War of Another Kind Zeemax, go to wana wana or wherever the fk you jihaids blow each other in NWFP, if you see a predator drone circling overhead, just turn around and moon it (your shalwar should already be around your ankles per the dress code among jihadi hijras), when the hellfire comes and lands in your gaand, look at teh inscription. it will say "paid for by CHaltahai's taxes"

that will bring clairty to your quesiton in #306

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? GT, in absence of any good options..(frankly what you suggested just won't work) this is the action of last resort. What do you think these people do? Wearing burkhas and excaping the jawans at lal masjid, hiding beind civilian population in lebanon and palestine... if the mode of combat in dealing with hijrays is to sift them out from teh local population who wittingly or unwittingly protects them, then hellfires is the way to go. It is not a matter of being happy or sad.

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? GT, you mean something like GITMO no? someplace where they can be put far far away so that their death cult mentaility doesn't corrupt beautiful paki minds.

But that would mean, you will have to get them. It is not like you will have them surrender, considering the only group who has a history of surrendering is well...the pakistani army. So a bit of a struggle, but can be overcome

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? tampax, kitna geela hai re! :)

Many hinjews and pakistanis have no issue being American or Brit first..that is why the hellfires and daisy cutters have their logo on it. Their taxes paid for them..chutiyay, not yours!!! so piss off!!

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? hamidm yaar, things are already looking good. Hellfires in NWFP, Palestine is halved already, Chechans are busy buying Chanel No. 5 in booming Moscow malls, Filipinos are going on vacations in Mindanao and Kashmiris are clamoring for BPO centers. Jihadis are getting spanked and the future is bright.

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? GT, It woudl be fine to have those high browed methods of dealing with vermin if they were only hurting pakistanis. But reality is that pakistani jihadis have been invloved and or linked to terrorism on a global scale..and the last attempt at "talking" to them didn't really work out....too well.

So the mantra now is, if you don;t do it, someone else will. And if someone else (US) does it, then the sovereignty of a democractically elected country is well...usurped.

there are no good options here. But I agree with tahmed, this is pakistan's fight to own and win.

War of Another Kind kaal yaar, it almost always comes down to subjectivity and relativity. Injustice to a muslim might not be injustice to a non-muslim and vice versa. To suggest that muslim perception of injustice should be universal is not only stupid, it belittles muslims to nothing more than kneeling and bobbing automatons who haven't a working brain cell to understand the other viewpoint. I am sure this is not what you are suggesting.

Secondly, robbing me for my own good because you perceive it to be something beneficial for me and yourself is another idiocy that can land people in the nuthouse.


Lastly, what muslims perceive as injustice or not is irrelevant. They haven't the power, the resources or the intellect to promote their views in a manner that 5/6th of humanity understands. All this jihadism etc..is not some coordinated strategic push for establishing the word of god. It is simply a cry for help for seeing the word of man trump the word of god. They are getting left behind...and if that means tehy should be separated from the rest of the world, as per their wishes and that might in some way lead to a revival of a khilafa or something, than so be it. The next few hundred years are the age of the idol worshippers...and payback is a bitch.

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? tahmed, if pakistani like you are for going after and killing these jihadis then I am sure the future is bright for the country.

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? Well

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? No one can disagree that the pak army has to FIGHT the jihadis on Pakistani soil. (except for internet jihadis like Tampax, ofcourse) The question is do you think the pakistani people have the stomach for a fight like this...I mean..out in the open. Because what the jihadis have learned is the strategy of "thousand cuts". It didn;t work with India, do you think it will fail here as well?

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? tahmed yaar, you said that the gov't has declared this is "our war"..can you clarify , how would they deal with the jihadi menace differently than how the army has dealt with it so far...some food for thought
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Army Chief in Pakistan Wins Honor From U.S.
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By ERIC SCHMITT
Published: April 2, 2008
WASHINGTON — Since Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani took command of Pakistan’s Army last November, a parade of top American officers and spymasters has trooped to Islamabad to urge him to wage an aggressive campaign against Al Qaeda and other militants in the country’s restive tribal areas.

The American officials have come away gushing about the Pakistani general’s military prowess and his commitment to disentangle the army from domestic politics. General Kayani’s predecessor, Pervez Musharraf, resigned last year to become a civilian president.

So perhaps it was just a coincidence when a letter from the United States Embassy in Islamabad arrived in General Kayani’s mailbox last week, congratulating him on being selected for the United States Army Command and General Staff College’s International Hall of Fame.

The hall “honors those officers of United States allies’ militaries who have attained the highest command positions in their national service component or within their nation’s armed forces,” Maj. Gen. James R. Helmly, the embassy’s defense representative, wrote in a letter to General Kayani on March 20.

Asked whether General Kayani’s selection was an attempt to curry favor with the officer, one American military official said Tuesday, “Absolutely not.”

General Kayani is a 1988 graduate of the Army college, which is at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., and provides advanced training to the Army’s most promising officers and to some foreign officers.

Lt. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV, the commander of the Army’s Combined Arms Center, which includes the college, said that General Kayani was the fourth Pakistani officer named to the hall, and met the requirements that he was a graduate and the chief of his service. The Army has admitted 227 officers from more than 60 countries since the hall was established in 1973. (Mr. Musharraf, who did not attend the college, is not among them.)

New US Strategy Needed in Afghanistan and Pakistan you guys are out of your skull if you think that the allocation methodologies of the arab soverign funds would tilt towards pakistan in this decade or next.

PE might be able to take some minimal risks based on some smart pakistanis family connections in pakistan. But SWF's are not PE types. They are more like FoF's but more conservative. They will put money into institutions with track record of providng historical returns. It might hurt you even more to hear this...but SWF's woudl rather put money into Hinjew India than muslim pakistan, any day of the week.

New US Strategy Needed in Afghanistan and Pakistan I don't know what the hubub is but the US policy of having the jihadis fight their co-religionists is working quite well.. Even the strategy for carving up islamic nations into smaller piece is also working quite well. This is good shit..people. Happy muharram to everyone.

Pakistan: The War of Drones jihadis are easily impressed...whether it is commonplace words like "vacuous"...or whether it is bare hairy forearm sticking out of the bukha of their cousin.

Pakistan: The War of Drones ajeya, from the partition fiasco to communal riots to violence against ethinic, caste based and other minorities, Modern India doesn't really have a sellar reputation in "ahimsa" non-sense....

there is a misconception among the jihadis that non-muslims would still idly by and watch their livlihood ururped by allah's warriors. non-muslims, as I have been saying, are smarter, richer, stronger, more in number, and have institutional backing to fight islamists.

One suicide bomb in a mall in the US, would mean, the end of Iran as we know it. When the nuclear winter wears off in Mecca, jewish kids will go ice skating on Lake Mecca with kaaba as the local Hot Dog stand.

islamists should have fought the battle with the other muslims first, get insitutionalized and then taken on the non-muslims...they done fk'ed up. they went in the reverse order and are now getting spanked from philippines to amreeka.

Pakistan: The War of Drones Urstruly, secularism doesn;t mean "lack of religion"...it means non-primacy of one.

A huge weakness of islam is that it is illequipped to battle forces outside the religious spectrum. believers might feel superior and might feel they are doing allah's bidding and can possibly even offer salvation to adherents of otehr religions on a comparable basis. But when it comes to secular thought or atheism, which basically either puts islam in parity with other religions or spiritual belief or frankly, and rightfully so, laughs it off as some fantastical bedouin tale..islam and islamists haven't a chance. they will always lose. as we are seeing across the world now. this is the natural order of things..it is time for islamists to accept that Jesus will not come back to defeat a one eyed monster (which I have in my pants by the way)..it is over kids...what the prophet did in 621 AD has little relevance to what Kaal does in 2008.