A Certain Education
You are a highly educated person(assistant professor in electrical engineering). A person with your qualifications can benefit a country like Pakistan in a number of different ways such as educating the students as a professor which in turn will increase the technical literacy rate of the country, as a researcher whose research can add in our military technology which can strengthen the defense at our borders, as a proprietor of a company which can create more technical jobs for our people e.t.c. I would really appreciate if you can kindly shed some light on how you intend to benefit the education system of Pakistan. Your answer means a lot because it will be an education to me itself to learn that how one can put one s ideas into practice.
(Hassan Mansoor)
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c676583
Jul 31, 1998 12:36 pm
Dear Ali Ahmed,You are a highly educated person(assistant professor in electrical engineering). A person with your qualifications can benefit a country like Pakistan in a number of different ways such as educating the students as a professor which in turn will increase the technical literacy rate of the country, as a researcher whose research can add in our military technology which can strengthen the defense at our borders, as a proprietor of a company which can create more technical jobs for our people e.t.c. I would really appreciate if you can kindly shed some light on how you intend to benefit the education system of Pakistan. Your answer means a lot because it will be an education to me itself to learn that how one can put one s ideas into practice.
(Hassan Mansoor)
Sex Everywhere
For somebody to make a strong claim like sex everywhere you have to prove that sex is actually everywhere. In order to do so you have to compare sex related problems. You can make this comparison by the help of statistics or by the comparison of different societies and cultures with Pakistan s. These statistics are available on all types of subjects such as divorce rates, pre marital sex, single parents, e.t.c. Also if you state these examples without any facts and just on your experience while your three months stay in Pakistan it certainly is not going to be persuasive at all. Also, your authority to make these statements are unqualified since three months are not enough to judge a culture and a society as a whole.
You might want to shed some light on the culture of Afghans before making any judgments about them. Such as that they are extremely poor, have to pay up till eight to ten lakh rupees before getting married and pre-marital sex with a woman is quite impossible. Since they are poor they cannot get married till very late ages. Thus the only option for their sexual satisfaction till these late ages is by gay means. Without exploring these premises you are ignorantly making claims about these people.
In the second example of the police surgeons office, you say that the young girl is going to have her virginal exam to check whether she is still a virgin or not. If she is proved not to be a virgin she will be charged with charges of adultery which is a pretty serious charge and she will be punished for that. This therefore proves that pre-marital sex is a pretty big offense in the country and if somebody is caught in doing it, the person he or she can face harsh consequences. According to this pre-marital sex is taboo, offensive, not accepted by the society and it is restricted by the law, so that it is not encouraged. Therefore it does not prove that sex is everywhere but does prove that pre-marital sex is restricted thus your cause in this example is just opposite of your conclusion.
Your next example is of seven sex workers and their pimps who are caught red handed. Your example states that prostitution is illegal and is a very serious crime. The seriousness of this crime can be judged by their pictures being posted on a news papers front page. Also you state that when one of the prostitutes asked for a glass of water she was refused because of the disrespect the police woman had for her. Now imagine if a police woman who has so much experience of crime(including sex related crime), who works with men and has so much exposure to the worst of the Pakistani society has such disrespect for her how much disrespect will the rest of the society have for prostitution. Therefore since the society disrespects prostitution and the law does not allow it cannot be concluded at all that sex is everywhere.
In the next example I would like to ask you a question that why do college students have to act in secrecy and privacy. If pre-marital sex is everywhere and is accepted by the society and the law then why not just operate openly. I would like to ask you another question if the boys acted in so much secrecy and privacy than how do you know about all this was going on or you just made it up or you were told about this by some shopkeeper or some sweeper of the neighborhood. You should not believe in the authority of some shopkeeper or sweepers made up story(and with a lot of spices added up to it) and publish it on the internet. If you just made it up or you believed in someone s unqualified authority this is just morally incorrect since it falls in the category of a lie. You should not post something like this up until it is based on factual incident and you should be able to back this up with proof. Without facts it is just based on your or someone else s unqualified authority.
Again your next example is logically irrelevant to the conclusion. A woman who wears Burka and engages in pre-marital sex with her boyfriend and gets into serious trouble. This does not prove that pre-marital sex is everywhere and everybody is doing it. Instead it proves the opposite that if somebody in the country engages in pre-marital sex gets into a lot of trouble.
Ruqaiyya s story and the story you explained in the second last example of rape and physical abuse are of a atypical sample and thus do not prove anything. And all it does is make you commit a hasty generalization. If you want to prove something over here you have to base it on physical statistics. Rape and physical abuse happens in each and every country of this world this is nothing new. Also I would like to mention that 85% of the women in the country are illiterate, most of them don t work and have little or no sense of entertainment. Thus one big source of entertainment for them is sex and thus they look forward to having sex and enjoying sex with their husbands. Thus the notion you have that every woman in Pakistan is physically and sexually being abused by their husbands is incorrect.
After reading the paragraph about hijras I ought to say that that the taxi driver and the young boy are idiots. These guys are not gays besides the boy is also young and rich. They want to have sex with a woman to satisfy their sexual desires but instead end up with a hijra . The only way it makes sense to me is that sex is not common and hence is difficult to get in the country.
About the servant girl rape again you haven t proved anything. Rape goes on in every society of this world. So if you want to prove something over here base it on facts and statistics.
Now by the time I reach the end of your article I am really confused. In the last paragraph you are claiming that woman of Pakistan are really disloyal and in the second last paragraph you claim that woman in Pakistan are extremely loyal to their husbands no matter what even if their husbands are impotent. According to the actual statistics more than 95% of marriages work in Pakistan. Therefore it is true that most women are loyal to their husbands no matter what even if their husbands are impotent. A few might be disloyal but this is very rare. A women in a society like that cannot be disloyal. It is simply not accepted by the society.
The sex related problems you have mentioned have been going on throughout the history of human mankind in each and every society civilized or uncivilized of this world. These things even went on during the time of Prophet(PBUH). If these things went on even during the time of Prophet which is considered to be the most moral of the societies for Muslims than how do you expect that they don t go on in Pakistan. Therefore some of the things you mentioned in your article must be going on in Pakistan but they don t reflect the society as a whole.
This argument is a weak inductive argument. This is a weak inductive argument since the premises do not follow from the conclusion in such a way that it is improbable that the premise be true and the conclusion false. Besides being weak it is uncogent. It is uncogent since it is fallacious. It is fallacious since it has committed arguments of unqualified authority, hasty generalization, appeal to ignorance and so on. (Hassan Mansoor)
Posted by
c676583
Jul 16, 1998 02:29 pm
This article you have written is very confusing and does not make sense at all or especially to me. First the title of your article is sex everywhere and after this you go and support the title by devising the group sex into different parts and then justifying each part by giving one single example or even not by any example. None of your examples are supported by any facts such as statistics, records, comparison e.t.c. which makes your argument sex everywhere very fallacious. Since your examples in your argument is not based on actual facts but are only based on your authority to the reader and are also supported by only one example of each case. You have made up a pretty big hasty generalization based on your conclusion sex everywhere. For somebody to make a strong claim like sex everywhere you have to prove that sex is actually everywhere. In order to do so you have to compare sex related problems. You can make this comparison by the help of statistics or by the comparison of different societies and cultures with Pakistan s. These statistics are available on all types of subjects such as divorce rates, pre marital sex, single parents, e.t.c. Also if you state these examples without any facts and just on your experience while your three months stay in Pakistan it certainly is not going to be persuasive at all. Also, your authority to make these statements are unqualified since three months are not enough to judge a culture and a society as a whole.
You might want to shed some light on the culture of Afghans before making any judgments about them. Such as that they are extremely poor, have to pay up till eight to ten lakh rupees before getting married and pre-marital sex with a woman is quite impossible. Since they are poor they cannot get married till very late ages. Thus the only option for their sexual satisfaction till these late ages is by gay means. Without exploring these premises you are ignorantly making claims about these people.
In the second example of the police surgeons office, you say that the young girl is going to have her virginal exam to check whether she is still a virgin or not. If she is proved not to be a virgin she will be charged with charges of adultery which is a pretty serious charge and she will be punished for that. This therefore proves that pre-marital sex is a pretty big offense in the country and if somebody is caught in doing it, the person he or she can face harsh consequences. According to this pre-marital sex is taboo, offensive, not accepted by the society and it is restricted by the law, so that it is not encouraged. Therefore it does not prove that sex is everywhere but does prove that pre-marital sex is restricted thus your cause in this example is just opposite of your conclusion.
Your next example is of seven sex workers and their pimps who are caught red handed. Your example states that prostitution is illegal and is a very serious crime. The seriousness of this crime can be judged by their pictures being posted on a news papers front page. Also you state that when one of the prostitutes asked for a glass of water she was refused because of the disrespect the police woman had for her. Now imagine if a police woman who has so much experience of crime(including sex related crime), who works with men and has so much exposure to the worst of the Pakistani society has such disrespect for her how much disrespect will the rest of the society have for prostitution. Therefore since the society disrespects prostitution and the law does not allow it cannot be concluded at all that sex is everywhere.
In the next example I would like to ask you a question that why do college students have to act in secrecy and privacy. If pre-marital sex is everywhere and is accepted by the society and the law then why not just operate openly. I would like to ask you another question if the boys acted in so much secrecy and privacy than how do you know about all this was going on or you just made it up or you were told about this by some shopkeeper or some sweeper of the neighborhood. You should not believe in the authority of some shopkeeper or sweepers made up story(and with a lot of spices added up to it) and publish it on the internet. If you just made it up or you believed in someone s unqualified authority this is just morally incorrect since it falls in the category of a lie. You should not post something like this up until it is based on factual incident and you should be able to back this up with proof. Without facts it is just based on your or someone else s unqualified authority.
Again your next example is logically irrelevant to the conclusion. A woman who wears Burka and engages in pre-marital sex with her boyfriend and gets into serious trouble. This does not prove that pre-marital sex is everywhere and everybody is doing it. Instead it proves the opposite that if somebody in the country engages in pre-marital sex gets into a lot of trouble.
Ruqaiyya s story and the story you explained in the second last example of rape and physical abuse are of a atypical sample and thus do not prove anything. And all it does is make you commit a hasty generalization. If you want to prove something over here you have to base it on physical statistics. Rape and physical abuse happens in each and every country of this world this is nothing new. Also I would like to mention that 85% of the women in the country are illiterate, most of them don t work and have little or no sense of entertainment. Thus one big source of entertainment for them is sex and thus they look forward to having sex and enjoying sex with their husbands. Thus the notion you have that every woman in Pakistan is physically and sexually being abused by their husbands is incorrect.
After reading the paragraph about hijras I ought to say that that the taxi driver and the young boy are idiots. These guys are not gays besides the boy is also young and rich. They want to have sex with a woman to satisfy their sexual desires but instead end up with a hijra . The only way it makes sense to me is that sex is not common and hence is difficult to get in the country.
About the servant girl rape again you haven t proved anything. Rape goes on in every society of this world. So if you want to prove something over here base it on facts and statistics.
Now by the time I reach the end of your article I am really confused. In the last paragraph you are claiming that woman of Pakistan are really disloyal and in the second last paragraph you claim that woman in Pakistan are extremely loyal to their husbands no matter what even if their husbands are impotent. According to the actual statistics more than 95% of marriages work in Pakistan. Therefore it is true that most women are loyal to their husbands no matter what even if their husbands are impotent. A few might be disloyal but this is very rare. A women in a society like that cannot be disloyal. It is simply not accepted by the society.
The sex related problems you have mentioned have been going on throughout the history of human mankind in each and every society civilized or uncivilized of this world. These things even went on during the time of Prophet(PBUH). If these things went on even during the time of Prophet which is considered to be the most moral of the societies for Muslims than how do you expect that they don t go on in Pakistan. Therefore some of the things you mentioned in your article must be going on in Pakistan but they don t reflect the society as a whole.
This argument is a weak inductive argument. This is a weak inductive argument since the premises do not follow from the conclusion in such a way that it is improbable that the premise be true and the conclusion false. Besides being weak it is uncogent. It is uncogent since it is fallacious. It is fallacious since it has committed arguments of unqualified authority, hasty generalization, appeal to ignorance and so on. (Hassan Mansoor)
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