Non-Reformist but Non-Cleric #6 by shishapa
You mean we invite Turks to fight for Kashmir as we helped them against Greece?

Mr. Ahmed “He has no idea what he’s dealing with” Do you have any idea “What you were dealing with??”

He gave you your own medicine, Guy was nice to you and you had enough common ground to talk about, then why you started with Hindu history and brought religion in the conversation at the first place with a person you hardly know? Besides what sort of “historic” similarities you were trying to find even if Afghanistan was a Hindu state some frekin 1000 years ago?? So deal with the reality check my friend. His heritage/religion is important for him so as yours for you. I am not seeing any difference between an educated afghan Muslim and educated Indian Hindu.

Caste and the City Question to all those who comments about discrimination in Islam, Sikhism, Buddhism and Christianity my question is

Does any of those religions propagate religious classes or divide followers on the bases of cast or occupation?
Is there few are more equal to Almighty on the basis of there last name?
Is any of those religions stopping there followers in mingling with each other because of there cast/last name/occupation?

The only religion which preaches all those things is Hinduism, which was apparently the dominant religion of the united India. For the rest of religious minorities it is unavoidable not to be influenced in your personal life from the majority rituals in a homogeneous society. The discrimination you guys are talking about in other religions at individual level is basically driven from there not by the very own roots of those religions. One can quote hundred of thousands examples about religious equality at personal level in Islam, Sikhism, Buddhism and Christianity.

Caste and the City Again the biggest barrier in mixing is religion. If you look at South American countries they are predominantly Christians. Religion is not playing a dividing role, one way or other they are following same religion. And by all means there religion (Christianity) is not dividing them on the bases of profession or social class they belong to.

Second if one look at your argument, Then why this division/discrimination is only part of Hinduism? Sikhism, Buddhism or Islam they all flourish in same region under same circumstances, we are not seeing this sort of division there, do we? Which means its more of the structure of religion, in Hinduism few group of people are more equal then others. They have more rights and prestige and to preserve there very own rights/prestige they promote caste system which is somehow backed by religious values.

Caste and the City Well religion is the most active player in formation of Indian society. What else you can think of, when dominating religion is comprised of cast system. No offence, but I haven’t seen any other religion which divide its followers on the bases of there cast/profession.

And to my surprise you guys still talk about “Bhangi Colony” in Lahore!!

The Nylon Descent Nazar sahib…

Thanks for sharing such a thrilling memory….
What you think who played the vital role in saving your life? “Bakras” or some intelligent person who come up with the idea of replacing Migs seats from Chinese to British.
Besides its always good to be lucky!!
Cheers

Big Brother is Watching It’s a big step in right direction. Availability of correct data can lead to better forecasting and planning.
Almost all the developed countries have such sort of data available about there people (ever wonder what kind of information credit bureau’s have in there reports about individuals?).

Fake Degrees for the Big Boys in Pakistan Just out of curiosity, from where you got yours?? Coz it’s not only in Pakistan, here in west plenty of one room universities are also rewarding degrees to those who can buy.

By writing such a stupid article on a board like this you are putting yours and all other Pakistani’s legitimate credentials under radar.
Oh Lord; save us from so called literate people with no common sense.

Shaukat Aziz’s Speech: Hypocrisy at its Best “Shaukat Aziz, as the Prime Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan” and then you are asking him to through religion out of the country;
Do you have any slightest clue about earthy facts??? Even if we have a fair referendum on this issue, not more then 10% of population is going to back you. So stay cool coz in democracy a donkey and a horse have equal rights…..

The minorities are worse than third-class citizens in the country, and the despicable Blasphemy Law is hanging like a Damocles’ sword over their hapless necks.
This is true with 80% population of Pakistan, so why fuzz only about minorities? By all means they have equal opportunities. Infect more then others with the entire quota they have in political system.

Shaukat Aziz is the creature of the military. Period. Therefore it is a non-sequiter to expect a democratic demeanour from him.
If one take your argument in consideration, best political leader Pakistan ever produced “Zulfaqar Ali Bhutto” was a creature of military (Great son of Ayub Khan/Daddy). Is it going to shadow what he did for Pakistan?? If not then what’s wrong Shujat being puppet of military, if he can deliver some positive change for Pakistan??

Shaukat Aziz`s speech was cliché’-ridden, devoid of substance, credibility and conviction. It was highly disappointing for those who were looking for substantial proposals that could make an immediate difference to the lives of the ordinary people.
For that we really need to dig oil wells in Pakistan, by any other mean he is not having a magic stick which can turn things overnight. Even for stable economies five year period is a blink of eye… and you are asking to deliver overnight changes in a hardly struggling economy??

Although you put all the ingredients in this article to claim your sudo-intellectualism (secularism/banging Islam, Minority rights, curse the military etc….) but what the heck you are trying to say??

Muttiah Muralitharan No doubt Murli is a good bowler but not the greatest. He is still missing the class of a great bowler. Records alone can’t make one great. Its like at one point Kapil was the highest wicket taker but by all means he was not a great bowler of his era or in cricket history.

Rawalpindi Express is good for nothing. Fastest delivery in cricket history!! Who cares even if tale enders are throwing him out of boundary. For him its time to perform, actions speak louder then statements. Where as he is good only making statements, no performance so far.

Altaf Hussain Visits India: His Keynote Speech Yes exactly like they had Fakhar Zaman couple of years back at “World Punjabi Conference” in Chandigard. He was so proud saying “I am a Punjabi first then Pakistani”. No one asked him if he still believes on “Two Nation” theory.

Altaf Hussain Visits India: His Keynote Speech Why is this hypocrisy??

When Nawab Bugti get asylum in Afghanistan after launching a gorilla war against Pakistan Army (1978-79) no one complains, not even when he became CM of Balochistan, No one said that he is a traitor, no one asked how many Army man killed by his people or how many cases he have against him in courts.

When “Bacha Khan” talked and worked for demolishing dividend line (Pak-Afghan border) and creating a greater “Pashtoonistan” no one said he is a “non-patriotic”, enemy of Pakistan.

No one said Prime Minister Mr. Bhooto is a traitor when he raised “udher tum, idher hum” in 71, played a major role in breakup of Pakistan or creation of Bangladesh.

Even when Elder Son of Prime Minister Bhutto and elder Brother of Prime Minister Banezir Bhutto kidnapped PIA plane and killed hostages (Pakistani Citizens) they still remain “Pure Pakistani” “Son of Soil”. No question asked about there legitimacy.

No one said that Qazi Hussain (Jamat-Islami) and Nawaz Sharif is ISI agents when they form IJI against Benazir (As Ex army chief Baig accepted the charges that Army funded and was mastermind behind forming IJI against Benazir).

Even in recent history… no one asked a question about “Quabilis” legitimacy when they launched a full scale active war against Pakistan Army with the help of foreign terrorist’s (Attack Core Commander Karachi, killed Chinese engineers and killed hundred of military personals so far).


But when it comes to Mohajirs/MQM all of sudden “Son of Soil” start cursing MQM for all/any of its action. Why is this hypocrisy in behaviors???? Why some Pakistanis are more equal then others????

The Tailor Nicely translated!! Just a bit late for Halloween:)

Benazir Bhutto: Third Time Lucky? We have seen two tenures of BB, she brought nothing to Pakistan beside corruption, why bank on her?? Infect both of the main stream political leader are better off in exile, good for them and very very good for the people of Pakistan. We need leaders with vision, leaders who are willing to take drastic steps, not afraid of change. Not the leaders who support status quo and lick military for the sack of there own survivals.

And for those who think they are integral to flourish democracy in Pakistan, my question is how one can trust on them even when they are not democratic in there own party system?? (e.g. BB as PPP Chairperson for life).

The Allahabad I Knew A very nice article! Good to read about ancestor’s city. Beside, i heared Allahabad got the best ``Amrod`` in sub continent.

Train from Pakistan, 2004: The Return LOL @ High tipper Indians.. Man u makes me laugh….. you are so funny….

How about my fellow “Professional Indians” here in North America, who buy a Toyota Camry and always go to work by public transit so they can save miles and can get a better value when they sale there car…… better tippers HAHAHA…..

Wouldn’t surprise me if you will receive the best comedy writer of India award….