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Uneven Democracy : The Cry from Chhattisgarh
Posted by majumdar Nov 20, 2009 08:20 pm
The author is a certified commie fool as Mohar bhai has rightly pointed out but he has a valid point. The Naxalites are evil folks like the Talibs but they feed on some genuine grievances. It is a fact that tribals have been forcibly dispossessed of their land and livelihood (meagre as that is) in favour of mining and timber interests. This is no capitalism where folks are dispossessed of their assets without their concurrence, due compensation and attempts at rehabilitation.

However, AP and his likes shud introspect on their own karnameys. They cheered on Indira and Jawahirulah when they were launching their assault on private enterprise and ownership of wealth and assets esp when Indira abolished the right to property in the 1970s. Now that it has been established that right to porperty does not exist, naturally the tribals are fair game too. At least the wealthy can resort to bribery, benaami transactions and legal trickery to protect themselves, poor folks can't do that.

Regards
On Reason, Freedom and Democracy
Posted by majumdar Oct 29, 2009 12:04 am
Pls note that Masadi sb has been banned and so cannot respond to you.

Regards
Waziristan Operation
Posted by majumdar Oct 23, 2009 06:48 am
Pew,

Shud by any chance the Waziris win and the Mehsud bravehearts end up in Isloo, I think you can mark #188 and the original post by FM Romair to Amir Hakimullah.

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Waziristan Operation
Posted by majumdar Oct 23, 2009 05:52 am
Arjun mian,

You can also paste his I famous t-shirt post as well as the post where he had promised to personally lead the USAF into A'stan.

Regards

(Shud the Taliboon win by any chance, I am sure they will give FM Romair a proper Islamic trial.)
Waziristan Operation
Posted by majumdar Oct 22, 2009 11:12 pm
Romair,

By and large I agree that both Afghan Wars were not started by the Pakis, Russians started the first war, the US the second. But Pakis did participate enthusiastically in both (although one can argue that the decision to enter both were taken by non-representative military govt) and no one can deny that the Talibs were created in the first place by Pakis during BB's second regime.

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 19, 2009 03:39 am
Bhs mian,

Qadiyan is in Indian Punjab, not Gujarat.

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 19, 2009 02:48 am
Bhs mian,

Killing a person who is not a threat to you or your family or your community, so you could enter heaven? Enlighten me on that.

That is wrong of course.

But you are asking the wrong person- like our beloved Qaid (pbuh) anyway I believe that an individual's religion ought to be no business of the state.

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 19, 2009 01:46 am
Sattar bhai,

Re: 105

Thanks, I stand corrected. So let me rephrase myself- you guys are still Muslims if belief in the Finality of Prophethood is not binding on Muslims.

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 19, 2009 01:17 am
Bhs mian,

ismailis have been clever,

Curious that you shud mention the Agakhanis in a discussion mainly devoted to Mirzaees. Reminds me of a dear friend-Tahir mian.

Incidentally I did read up in one website (run evidently by an Indian Sunni Muslim) which I can't quite recall that the creation of Pakistan itself was a Agakhani-Mirzaee conspiracy (at the behest of Brits and high caste Hindoos) against Muslims of the subcontinent.

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 19, 2009 01:03 am
In addition to #99

I understand that the only Pakistani general to have been martyred fighting the Hanood was a Mirzaee- Gen Ifti Janjua. Many more Pakistani generals have been martyred- but mostly it was fighting fellow Muslims.

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 19, 2009 12:57 am
Sattar bhai,

A prophet, if you ask me.

Well, then you and your fellow Mirzaees wud not be Muslims. Unless of course belief in Khatam-e-Nabuwwat is not a binding requirement for Muslims.

Fighting jihad indeed a part of Islam, per Ahmadi-Muslim views.

If I understand correct, the Mirzaee community did set up a jihadi unit called Furqan brigade to "liberate" Kashmir in 1947. I presume this group is still active and Mirzaees are still joining the Furqan group in large numbers to "liberate" Kashmir even today.

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The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 19, 2009 12:44 am
Romair (#90), Zee sb (#78),

Then the sensible thing on part of the Mirzaees wud be to accept MGAQ as a reformer (rtaher than as a Prophet) and get on with life.

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 19, 2009 12:23 am
Sattar bhai,

Since you are here, can you clarify pls. Was MGAQ sb a Prophet or a reformer/interpreter of Islam?

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 18, 2009 11:58 pm
Zee sb,

Re: 81

One reform he introduced I believe is that he outlawed jihad-ing.

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 18, 2009 11:48 pm
Zee sb,

I understand Chachoo is a Lahori, is that right?

Can you briefly summarise the Lahore-Qadiani dispute and the status of the two communities on UP?

Regards
The White Rose
Posted by majumdar Oct 18, 2009 10:15 pm
Anilji,

Ok let me rephrase this. Let us say that he was a mere sectarian leader who interpreted Islam. Now as long as MGAQ and his followers accept that and if his interpretation of Islam did not voilate the basic principles of Islam, then Mirzaees can be accepted as Muslims, no?

Regards

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