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The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People\'s Party
Posted by chaltahai Sep 18, 2007 10:11 am
Kaal, who so ever has the power? So what happened to Authencity and non-authenticity per your logic? You are now saying that since the Fluff as you put it is greater in number than the core it is ok if they draft the rules for social governance and interaction? What the heck happened to perfect system for humans, logical, truly divine and all that other stuff? You are beginning to scare me with the waffling..don;t go all John Kerry on me..:-(
The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People\'s Party
Posted by chaltahai Sep 18, 2007 10:08 am
Laddu, Kaal is indeed from this world. I can guarantee it. There are a lot of people who think how he does. Thre have been a lot of people hwo have thought like this. The earth was flat, woman came from the spleen of a man, teh earth is 7000 years old, thunder means God just bowled a strike in the bowling alley up in heaven...then fucking science comes in and screws everything up. Damn you SCIENCE!! but there is a way around it..retrofit it!!!
The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People\'s Party
Posted by chaltahai Sep 18, 2007 10:00 am
Kaal, if the authentic islam is the fluff what happens? I will tell you what happens..you have disharmony from philippines to the US. Because the fluff tries to impose stringency in an evlving world. they get frustrated and then kaboom..

You erroneously start with the supposition that the outer edge of the authentic islam black hole is fluff. It the core that is fluff, the outer edge is real. Hundreds of millions to prove it (since you like numbers)
The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People\'s Party
Posted by chaltahai Sep 18, 2007 09:49 am
Clifty, now now..don;t go all Masadi on Laddu. :-)

Constitutions in pakistan are like opinions..everyone has one. Consitutions can't trump the good book, can they?
The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People\'s Party
Posted by chaltahai Sep 18, 2007 09:40 am
Not true laddu..not Pakistanis as a whole but authentic islam following pakistanis. Ain't that right, kaal bhai..:-)
The Transformation of the Punjabi Man: Pashtunization or Militarization?
Posted by chaltahai Sep 17, 2007 12:21 pm
Kaal, how about my weather miracle. Circular logic of writing it down that I am going to do it and then using that as the very proof of my divinity and then finding some arabs to follow it. (the latter piece is very easy because arabs are pretty dumb). that should be enough..no? Heck I have alrady performed a miracle of controlling the weather.

Actually, the truth is not what people believe in. Opinions are what what people believe in. Truth stands upon its own legs independent of people. So when I melt the antarctic ice shelf, it is a universally accepted phenomenon or a truism. the rest is just kneeling and bobbing stuff.
Ultimate Fate of the Universe
Posted by chaltahai Sep 17, 2007 12:13 pm
Nice article. jamil sahib and VRV, do you think the CERN Hadron Collider could help us get closer to understanding the universe at a quantum level or if you think that there is a unified theory of physics at our fingertips with field equations to match.

Stuff like this has always fascinated me..too bad I never had the patience for academic science
The Transformation of the Punjabi Man: Pashtunization or Militarization?
Posted by chaltahai Sep 17, 2007 11:56 am
ah the reductionist approach..ok..I won't question THE KAAL. :-)

I will do one better..say..."there is no god but chaltahai..and all this prophet bullshit is just that" varna I too can be cruel and shoot a laser beam into antarctica to melt the ice. phir pata chalayga bachchoo!! :-p
The Transformation of the Punjabi Man: Pashtunization or Militarization?
Posted by chaltahai Sep 17, 2007 11:38 am
Kaal, are you sure God makes weather? What if I went to antarctica and melted a chunk of the iceshelf..the impact on hurricanes alone would be tremendous. Will you worship me?
The Transformation of the Punjabi Man: Pashtunization or Militarization?
Posted by chaltahai Sep 17, 2007 10:14 am
Good, so there is still hope for punjabi pakistanis to de-jihadify islam..
The Transformation of the Punjabi Man: Pashtunization or Militarization?
Posted by chaltahai Sep 17, 2007 10:05 am
Kaal, is there something wrong with making religion conform to you rather than you conform to it?
Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom
Posted by chaltahai Sep 16, 2007 07:58 am
Oh and Kaal, hindus or others don't like sufis because they are afraid of islam or want to change islam or need islam 101. They like it because Sufis represent Islam in the best light. The representation of your authentic Islam is evident all the way from philippines to the US. Where ever there is a sizeable minorty of authentic muslims, there is conflict. Such ideology doesn't seem very practical at all, regardless of your hopeful wishes.
Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom
Posted by chaltahai Sep 16, 2007 07:52 am
Funny stuff Hamid :-)

Kaal, tell me why sufism isn't an improvement over your version of authentic Islam. In the meantime I will stick to my theory of change as the constant and change happening at the fringes of every idealogy until the fringe becomes as relevant as the core ideology. This happens because the fringe comes into contact with what is around us. the core, while foolishly holding on to tenets and mandates, fights aimlessly to preserve itself but loses in the end as the tenets can't handle the change.

take tahmed below..if he was walking around in saudi and said, what he wrote the religious police would make him kneel and bob right on the street during jumma. this is the insecurity of the core or authentic islam as you put it. It is not an endearing trait, it is the exact opposite. While tahmed might be a perfectly good muslim, i.e. being born into islam, sees things from a muslim p.o.v. Loves the egality promoted by islam. May even ccondone jihad against the dirty hindoos...but he also likes to watch brittney spears videos, he has a beer once in a while, can lipsynch "Voh Krishna hai"...and that puts him on the fringe. The funny thing is that the fringe is a lot bigger in Islam than the core, you want to hark back to. :-) Damn that Brittney
Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom
Posted by chaltahai Sep 15, 2007 08:54 pm
Kaal, hinduism has not become fake Islam but fake as what you deem authentic Islam. BTW, It is much easier for hinduism to become authentic unlike islam..which unfortunately is sullied for ever. Therein lies the rub, bub.

Oh and genuine authentic islam IS all foolishness. And this has nothing to do with hindusim. This authencity or rigidity (probably the right word for the qattribute) you hold as some exalted virtue within Islam is actually the reason for the incompatibity of muslims within the ever changing world. It is similar to your hindu liberal lamentations..the more they resist and hark back to bells and whistles free islam, the more segmented it gets.

Hindus like Sufism because it shows that Islam has an ability to change. Not because it is a threat to some instransient version of islam. Change is the only constant that you can count on..dogma hasn't a chance and seems almost unnatural
Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom
Posted by chaltahai Sep 15, 2007 07:39 pm
Tahmed, I like lowly pakis man..especially you...what do you have against lowly pakis?.
Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom
Posted by chaltahai Sep 15, 2007 07:34 pm
Kaal (disregard 249, I am not drunk..I promise) , sufism like ahmedism doesn't strive in pakiland not because hindus can't live with islam..but because muslims deem them outside the fold of their religion. It is this insecurity within Islam that makes educated, logical and most sensible people draft legal mandates to declare ahmedis non-muslims in a man-made constitution. (how ridiculous is that?) Sorry..no hindu has anything to with this. It is an entirely islamic phenomenon. There is no authentic islam btw. There is no authentic religion..because it there was, it would be gone forever..faith cannot stand the strains of time..like you..it tries to retrofit the surroundings (which are constantly changing..into neat little boxes to make sense of them per the boundaries laid out thousands of years ago. Silly..ain't it. :-)
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