in kashmir is not `terrorism` but `freedom struggle`. no? and is pok considered `pakistani soil` in rhetorics? i believe it is `azad kashmir` and other such fancy names.

so kashmir will continue to run in the bloods of pakistanis...diplomatic, political and moral support would continue...

where does that leave us? the only positive thing for india, if musharraf`s internal policies come to fruition, could be that the bottomless jehad factories may slowly reduce production. this would be the only `long term` benefit to india.

the more things change the more they stay the same...

The Significant Unit of War this is for hobbytys, romairs, and other self-determinated pakistanis -

http://www.dawn.com/2001/05/19/nat7.htm

WASHINGTON, May 18: A two-day conference on ``Sindh and its Right to Self-determination`` began here on Thursday evening with the prominent Baloch leader, Ataullah Mengal, as one of the leading participants.

The keynote address at the conference`s inaugural session was delivered by Jose Ramos-Horta, the East Timorese leader who shared the 1996 Nobel Peace Prize with fellow campaigner for Timorese independence from Indonesia Bishop Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo...

The Significant Unit of War hobbyty,

[...Are Sikkim and Bhutan not worthy of freedom?...]

yes, let the pakistanis devote themselves to a self-determination movement in the kingdom of bhutan.

please tell us more.

Indian Diplomacy : Time To Recheck chowk needs to get a few investigative journalists to contribute here instead of news reporters.

An International Failure shammi,

[...the US State Dept. today included the JeM and the LeT on its list of foreign terrorist organizations...]

i don`t see any such news in the media.

An International Failure `proof` is given to people who are willing to see it and act on it. when lashkar/jaish openly claimed attacks (red fort, srinagar assembly), no action was taken to control them. had they not claimed their roles, the demand from pak would have been `show us the proof`.

even if hafeez/ajhar are caught on videotape planning the attack on parliament, pakistanis would dismiss it as `fabricated`.

but one thing is very clear, bjp will certainly lose the next election(s), if something visible is not done to these two groups.

The Girl Next Door urstruly,

you guys really don`t know how to count, do you? the numbers haven`t changed in the last 2.5 years...it is always 70000 butchered by 700000. do they teach any math where you go?