What are they Teaching in Pakistani Schools Today? We can lament and outline the problems of the Pakistani education system all we want on this discussion board.

For anyone who is really interested in rolling up their sleeve and actually doing something about it pls email me.

For those who wanted to know about NGO`s working in this field in Pakistan pls visit this site

www.care.org.pk. CARE is an NGO that has been working in Lahore and I have been involved in it. Currently we hope to register it in the U.S as an NPO (this process will take atleast a year).CARE has been given many Govt. MCL (muncipal corp of lahore) schools to run and the costs etc have increased considerably.Thus our need to register it in the U.S so that we can hopefully raise money in dollars and give people a tax break. So for anyone needing more info on CARE pls email me and anyone who would like to help their efforts will be appreciated.

Nushmia

nushmush@hotmail.com

What is lacking inside... MM

I could find very little do disagree with.......you have put a lot of my feelings into words,probably more effectively than I ever could.

I envy the fact that you are a muslim by faith,having decided for yourself, I unfortunately am what I am because I was born into it.

``It needs to be re-defined by young people who actually give a damn about the world, not just themselves.``

Very true, but easier said, whose definition to accept and if everyone redefines for themselves can we be benevolent enough to accept them all and be tolerant enough to live and let live or is that really not in the realms of Islam.

One of the facts that has always fasinated me is God`s promise that there could never be any change in the script of the Quran...and surely over the centuries there hasnt been ...any Quran from any corner of the world will be the same...an awesome feat,....but the irony of it is that though the script is identical its ambiguity has created so many interpretations that it really defeats the purpose. I was discussing this with a friend when he pointed out that maybe that really is the beauty of it.If Islam is the complete religion for all ages and all generations to come then it would be unrealistic to assume that hard and fast laws set down in black and white some 1400 years ago would hold true even today and 1000s of years from now.

As far as I know Islam was not just a religion it was a way of life, now it mostly resides in fancy embroidered cloth on a high shelf. Despite what some ppl have said on chowk (that we just critisize islam etc) I think it the opposite we don`t criticize enough, critisize in a way to analyze. People like the author describes as being in the gray zone (myself included) are really Islamophobic,we dont want to talk about it.The reason being mostly we do not know enough and secondly it is taboo. Our hesitency to apply rationality to revelation, lest it should change some old deep rooted belief, really disappoints me.

Eventhough Allah ordained that He had completed religion for mankind in the form of Islam it still has to evolve, evolve with mankind. Till then it will only breed the madrassah trained mullah who is a literalist to the bone or the cynic who really could not deal with the distortion of religion and decided to denounce it all,never really looking for a middle ground of his/her own.

Nushmia

The Real Face of Saudia Arabia I can`t imagine why you would think anyone would joke at your writing....your writing skills are quite adequate since you got the message across effectively.I wish there was more you and others like you could do to change your country...I have lived in Saudi Arabia, though it was many years ago, and the dismal condition of women and non saudi nationals was glaringly apparent.

``You are talented people, good workers, loving teachers, best doctors. Don`t throw everything away, trying to copy us and Iran. You have your own culture. Believe me you will miss it once your country is hijacked by Islamic fundamentalists.``

I am afraid it is already too late...Pakistan has been hijacked by the fundamentalistists....good workers (a disappearing species) loving teachers ( a rare commodity) and best doctors( are searching for lucrative private practice and hopes for esatblishing themselves in the U.S).

Nushmia

How I Spent Eid Re: Athar-I am -NOT-insecure Shiraz

Mine on the other hands does look appealing - atleast I would like to think so - I thought I should mention that just for your information

Thanks for the info, it was much appreciated..now my life is complete......

Insecure you are not...which is good cuz insecurity is never an attractive quality but neither is vanity...no I take that back, I like vanity in a person, substantiated egos...not come look at me I am sooooo great that I am drooling all over my self....slurp..slurp..

Baby I am so outrageous ... I am ashamed of showing my work to women (which why I write by the way) Yes, have no mistake I write so that I can impress women



If you write to impress women then why are you ashamed to show your work?????....and pray tell how do you go about impressing through your writings....is it the constant ref to your need for sexual gratification and extremely subtle references to your body and manhood...if that is the case just post a picture of yourself in a thong it will be much more appreciated .....

At the risk of sounding like a shrink and continuing the paternalistic psychoanalysis that has been done by others....I would say that you are deliberatly outrageous ...to evoke reactions but moreso to see who can stick around , how many will not shy away and take it without batting an eyelid, and of course how many women will not leave exclaiming tauba tauba......you are basking in all the attention..right??????

Anyways I haven`t explored the pandora`s box on your website...but i am sure it will help to break the mo notony of my other reading material.

Nushmia

P.S I missed the thundering applause...

And I think you are too easy a target for salesmen!! :)...and you must be every saleswoman`s dream come true ..:))

How I Spent Eid Solitude (prefer solitude to shiraz)

I found your account hilarious (sarcastic or otherwise)... it held my interest till the end (that is a big complement since my attn span is less then 15 sec) I was interested in seeing how the evening would end.. would have been happier for you had your evening ended with some pakistani girl ravishing your body like you soo badly crave.......

I almost ended up going to this party but opted for a more personal evening ...after reading your article and some of the comments I cannot make up my mind whether I should be relieved at not going or regret the fact that I missed the sight of a sexy body in Armani!!!!

Anyways, your account of encounters (or lack thereof)with hip gyrating gharara walis was amusing ...and like you said your self keep Islam out of it. I can`t understand how the discussion here turned to Islam etc...sheesh how did everyone get started on racism and black aramani....becomess black american becomes black veil and throw in some taliban and the name of the Holy prophet (pbuh)...it seems like another attempt by all to outwit the other and display what they assume to be a rare insight into God knows what, that only their profound declarations and exclamations are testimony to their superior neuronal pathways....Ok Ok all those topics are earth shatteringly important and deserve to be discussed and brought out into the open...but that has been done (and will be done) on almost all articles on chowk.....I don`t get the relevance here.....the poor guy (oops more ``taras`` from a paki female) just wrote about how he spent an evening and his observations.....can we leave it at that without waging jihad on all and waging counter jihad on all who wage jihad......

Will look forward to reading more of your stuff...if it has some of the wit and outrageous sentiments that your posts had :)

Nushmia