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The Princess and the Alley Cats
Posted by soysauce Jan 23, 2007 11:57 am
I don`t know how Imran Khan entered the picture - perhaps he`s pakistan`s Shilpa Shetty?
It looks as tho Zeemax and Naqshbandi wished they were like Imran.
Naqshbandi, your sentence - ``had HIS share of LOFTIEST CAUCASIAN women which YOU vegans can only ever have masturbatory fantasies about`` - makes me wonder if you are not the one doing the fantasizing.
There is a saying in my dark, short`n`ugly dravidian (TM) language that loosely translates as - even if mother & child, mouth & stomach are to each own. In the same vein, even if Imran was everything you wished to be, just remember, his genitals are not your genitals.
:)
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 16, 2007 08:54 pm
``[H]e`ll have been proved to have been one of the greatest men in any country at any time in history`` Mountbatten upon unveiling Nehru`s portrait in India House in London.
Video here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8369350139923914359&pr=goog-sl
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 9, 2007 04:19 pm
#575
Wolpert is irrelevant in the larger scheme of things as are derogatory remarks by pakis on Gandhiji or Nehru. What is relevant is how our present-day leaders are viewed because they are the only ones that are relevant for interstate relationships.

It`s rather weird to see people like Yasser making a career out of digging up dirt on other people`s icons and posting it all over the place just out of spite. His prophets had wobbly legs too (glass houses, stones, etc.)
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 9, 2007 10:32 am
Yasser,
As a resident of not-a-hell-hole pakistan, you should be grateful to Nehru. Had Jinnah prevailed, who knows, you might be a resident of hindustan or mughlaistan being forced to live alongside impure hindus.
I see where you are coming from tho. If only Nehru had rolled over and acceded to Jinnah`s demands, there would have been no calls to violence, no partition, no bloodshed. IT`S ALL THE OTHER GUY`S FAULT. This would be a fitting epitaph to your hero.
There`s a certain amount of irony that islamists like you (islamist = one who believes muslims and hindus are a monolith, muslims require special dispensation, special privileges far beyond what a secular state would provide, muslims cannot live as a minority, etc.) would find castism distasteful. It`s not that different from your ideology actually.
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 8, 2007 03:17 pm
#503 Do you know if Jinnah or any of the other founders of pakistan openly opposed the brits? Was anyone imprisoned?
I, Consumer
Posted by soysauce Jan 8, 2007 12:57 pm
As a short, dark and ugly dravidian, i feel better knowing hamidm2 has a daughter that looks like me :)
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 8, 2007 12:24 pm
It`s easy to look back on history and cast issues and characters right or wrong just as easily we can, with hindsight, and some wisdom see how events could have gone either way. Gandhiji, in this respect, had a sense of history and he was acting with a long-term view overall.
It`s easy for us to say identity politics is bad, Jinnah should have stuck with secular, united india no matter what, etc., but interest group politics is very human. Secularism is almost an artificial construct. Democracy is artificial, primates like to be led by alpha males, vegetarianism is artificial, acting against your immediate self interest is artificial and looking out for global health is artificial.
I am glad Jinnah won out, taking with him like-minded individuals who believed that people are defined by their private beliefs and that the State should be controlled by these beliefs, that a hierarchical system run by alpha males is the best system for humans and that we were left behind to run our affairs with an artificial and flawed system.
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 8, 2007 12:13 pm
#491 ``her emasculation`` sounds weird and contradictory - her enslavement, perhaps?
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 8, 2007 12:11 pm
#490 I am not a history buff nor am i very knowledgeable, Ijaz Gul is probably refering to the ``Discovery of India`` which i think was more of an effort to educate Indira on the grandness of historical india and her emasculation by the uncivilized west. The mughal period gets little mention in it.
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 8, 2007 11:50 am
Just to clarify, like most modern indians i am not sorry pakistan happened. I only wish there were no bloodshed accompanying partition. Other than the brits, Jinnah was the one most responsible for the increased acrimony and violence.
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 8, 2007 11:48 am
ranjit, various
Your arguments are revisionist and from a hindutvavadi playbook.
Nehru`s position vis-a-vis pakistan was completely understandable if you take into account that he did not believe that hindus and muslims could not live together in a republic. The state would be blind to the individual citizen`s religious faith - this is the height of secularism. Pakistan was a mistake that Nehru could not easily accept. He was not acting to secure the interests of hindus by any stretch. Wanting fair play is not discriminating against muslims altho that was Jinnah`s view, which you are now echoing.
Your point that 90% can act secular more easily is silly and simple minded. One could easily argue that a larger fraction of muslims would have made sure that india was secular in principle and in practice.
Once partition happened, Nehru had to act in the best interests of his country. He didn`t have to accomodate whiners from other, hostile nations. This was not pro hindu and anti-muslim. Without a strong secularist like him, india too would have got rid of her minorities as pakistan has and to a large extent, even bangladesh has. If anything, his actions have been favorable to indian muslims by strengthening secular principles.
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by soysauce Jan 5, 2007 01:04 pm
This has degenerated into an abuse fest, thanks to Yasser, who has nothing positive to contribute about anything. I`d caution everyone against going by his quotes. He made up a whole bunch of stuff about Gandhiji that he claimed to have come from Freedom at Midnight. Turned out he couldn`t find the correct quote after i pestered him for days on end. He is as trusty as a used car salesman on new jersey turnpike.
The Canadian Dream: Never Fulfilled
Posted by soysauce Jan 5, 2007 12:58 pm
It`s an interesting article and i wonder how much of this is anecdotal. I can find overqualified workers both foreign-born and natives who are languishing in dead-end jobs unrelated to their field of interest in the US. I wouldn`t extrapolate from that to damn the entire immigrant experience.
What i have heard is that it is relatively easy if you are highly educated to get an immigrant visa to canada which means that there are a great many more accidental (i.e. non-motivated) academically qualified immigrants in canada compared to the US. This could be another factor.
I don`t get your comparison of BC to ``other comparable international cities.
In favor of your argument somewhat, canadian universities are quite parochial when it comes to hiring for teaching jobs - they explicitly favor canadian citizens and canada educated. Strange considering the faculty hired 2 generations ago were mainly british and they`re doing all right.
Banker of the Poor
Posted by soysauce Jan 4, 2007 06:20 pm
Urstruly one more thing. Have you entertained the possibility that your idea is not in practice because it may not be practical?
As they say, even a thousand mile journey begins with a single step. You can set ambitious goals but if you are not taking any steps to implement them, then they are no use.
Banker of the Poor
Posted by soysauce Jan 4, 2007 06:15 pm
#33 urstruly, i am beginning to wonder if there is not a serious disconnect. Microcredit is NOT a welfare system so stop comparing it to what`s going on everywhere else. As others have mentioned its purpose was to finance those who would not otherwise be financed by traditional institutions and make them self reliant. In that it seems to have achieved notable success. Several million lifted out of poverty due to a non-governmental effort is phenomenal and Dr. Younis has deservedly gained recognition for that.
Going back to distributing risk over the entire community of borrowers, it doesn`t sound cruel to me and i don`t quite grasp what your problem is. My insurance rate goes up, among other things, if there are catastrophes that put heavy demand on insurance companies. I can either agree to share in the burden or go without insurance. I know what i`d choose every time. Borrowers having to shoulder the burden of a fraction defaulting is very reasonable. Why should i pay for building some fancy freeways in michigan when i can get around just fine on my bicycle? It`s part of the social compact.
Banker of the Poor
Posted by soysauce Jan 4, 2007 01:26 pm
#29 You`re just arbitrarily defining terms. If, say, there`s $10k available and $1k of that is annual administrative cost, then $9k is available to lend in the first year. If 10% of the borrowers default, cow died, business failed, whatever the reason, at the end of the first year, there`s only $8100 in assets. Now what?
You can view that part of the interest that goes into growing the program as tax that the successful borrowers pay into the program so more people can borrow.
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