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The Laying to Waste of the World: a Memory of I.H Burney
Posted by Fatimah Nov 20, 2001 12:30 am
Hamzad Araqui #509

You are a copy cat /plagirist of this web site

You are trying to pollute true muslims with unislamic thaughts

http://www.fathermag.com/GenderWars/taliban/taliban.shtml



The Laying to Waste of the World: a Memory of I.H Burney
Posted by Fatimah Nov 17, 2001 10:57 pm


Who doesnt know that ,.U.S.A. Is THE MOST UNFAITHFULL PARTNER AS FAR AS mUSLIM & iSLAM IS CONCERNED,iran,iraq,egypt,libya,lebenon,pakistan,HVE BEEN DROPPED LIKE HOT POTATOE AT TIMES OF SUPPORT.

but what the hell can muslims do ,you cant live in he this world (READ WATER) and not be fraindly with the crocodile(READ ,MAGAR MACH SE BAIR) pAANI MAINE RAH KAR MAGARMACH SE BAIR.aLLthe blamE is not of musharaff or past pakistan leaders but trying to make the best of the worst situation.





http://www.sulekha.com/redirectNh.asp?cid=153658



Subcontinental Drift: Second Chance



Will Pakistan be jilted by America again? You bet

BY APARISIM GHOSH







Wednesday, November 14, 2001

Since the United States asked Gen. Pervez Musharraf for help in the War on Terrorism, the dictator and his officials have wasted no opportunity to remind Washington (and the world) that the last time Pakistan lent a hand it was abandoned by the Americans as soon as their objective had been met. After helping the U.S. fight a proxy war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, Pakistan had hoped to remain Washington`s special friend: instead, it was treated like a pariah, with the added humiliation of seeing the Americans chummy up with India. Musharraf has refered to that slight in almost all his press conferences, and his officials have weighed in as well, using expressions like ``ditched`` and ``jilted.``

The no-so-subtle objective of these repeated reminders is to prevent history repeating itself. The Pakistanis hope that a suitably abashed America will be more sensitive to their feelings this time round, and will remain friendly long after the current campaign in Afghanistan has ended. Expect this chorus to rise to a cresendo over the next few weeks as the Taliban is pushed into a corner.

But emotional blackmail is an unreliable diplomatic tool: Musharraf and his officials would do well to look more closely into the reasons why Pakistan was ``ditched`` before in order to prevent it from happening again. America didn`t dump a good friend, it simply ended a temporary arrangement. What it had with Pakistan was not really a relationship, it was more like a one-night stand. Like people, countries can only build long-term relationships when they share common values. And secular, democratic America had little in common with the Islamic dictatorship that helped win the first Afghan War. (When democracy did come to Pakistan, it was deeply flawed, with the military still calling the shots.) That is why the U.S. turned away.

It`s like doing business with somebody you suspect is a slightly shady character: you don`t want to socialize with him when the deal is done.

This is not to say America (or any other nation, for that matter) doesn`t forge ties with shady characters -- countries that don`t share its values. The U.S. has at one time or another been in bed with tinpot dictators in Africa, fundamentalist Islamic kingdoms in the Persian Gulf and the communist regime in China. But all of these ties were and are based on specific objectives -- the Cold War, oil or massive markets for American companies. Never mind what American politicians say, Saudi Arabia and China are not America`s ``friends,`` they are no more than partners of convenience.

America`s real friends are countries like Britain and France and Canada, with which it shares the values of secularism and liberal democracy. Like all friends, they occasionally bicker -- about tarrif barriers, say, or environmental protection -- but you know that the underlying friendship will endure.

This has nothing to do with race. For a test, ask an African-American cab driver in New York, a Hispanic barman in LA or a white delivery boy in Boston whether they think of China as a friendly country. I think you already know the answer.

Lacking rich oil reserves or a billion-man market, Pakistan cannot hope to hold on to America`s interest for very long after the campaign against the Taliban. What must Islamabad do to be one of Washington`s enduring friends? For a start, it must quickly return to democracy -- and a real one this time, please, with the military staying out of it. Sadly, Musharraf has made it plain he has no intentions of giving up power. For all the assurances coming out of Washington, Pakistan is doomed to be ``ditched`` again.

Write to TIME at mail@web.timeasia.com







Crazy Night
Posted by Fatimah Nov 17, 2001 12:58 am




SO YOU DONT CELEBRATE THANKS GIVING B/C YOU ARE NOT DESCENDENTS OF PILGRIMS,YOU NEVER DISPLACED NATIVE INDIANS INITIALLY HOW ABOUT JUST MAKING IT A DAY TO THANK FOR ALL THE FORTUNE YOU SAY NO THANK YOU FOR WHOLE YEAR





Be Thankful for What You Have!!







Should you find something on your dinner plate that doesn`t appeal to you, don`t complain. There are people who don`t have anything on their plate.



Should you find yourself stuck in traffic, don`t despair. There are people in this world for whom driving is an unheard of privilege.

Should you have a bad day at work, think of the man who has been out of work for years.

Should you despair over a relationship gone bad, think of the person who has never known what it`s like to love and be loved in return.

Should you grieve the passing of another weekend, think of the woman in dire straits, working twelve hours a day, seven days a week to feed her children.

Should your car break down, leaving you miles away from assistance, think of the paraplegic who would love the opportunity to take that walk.

Should you notice a new gray hair in the mirror, think of the cancer patient in chemo who wishes she had hair to examine.

Should you find yourself at a loss and pondering what is life all about, asking what is my purpose? Be thankful. There are those who didn`t live long enough to get the opportunity.

Should you find yourself the victim of other people`s bitterness, ignorance, smallness or insecurities, remember, things could be worse. You could be them!

Should you decide to send this to a friend, you might brighten someone`s day!



















The Laying to Waste of the World: a Memory of I.H Burney
Posted by Fatimah Nov 17, 2001 12:58 am


JUST LIKE JEHAD,WHICH IS NOT JUST FIGHTING OUTSIDE BUT STRUGGLE WITHIN,RAMADAN IS NOT JUST NOT EATING ,IT MEANS CONTROLL ON ALL YOUR INVOLUNTARY & VOLITIONAL BASE INSTINCTS WHICH OVERPOWER OUR HIGHER SELF INTO FALLING SHORT OF OUR EXPECTATIONS.LIVE UPTO YOUR EXPECTED GOALS.

AND OFCOURSE NON MUSLIMS ARENOT BARRED FROM PRACTICING IT .

Ramadhan Mubarak

As the moon sighting confirms the start of holy month of Ramadhan,

let us all pledge to make this month full of good deeds, sincere

prayers, and love for one another.

May Allah (SWT) accept our fasting and multiply our rewards in this

blessed month.

1. An apology is a good way to have the last word.

2. Pick your friends, but not to pieces.

3. Life is like a mirror, we get the best results when we smile at it.

4. Usually people are as happy as they make their minds up to be.

5. You cannot leave footprints in the sands of time while sitting down.

6. You will never offend a person by returning a smile.

7. Gentle words fall lightly, but have great weight.

8. Anybody who thinks talk is cheap never argued with a traffic cop.





Whither Democracy?
Posted by Fatimah Nov 13, 2001 09:53 am


Layman

#359

``and Pakistan is not Bastardized ``

I can speak of Muslims of Indian subcontinent they are not

I have arguments but for the moment i exert my PERSONAL opinion as defense for thinking so

No matter what non muslims of India think,Islam is never BOUGHT like christianity.

by that i mean no muslim pays like christian to become muslim



The Laying to Waste of the World: a Memory of I.H Burney
Posted by Fatimah Nov 12, 2001 07:54 pm


#102

YLH

Fatimah,

No one remembers Jinnah? No one? Maybe Bigots like you dont... but for the millions of oppressed minorities who were oppressed by your daddy that Dog Zia ul Batil ... Jinnah is still their protector general... the final `living` authority that they use to fight for their rights in Pakistan... What is more is that Musharraf remembers Jinnah and that is what matters...

And like tahmed says ... it is the ideal that lives on ...

Jinnah might have died, but his 11th August Speech and numerous other proclamations are constant reminder, a conscience of sorts for Pakistanis who love Pakistan...

Pakistan shall be a secular democracy, a secular democracy which will thrive and become strong and will fulfil the ideals that were so eloquently expressed by Jinnah on 11th August 1947 and which have been echoed by Pervez Musharraf...



-YLH

Even if Pakistan is SECULAR democracy of Pakistan according to Jinnahs ideals which you want to uphold,you mean to say you will be a BETTER SECUKLAR DEMOCRACY than India ,for they already are & Pakistan snides,quips & smirks at it for saying so e,g, Pakistan defenitely doesnt believe india is practicing secularism in Kashmir .

You are champion of Democracy too .I have nothing against Democracy ,but im not CRAZY about it.How can you vote ideal of jinnah whenyour PML is not even the same party that Jinnah founded.

I wish you well in whatever Jinnah or your own ideals you want to bring ,but with the mass mind filled with Religion,Secterianism,Lingiustic loyalties & geopolitical div,not to speak of provincialism,IDEALISM is ditant 10 th in the list .I wished you had understood without me having make it so explicit.



We, The Fake
Posted by Fatimah Nov 12, 2001 02:35 am
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

On 2nd thaughti must write somthing although i agree with all the previous 4 posts .

``ab na koi nauker hoga

Aur na koi maalik``

Its a become a joke now !!lol



The Laying to Waste of the World: a Memory of I.H Burney
Posted by Fatimah Nov 12, 2001 01:24 am


#84

Kafir Khan

oxymoron

``BUT WILL NEVER HAVE PEOPLE``S REPRESENTATION. Democracy kabhi nahin hogi. ``]]

You said ,i didnt

DEMOCRACY WAS INVENTED BY ISLAM ,KAFIR

Sorijni Naidu -1940

Before magna Carter or first english law was conceived in 7th century when the khalifa & the slave stood shopuilder to shoulder ,the concept of one man one vote was already cobnceived.Rennaisence just copied those ideas from everything prior to 1453 .Learn your islamic history



Whither Democracy?
Posted by Fatimah Nov 11, 2001 08:19 pm


Whither Democracy?
Posted by Fatimah Nov 11, 2001 08:19 pm


#330

YLH

Once again, I am sorry to say but I have no faith in Democracy

You just lectured me on democracy when i argued for indegenous modification of western ideology.

How manytimes you change within a day

If you leave the islamic character of Pakistan how will you be different than Phillipines.??



The Laying to Waste of the World: a Memory of I.H Burney
Posted by Fatimah Nov 11, 2001 01:20 pm
#: 50

tahmed321

I heard Bhutto`s speech at the UN following the defeat of 1971 when ranted about unfairness to Pakistan and at the end of his ranting he tore up his speech and walked out like a spoilt brat``]]

Well said finnally!

The developed world has to realise ,developing countries have there own ingenious ,unorthodox & surprising ways of reaching the correct result.

Bhuttoo the politician ,was poor choice than the Musharaff the tyrant dictator who forced coup de tante & Imposed Monarchy !!!All those verbose lega constitutional expert of wester university ,are NOT needed where ppl. understand urdu,Islam,Insaaf,equality,`ab na koi nauker hoga ab na koi maalik`



In Search of the Moderate Muslim
Posted by Fatimah Nov 11, 2001 01:20 pm
DOWN GIRL FLEEING BANGLA BACKLASH



FROM PROBIR PRAMANIK



Siliguri, Nov. 10:

The policy muddle on telling between “infiltrators” and “refugees” lay stained in blood today as a 12-year-old girl fleeing persecutors in Bangladesh fell to BSF bullets after crossing over to India.

Daya Rani Khatri was killed and her 15-year-old brother, Shanto, injured when BSF soldiers, unable to ascertain whether they are intruders or refugees, opened fire.

A steady stream of Bangladeshis has been escaping to Bengal since a change of government in Dhaka triggered a violent backlash on minorities. However, in the absence of clear-cut government guidelines, officials in India have been unable to define a “refugee” and an “infiltrator”, a sensitive issue in power politics.

Chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, who is leaving for Delhi next week to attend an inter-state council meeting convened by the Prime Minister, is expected to raise the influx issue with the Centre .

The state government has sought a report from the district magistrate on the BSF firing.

The five-member Khatri family and two other families from Khanoga village in Thakurgaon had decided to sneak into Bengal under the cover of darkness on Friday.

The group of about 15 people crossed the porous border at Bashalgram under Haripur police station of Bangladesh and entered Baharbindol in Uttar Dinajpur on the Indian side without much trouble.

However, almost 200 metres inside Indian territory, the group was challenged by a BSF night patrol. “It was pitch-dark when we crossed over to the Indian side and some people opened fire. All I remember is being hit in the stomach and losing consciousness. I don’t know what happened to my father and elder brother, or where my mother is,” Shanto said.

The teenager, who was hit in the stomach, is now recuperating in the general ward of the Raigunj Sadar Hospital where the BSF rushed him last night. His father, Subash Khatri, and elder brother Satya, 18, are reported missing. The whereabouts of their mother Savitri is not known.

“Some people in this hospital told me that my sister, Daya, has been killed in the firing,” said Shanto between sobs.

The commandant of the 97th battalion posted at the Haripur-Bashalgram border, Raj Singh, said the border patrol had challenged the group well within Indian territory and asked it to halt before opening fire.

“The patrol warned the group to stop, but they did not heed. The jawans then opened fire. While a minor girl was killed, another boy was injured. We rushed him to the hospital with bullet injuries. The other members of the group managed to escape,” Singh said.

Singh did not clarify whether the fleeing Bangladeshis were “intruders or refugees”. “Anyone found entering Indian territory without valid documents is treated as an intruder by us,” he said.

Balcony collapse kills 4

Four persons, including a child, died after the balcony of a temple on Strand Road, near Howrah Bridge, collapsed tonight. The victims were sleeping on the pavement under the balcony, which collapsed after a truck rammed into the pillars of the 125-year-old temple.





In Search of the Moderate Muslim
Posted by Fatimah Nov 11, 2001 01:20 pm
WHILE JIZYAH MAY HAVE BEEN EXPLOITED MISSUSED & MISS APPLIED BY ORDINARY KINGS & EMPERRORS IN THERE 1000 YRS REIGN IN INDIA ITSELF,HINDUS HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD IT EITHER B/C OF COMMUNALISM ,HATRED & HATE MONGERING INCITED BY HINDU MAHASABHA FANATICS .

Below is a short extract on Jizyah and how it was applied to the tribe of

Taghlib.

:

``Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe

not in Allah, nor the Last Day; and forbid not that which Allah hath

forbidden by His Messenger, and follow not the religion of truth until they

pay the tribute (Jizyah) readily, being brought low. ``

[Surah at Tauba (9): verse 29]

It has been proved that the Prophet ordered to take Jizyah from the

Magians. Moreover, it has been reported that during the life?time of the

Prophet, Jizyah was realised at the rate of one dinar from every adult, free

or slave, male or female. Umar levied it on the dhimmis at the rate of four

dinars on every rich man, or forty dirhams, and did impose nothing on the

women and the slaves; and he levied on those who were not rich at the rate

of two dinars or twenty dirhams per head, and on those who were still less

wealthy at the rate of one dinar or ten dirhams in case they belonged to

`the people of silver` (ahl al?Waraq). To this rate he added bushels of

olive oil and entertainment (hospitality) of Muslims for three days.

Imam Malik and his followers, therefore, followed the practice of Umar and

interpret that his practice is not against the practice of the Prophet. Umar

deviated from the early practice as mentioned earlier only on account of the

wealth of these persons. So he levied on every individual according to his

capacity. Undoubtedly this was the interpretation of Umar. Malik and his

followers hold that nothing is to be increased upon what is prescribed by

Umar and I think they may be excused of entertainment that sometimes prove

too much for them.

Ibn Idris opines that no dinar is to be added to one dinar. Another group of

scholars holds that it is up to the Imam: If he thinks it proper to enhance

it on account of their abundant wealth, he can enhance it as Umar enhanced.

It has been reported that Banu Taghlib, who were Christians, disliked paying

Jizyah. Before it was levied on them, they offered to pay one fifth of their

harvest as well as that of the produce of the land, and accordingly an

agreement was concluded with them. Some of our authorities however refuse to

accept this from them comparing the case with that of Zakah because Zakah is

realised only from the Muslims to purify them, and Jizyah is realised from

the disbelievers to protect/subdue them.

This has been taken in the sense of a peace?treaty not in the sense of

Zakah. Had they been aware of the tradition mentioned above, would not have

surely opposed it, since, to conclude a peace?treaty on this term is

permissible.

[Ref: Kitab al Amwal, al-Daudi (402 AH/ 1011 AD)]

Notes:

1. Jizyah: the root meaning is compensation. The derived meaning, which

became the technical meaning, was a poll-tax levied from those who did not

accept Islam, but were willing to live under the protection of Islam, and

were thus tacitly willing to submit to its ideals being enforced in the

Muslim State. There was no amount permanently fixed for it. It was in

acknowledgment that those whose religion was tolerated would in their turn

not interfere with the preaching and progress of Islam. Imam Shafi`i

suggests one dinar per year, which would be the Arabian gold dinar of the

Muslim States. The tax varied in amount, and there were exemptions for the

poor, for females and children (according to Abu Hanifa), for slaves, and

for monks and hermits. Being a tax on able-bodied males of military age, it

was in a sense a commutation for military service.

2. An-Yadin (literally, from the hand) has been variously interpreted. The

Jizya was thus partly symbolic and partly a commutation for military

service, but as the amount was insignificant and the exemptions numerous,

its symbolic character predominated.

3. Throughout history the Jizyah would apply to non-Muslims living under

Muslim rule; referred to as `dhimmis`. This income could NOT be spent on the

Muslims, rather it was spend on the non-Muslims e.g. building

infrastructure, developing education etc. At the same time, any tax which a

Muslim paid to the treasury, part of this would also be allocated to the non

Muslims.

4. Zakah: this is the `duty` which a Muslim must pay on his property /

income. The reservation above of not wishing to accept produce as Jizyah is

based on the similarity it bears to Zakah, and I suspect the scholars wished

to distinguish between Zakah and Jizyah.

5. A Dinar is a gold coin, a Dirham is a silver coin



Whither Democracy?
Posted by Fatimah Nov 11, 2001 04:19 am
Two opposite types of people have been unfair to women:

1. The Westernized type who want to impose Western traditions, which include decadence and lack of values - especially religious, and deviation from normal nature. In addition to staying away from the rightly guided path, that Allah has sent prophets and holy books to show to the people and call them to abide by.

They want the Muslim woman to follow the habits of Western women, inch by inch and foot by foot as was visualized in the hadith of the prophet: ``Even if she enters the lizard`s hole she follows her even it was twisted and narrow and smelled bad.`` Nevertheless, if the Western woman enters it, the Muslim woman follows suit. Or in other word, a new kind of amicability that some tried to propagate that was known as ``Amicability of the lizard`s hole``.

Those people are not aware of what the Western woman complains of today and the negative repercussions that the `open` mixing of sexes has brought upon her, upon men, the family and the whole society. They shut their ears to the screams of dissatisfaction that filled the horizons of the Western world, as well as the screams of the scientists and literary men, and the fears of intellectuals and the reformists of the whole civilization that was affected as a result of canceling all restrictions on the mixing of sexes.

Those people also forget that every nation has its personality that is formed by its beliefs and visualized it to the universe, life, existence and the God of existence, as well as its values, heritage and customs. It is not right for a society to copy another one.



2. The second half are those who force other traditions on women but they are the traditions of the East not the West. Those traditions are given a religious color. Those people who made those claims made them from their sides; based on something that they understood, or a view that they initiated or preferred because it suits their view on women and their disrespect for her, her religion, her brains or her behavior.

Nevertheless, it is no more than the viewpoint of a human who can make mistakes due to the effect of time or place on him, the effect of his sheikhs and his school. He is opposed by other views that basing their opinions on what is Sahiih in the Glorious Quran, and in the wisdom of the Noble prophet and the stands of the companions.

I would like to state that the word `mixing` in the area of the relationship between men and women is a new word that has entered into our Muslim dictionary. It was never known to our long heritage for the past centuries, and was not known except in this period. Perhaps it was a translation of a `foreign` word that carries this meaning. Its implication is not a comfortable one to the senses of a Muslim person.

It would have been better to use the words meeting, gathering, or women`s participation with men or something .....



In Search of the Moderate Muslim
Posted by Fatimah Nov 11, 2001 04:19 am


Shima,is this the incident in Bangladesh you were talking about .

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?sid=1&fname=Bangla+Refugees+%28F%29&fodname=20011119&secname=International





BANGLADESHI REFUGEES

The Damned And The Forgotten

With attention focused on the war westwards, there`s none to heed the plight of Hindus fleeing the excesses of BNP rule

[]

ASHIS K. BISWAS



Hounded out of his property by an armed mob in Bangladesh on October 8 and facing imminent arrest as an illegal alien in West Bengal, Bidhubhusan Das (45) is not even a statistical entity today. Cowering in a dark hideout somewhere in Habra in North 24 Parganas, Das and his faceless associates are a shattered lot. ``Only days ago, I owned a merchandise store in the Bhola area of Barisal district, employing 15 men. This morning, I am cutting grass here as a daily wage labourer! Even my shirt is borrowed; I`ve been feeding off the locals. I just about managed to escape hiding in the fields during the day, walking endlessly during the night with the other escapees.``

[]

[] []

It began with provocative slogans; the floodgates opened soon after a BNP win looked certain.

[] []

[]

[]

Bidhu`s account is typical of the horror tales told to the local media by most of the estimated 15,000 people who have fled here illegally from Bangladesh in the last one month. Their experience is indicative of the kind of existence the





minority Hindus can expect in a BNP-ruled Bangladesh. Ever since Khaleda Zia came to power in October, the minority communities, particularly Hindus, have had to face the wrath of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party and Jamaati activists who have gone on a rampage against them. Fearing for their lives, Hindus are fleeing Bangladesh in the thousands.

It was all planned prior to the October 1 polls. Consider the BNP/Jamaat election slogan critical of `Hindu-friendly` Sheikh Hasina: Hare Krishna hare Ram, Hasinar baper naam; Hindu jodi bachte chao, Bangla chere Bharat jao (Hasina`s father is Hare Krishna, Hare Ram, if you want to survive, Hindus leave Bangladesh and go to India). The supposedly neutral caretaker regime did not take the slightest notice of the deteriorating communal situation and rising tension despite repeated complaints. Recalls refugee Rubel Das: ``We used to cower every time a procession went past our houses, shouting these slogans, with the hotheads rattling our doors or shattering our window panes.``

Das recalls his experience on voting day. ``I was initially scared to vote but curiosity prevailed and I went to the booth. I saw local policemen driving out bunches of Hindu women in the queue, twice at least, so they could not vote. On the other hand, a batch of burqa-clad ladies cast their vote several times, voting and rejoining the queue at the head, no ink being applied to their fingers. It was a mockery of elections, the crudest form of rigging.``

The floodgates opened the next day onwards, as a BNP win looked certain. Communal violence erupted with reports coming in from at least 40 out of 64 districts. The police, alleges refugee Sunil De, turned a blind eye. The newly-elected BNP and Jamaat MPs began issuing diktats. In Barisal, two BNP MPs announced that no sale of property or bank transaction would be conducted sans their approval. ``The Hindus have no right here,`` declared a Bhola MP, urging the police not to be too harsh with ``young boys having a bit of fun``!

Swapan Das, member of the Bangladesh Udbastu Unnayan Sangstha (BUUS), the only group that looks after the refugees, points to Shefali Das, 40: ``She is a rape victim.`` The woman who crossed over with two girls (aged 10 and 8) and a boy (6), stares vacantly and answers questions vaguely. Yes, she`d seen some women raped, often by their neighbours. ``Even in normal times, Muslims, even young kids, openly abuse and taunt us.`` Their house, in Padmamansa village in Barisal, was attacked on October 3.

Das and Bimal Majumdar, another BUUS office-bearer, refugees themselves, are expectedly angry over official apathy for the new refugees``.



contd.i lost the link due to crash plz try the url there is page 2



In Search of the Moderate Muslim
Posted by Fatimah Nov 9, 2001 10:56 am
#509

``The tell-tale sign of what became Pakistan`s menace is there in Bangladesh too. Being a Bengalee myself I do associate with many Bangladeshi friends and most of them are very warm and proud people. They are always extremely courteous and good hosts in one-to-one interaction, but when it comes to the community, they never fail to criticize India (if you really do not know Bengalees, they really can bring storms in tea-cups)and that hurts. However, our best bets are still these people who really are forward looking, hard working proud Bengalees. Hope Khaleda Zia (who shares part of the name of Zia-Ul-Haq), realises how dangerous is to play with fire and control those Jamatis before they create a havoc in the country and World.``



AAmi jantam na ,aapni bangali ,Aami bangla,likhte ,porrhte ar bujhte paari .But i ll reply in English for the benefit of Eklavia & others.

The dynamics of refugees on both sides is totally different.Whereas ,refugees from Bangladesh(e.Pakistan)& west Pakistan to India have been taken in by Far greater than from India to Pakistan & Bangladesh.Refugee Joyti Basu reigned 18yrs as c.m. of Bengal,.A indian muslim refugee cant dream of becoming C.M or Gov. of any province of Pakistan.Musharaf became through separate military connection. So for all practical purposes Pakistan was not made for Indian muslims.Whether ,India could be home of all the hindu of Pakistan & Bangladesh would depend upon India wanting to remain Secular or Hindu Rashtr for hindu.I dont care ,but i speak only for my self.

India in gen & Bengal in Particular have always avoided refugee resettlement rehabilitation by passing the buck to atroceties of Pakistan .

Bangladesh creation was one argument for sealing the exodus of hindus from east bengal once & for all.I personally abhor & despise those noakhali mymen singh & komilla rioters.If you ask me , i probably hate those bengali muslim for maltreating hindu minoreties than Sangh Parivar.Atleast Sangh Parivar are equally hindutva to Victor banerjee to Khanna & Advani ,but thses bengali muslim first formed Muslim league .Initiates riots in noakhali & when Gandhi went there to stop it they stole his goat .

Then few years later ,Mujibur Rehman ,who was a 3rd grade student of Calcutta University living in Baker Hostel .colluded with his pre partition buddy to decide otherwise causing millions of peoples death.

We cannot undo the partition ,but if we dont people accountable for proper & gentelmanly word of honour all those voting & democracy i care two pence for .Most of the idiot bangladesh ministers are monkies anyway .I have never seen a bangladeshy worthy of my intellectual appreciation.Can you name one.

So bangladesh is not islam or typical muslims hatred for non muslims but group of pl. who hate there own mother.



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