Brahmin and Mullah Reply #: 151

shankar

I cant say that the reasons why zia and ayub seized power were as compelling as that of musharrafs ..maybe they were maybe they werent. If u look at it from an islamic point of view then Zia`s reason for seizing power was very compelling. Why?Because Bhutto was westernizing Pakistan. We are called the ``islamic republic of pakistan`` yet bhutto was more influenced by western cultures. Ayub Khan`s reason for seizing power was that our govt and economy were very unstable. After every year there was a new person in power. And no one was really doing anything for Pakistan. So i think everyones reason for coming into power is compelling in its own way.

Reply #: 169

shankar

There are not many muslims left who truely follow Islamic teachings the way Allah and our prophet wanted us to. Infact im ashamed to say that i am one of those muslims. You are rite that people just pray and fast to show what good muslims they are and yet they dont know about islam and how one should lead his/her life the islamic way.

Who said Pakistan is islamic in its character? Pakistan is just called an islamic republic.Its just a name thats all. Yes Majority of the people who live In pakistan are muslims but maybe only 2% of these people truely follow islam.And i must say our leaders (our role models) are certainly not islamic. In this world only one country is really following the shariah (islamic laws) and that is Afghanistan. Not even Saudi Arabia is following the Shariah.

That is why our country is full of corruption and all kind of crimes.Im afraid there are not many good muslims left.

``Heck our fathers & their father`s fathers have been depraved! How am I expected to know any better?!``

That is no excuse!If you know islam is perfect then why are you still a hindu? Just because u were born in a hindu family doesnot mean taht u cannot convert to any other religion.!Ahh...social pressures..Im not sure that people other than muslims are going to be forgiven Allah Knows best.

Yes i agree with you that those who have more knowledge are going to be judged strictly than those who have lesser knowledge...but believe me everyone will have their piece of cake...it doesnt matter if it be more strict or not.

Brahmin and Mullah Btw im not a guy...im a gurl..but my sex isnt important.

i just wanted to let everyone know as most of u think im a guy.

The Indus that Strayed A very well written article indeed Mrs Venkateswar. I enjoyed reading it very much. You sketched a brilliant picture of Mirpurkhas and your stay there.. i could almost feel myself in your shoes. Keep writing and welcome to chowk!

Klutz

Brahmin and Mullah Reply #: 147 Zafar Al-Talib

why thankyou...that is so kind of u !is it a free service?

White Charade You have a way with words. I felt like everything was happening in front of my own eyes. A very good crime story. I enjoyed every bit of it (reading i mean! )

Brahmin and Mullah Reply #: 112 bhartiya musalman

You call urself a muslim?You are so proud to be an ``INDIAN`` muslim because you can see islam is flawed? God what kind of a muslim are you? Do you have something between ur ears? It`s people like you the ``So called`` muslims who are an embarrassment to our religion. If islam was flawed would it be the ``fastest growing religion in the world today?`` We are lucky to be pakistanis. Atleast here we are taught how lucky we are to be born muslims. Atleast we know that islam is the absolute religion and is perfect!!! In india you are taught that islam is flawed. MAN Thats something...i wish i was an indian!!SHEESH!!!

What kind of a muslim are you anyway?By birth only?????? You remind me of an ``indian Muslim woman`` who on her friends advice went to a ``Mandar`` to pray for her sons health who was dying.She didnt pray to Allah (well maybe she didnt) . but she went to a mandar and prayed to those objects made of stone. Well Yea you believe in Allah..but you dont believe HIS words when HE says that ive perfected your religion for you.

You bore me and so does your reply!Its ignorant ppl like you who dont practice islam who dont research on it and then have the guts to say ``islam is flawed``!

Brahmin and Mullah Reply #: 112

bhartiya musalman

What do u mean Islam is flawed???Look here brother islam is NOT Flawed...if a person follows the Quran and Ahadith then he will get a flawless religion. Every religion has a flaw except Islam.Islam is egalitarian.

``When Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) performed Hajj, on the ninth of Dhul-Hijjah in the plains of Arafaat ,Allah Ta`ala sent Jibraaeel (Alayhis salaam) with the following verse:

Today have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you and I am pleased with Islam as your religion. ``

If Allah Has said that islam is perfect then who are u to say it is flawed???I agree that today many ignorant muslims have introduced some new things to islam to their satisfaction...but then one should search on islam him/herself not just believe what the molvis are saying!!

Brahmin and Mullah Reply #: 123

Zafar Al-Talib

i must say i never did think of looking up in a dictionary what ``Hindustan`` means.. i just naturally thought it came from the word ``Hindu`` as in the religion. Anyway thanks for enlightening me.

Yea it really made me feel better to know that ``Urdu was at one time referred to as Hindavi``

:)

Brahmin and Mullah btw sorry my reply is a little late...

i just checked these replies :)

Brahmin and Mullah #: 28 iqbal Kasim

i agree that by definition Pakistan is not a secular nation!!But i dont agree with you when you say that india is a secular nation...why?because even though india is a multi-religious country,isnt it aslo called HINDUSTAN??? isnt that name connected with their religion?If pakistan is called an Islamic Republic then doesnt it mean anything when INDIA is called HINDUSTAN?

#: 12 iqbal kasim

you said

``I do not know how you are saying that

`` Pakistan has law and order``- go and look at Sindh and its dacoits and kidnappings. We have such a great law and order system that the Army throws the Government out every few years and for more than half our tramautic history we have been under the thumb of an army dictator. ``

Mr Kasim every country has its dacoits and kidnappings...it doesnt mean they dont have law and order.Look at USA,England, et al ... they also have Law & Order yet they have the highest crime rate. I agree we dont really have the best kind of ``law & Order`` but our government is trying .. atleast we have some kind of law.

Secondly... it sounds like u dont like military power... you criticize the army for throwing the govt out every few years,yet you dont look at the reason behind it.Why does the army do that?Because the 2 major political parties bankrupted Pakistan.If Nawaz Sharif was the president any longer we would not have survived... Musharraf couldnt just sit there and watch Nawaz Sharif destroy Pakistan.He had to do something!!

Maybe Musharraf craved for Power...maybe that is why he is now the president but atleast we got rid of Those Two Stupid Parties!!!Good Riddance!

Brahmin and Mullah Reply #: 6

Eklavya

I think the author is just trying to prove a point here... hes just telling us what he thought about that ramayan movie.. hes not dis-respecting his friends father or insulting his religious enthusiasam and u say it. It doesnt matter where he saw the movie.. what matters is what he thought about indians and hinduism after that. movie.

#: 21 ylh

``Just because Junoon app ko ghass dalte hain doesnt mean that they are not nationalistic Pakistanis...``

haha that was some reply:P... i agree with u whole-heartedly.!

#: 23 ylh

I agree with you there aswell... thank God there are some intelligent ppl around here. ( no offence intended everyone)

The Quest for Power actually i dont even care who has the power anymore...and i think that the majority of people in pakistan are just tired and dont give a damn about who is in power.Journalists can criticize the govt as much as they want to...our two major political parties and other parties can do the same...but what good will come out of it?everyone just wants the FEEL of power...and every GOVT will do the same be it military or others ... be it martial law or democracy...we`ll still be the puppets doing whatever America wants us to do.There will be no changes.and that is the reason why most of the pakistanis have lost interest in their political and economic condition.

The Quest for Power Reply #: 71 drcheema

i agree with you.Mushahid sahab is talking about how and what changes musharraf is going to make...what good will he do for pakistan...and criticizing him when he himself was the right-hand man of Nawaz Sharif... who corrupted the country and brought it to the point of bankruptcy.

An Eulogy For The Hawks Reply #: 11

Godot

Why thankyou kind Sir... i hope u werent being sarcastic and even if u were ill be a good little gurl and ignore ur sarcasm...rather ill take ur comment as a compliment :)

by the way maybe how one writes and expresses himself does matter but if u dont give ppl a chance then how will they be able to improve their written english?

I think everyone should be given a chance..no matter how they write....i think chowk did the write thing by publishing this article..why is it that ppl with good english can only get their articles published???thats really not fair.

An Eulogy For The Hawks Give the author a break guys....I agree with stuka Reply #: 7.We shouldnt look at the authors english rather we should look at what he is saying.And anyway waht does it matter if his english is poor..our first language is urdu (and if the author is an indian) then his first language is hindi so what does it matter if he cant write proper english...its nothing to be embarrassed of or be criticized for...so plzz give the author a chance and criticize his views rather than his command over the english language.

Consequences That was very well written Nausheen...I wish i could write like that :)