Twilight Freedom
godot: men and women even today are not equal anywhere in the world, so wake up and smell the coffee. and for your info gloria stienem got married a couple of years ago, and she never posed nude for playboy, she went to work in one of playboy clubs in the 70`s or 60`s as a bunny waitress as an undercover reporter to see what goes on in these clubs, and found out that women were treated badly there, they were paid less, had to wear skin tight playboy bunny outfits , these outfits were so tight that some of the girls, infact Gloria herself would start to bleed by the end of the day, they would have rashes on thier waists and stomachs. and men in the clubs would harass them and the important men , you know the rich guys were also allowed by the club owners to take the girl, any girl home if they wanted to, and if the girl refused she was fired.
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sajni
Mar 13, 2003 06:44 am
Farzana i agree with a lot of points you have made :) and you are right true feminism is about being able to make choices. i just feel that in the present times any woman who prefers to stay at home, in other words be a regular housewife is now looked down upon. i try to explain to people that that is also a choice therefore must be respected just as a woman with a career is respected. but no, people see a housewife as someone who is best described as a `looser` having no confidence, which is not true :) some women simply prefer to stay at home.godot: men and women even today are not equal anywhere in the world, so wake up and smell the coffee. and for your info gloria stienem got married a couple of years ago, and she never posed nude for playboy, she went to work in one of playboy clubs in the 70`s or 60`s as a bunny waitress as an undercover reporter to see what goes on in these clubs, and found out that women were treated badly there, they were paid less, had to wear skin tight playboy bunny outfits , these outfits were so tight that some of the girls, infact Gloria herself would start to bleed by the end of the day, they would have rashes on thier waists and stomachs. and men in the clubs would harass them and the important men , you know the rich guys were also allowed by the club owners to take the girl, any girl home if they wanted to, and if the girl refused she was fired.
Twilight Freedom
so does the above comment made by one of fellow chowky means that the only way to feel confident is when women work in a professional job???? why can`t a woman feel good about herself if she works at home, is a mother, a wife??? whats wrong with that. and then again the last sentence implies that women should work because ``males find women who work `cooler` which cooler is that `water cooler` why should women always care about what men find cooler or not??????
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sajni
Mar 12, 2003 06:48 am
#28: ` It is important for woman to work to gain confidence in her abilities and realize her self-worth. Males may find confident and self assured females to be ``cooler`` as a pleasant surprise` so does the above comment made by one of fellow chowky means that the only way to feel confident is when women work in a professional job???? why can`t a woman feel good about herself if she works at home, is a mother, a wife??? whats wrong with that. and then again the last sentence implies that women should work because ``males find women who work `cooler` which cooler is that `water cooler` why should women always care about what men find cooler or not??????
Twilight Freedom
many women are disaapointed and that is why `feminism` has become a dirty word today, women are simply just too ashamed of it. we should fight for human rights and respect the differences between the nature of a man and woman, and not fight what is natural otheriwse we will end up in a big mess not that we haven`t already.
work and all the independence that comes with it is not all that it is cracked up tp be. Getting to the top is difficult. Once she arrives, the treadmill accelerates. The higher up she goes, the less personal power a woman has for enjoying her life. Experience, competition, high-intensity drive in the cold, cold world makes housewifery look cool by comparison.
A growing number of women want a different kind of power in their lives, power to control their time, to feel safe and to reduce tension. They want to enjoy the civilized aesthetic, not the windowless rooms in a high-rise office tower that aspiring bankers, lawyers and editors live in on the way up.
Women understand well the difficulty of finding a good man. There`s always a new generation of nubile young women coming on. They listen closely to the ticking of their biological clocks as they watch their older sisters struggling to get pregnant. They dread confronting the deadline of fertility. not every women wants a job or career or whatever, feminists think that they do, which is not true at all. feminism is an elitist ideology, it suits the rich women. many poor women or women who are happy to stay at home, and protected from the outside world, have sufffered because of feminism. such women have no one to protect them, love them or care for them.
You can hear a woman`s yearning expressed plaintively by Gwen Stefani, the pink-haired sultry songbird of the punk-pop group No Doubt: ``I always thought I`d be a mom,`` she laments with piercing lyricism on her newest album:
``How`d I get so faithful to my freedom?
A selfish kind of life. . .
When all I ever wanted was the simple things . . .
A simple kind of life.``
Posted by
sajni
Mar 11, 2003 12:17 pm
feminism is definately a dirty word today, and i have known very few people who would be proud to be called `feminists` and there is a reason for that. feminists have done nothing but create more trouble for us women out there. they have taken, snatched women out of thier comfortable and warm and loving homes and flung them out the window in a cold, mean and hard world of work. now what is a woman to do these days, where is she to go???? not every woman is talented enough to be a doctor or a lawyer is she??? so women who are not that intelligent become waitresses or end up in other not very respectable jobs such as `escort services` and the like so that they can be `independent` since men have given up thier responsiblity toward taking care of thier wives or daughters, atleast most of the men in the west, but soon it might happen in pakistan as well. many women have been disappointed with feminism and what it has to offer. there is even more pressure to look good for a woman these days, she cant even get a job if she does not fit the strict standards of beauty set by beauty magazines .i.e cosmopolitan etc etc. by throwing women out in the cold , today women have to more than ever rely on thier looks to get a job or to get a man for that matter, is this what feminism has achieved for us????many women are disaapointed and that is why `feminism` has become a dirty word today, women are simply just too ashamed of it. we should fight for human rights and respect the differences between the nature of a man and woman, and not fight what is natural otheriwse we will end up in a big mess not that we haven`t already.
work and all the independence that comes with it is not all that it is cracked up tp be. Getting to the top is difficult. Once she arrives, the treadmill accelerates. The higher up she goes, the less personal power a woman has for enjoying her life. Experience, competition, high-intensity drive in the cold, cold world makes housewifery look cool by comparison.
A growing number of women want a different kind of power in their lives, power to control their time, to feel safe and to reduce tension. They want to enjoy the civilized aesthetic, not the windowless rooms in a high-rise office tower that aspiring bankers, lawyers and editors live in on the way up.
Women understand well the difficulty of finding a good man. There`s always a new generation of nubile young women coming on. They listen closely to the ticking of their biological clocks as they watch their older sisters struggling to get pregnant. They dread confronting the deadline of fertility. not every women wants a job or career or whatever, feminists think that they do, which is not true at all. feminism is an elitist ideology, it suits the rich women. many poor women or women who are happy to stay at home, and protected from the outside world, have sufffered because of feminism. such women have no one to protect them, love them or care for them.
You can hear a woman`s yearning expressed plaintively by Gwen Stefani, the pink-haired sultry songbird of the punk-pop group No Doubt: ``I always thought I`d be a mom,`` she laments with piercing lyricism on her newest album:
``How`d I get so faithful to my freedom?
A selfish kind of life. . .
When all I ever wanted was the simple things . . .
A simple kind of life.``
Travels through America - Deep Thoughts
Posted by
sajni
Mar 10, 2003 06:28 am
#39 thamed32: sounds like a great idea :)
The New Jews
Posted by
sajni
Mar 9, 2003 06:44 am
AS ALWAYS BINA DOES IT AGAIN. GREAT ARTICLE :)
Travels through America - Deep Thoughts
Posted by
sajni
Mar 8, 2003 05:34 pm
tahmed32: you know what, i have decided to discuss this issue once the war is over in as you say in only 2 weeks , and once US leaves Iraq in a better and a democratic position after the war then i will take all my words back, and possibly change my opinions about the US, but until then i am sticking to my views. i truly hope that what you are saying turns out to be right. we should all pray and hope for the best :)
Aurangzeb The Nude
Posted by
sajni
Mar 7, 2003 04:07 pm
WONDERFUL ARTICLE :)
Dear Aliya!
Posted by
sajni
Mar 7, 2003 04:07 pm
PAGLA KAHIN KA, TUBA TUBA
Travels through America - Deep Thoughts
Posted by
sajni
Mar 7, 2003 06:30 am
the problem is that the US is not going after terrorists its only going to war to protect its oil , and thats that
Travels through America - Deep Thoughts
Posted by
sajni
Mar 7, 2003 05:44 am
#23: no i dont think people should be giving you an ``F``, its just that worshipping something or someone so much is closer to ``idolatory.`` and unfortunately people have started worshipping america, and all its material things, so much so that we have become slaves and cant think straight anymore. there is nothing that great about this country. infact if you take away drugs such as `prozac` and other such drugs you will truly find out how unhappy people are here. america with all its materilasm has given an inferiority complex to all other nations, making us belive that what we have is useless and what is important is what america says, its like todays new god. pakistan or any other country is much much more beautiful than america but do we see that , NO, because we are blinded by america, that wont let us see the beauty that we have. we are blinded by what america tells us constantly is beautiful or great. america sets the standard for everyone and we , fools, follow it blindly. and now ofcourse its on its way to kill and murder some more people, whcih is fine too since the great america can do anyhting.
Travels through America - Deep Thoughts
Posted by
sajni
Mar 6, 2003 04:29 pm
oh so i see people belive the american government is made of zombies or some space creatures. well news for all you folks, THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IS MADE BY THE FLESH AND BLOOD AMERICAN PEOPLE, so please dont assume that american people are so great.
Travels through America - Deep Thoughts
Posted by
sajni
Mar 6, 2003 06:21 am
#9 harimau: i agree with you, but its hard to control teenagers these days. maybe you dont have kids, but you should ask around, its difficult to raise ones kids here. and plus the kind of language you used in your post tells me something or rather a lot about how people who are raised here, behave
Travels through America - Deep Thoughts
Posted by
sajni
Mar 5, 2003 03:33 pm
i think this is a nice and well written article. but seriously by the end of the article i was getting rather tired of reading about all the good stuff that america has to offer. what about all the bad stuff??? what about invading other , poorer, weaker countries, that great america uses and abuses everday to make life better in thier own country while destroying others. what about all the strip joints, teenage pregnancies, high divorce rate etc etc.
Frost Bite
Posted by
sajni
Mar 4, 2003 02:13 pm
#30: welcome, welcome, welcome :)))
Frost Bite
Posted by
sajni
Mar 4, 2003 09:40 am
Tahmed32 #28: yes your wife would definatley think that you have lost your mind if you called her long distance just to ask her that. so let me make it easy for you :) why we need two bottles of shampoo is because it adds variety to our lives, and plus every shampoo smells different so its fun. another reason is that changing shampoos every now and then prevent buildup caused by using the same shampoo over and over again and again. if the other bottle is a conditioner then it is because it moisturizes the hair and protects it from falling out due to extreme dryness :) hope that answered all you questions about the mysterious thing called ``THE SHAMPOO``
Let There be Light...
GOOD POINT :)
Posted by
sajni
Mar 3, 2003 05:25 pm
`` bring some much-needed sun back into their romantic lives after a baby. Husbands should understand it’s largely a matter of allowing their wives time and space to adjust. They have not been replaced by the addition to their family but rather augmented, perhaps even more adored (after all, he can’t be that bad if he helped create this little darling).`` GOOD POINT :)
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