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They Changed My God
Posted by ffk May 17, 2002 10:55 pm
for RSaxena and other atheists

the arguments u give for being an atheist from the few of the many of ur postings in reply here:

1.education needed not religious buildings.

2.science and religion conflict

my reply is:

The very first revelation of the Qura`an, Surah Al-Alaq Ayah 1-5:

[96:1-5] Read! In the name of your Lord who created - Created the human from something which clings. Read! And your Lord is Most Bountiful - He who taught (the use of) the Pen, Taught the human that which he knew not.

Read! The first word Allah conveys to us through Qura`an.

and:

[3:190-191] Verily in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day - there are indeed signs for men of understanding;

[21:30] ...And We made every living thing from water...

[24:45] And Allah has created every animal from water...

and the currently believed by the scientists that life did originate in water.

and i copy the following from an essay a friend composed:

Finally, the Qur`an gives a fascinating account of embryological development (the first three months) in the following verses (certain words have been transliterated directly from the Arabic):

[23:14] ...We made the drop into an ALAQAH (leech-like structure), and then We changed the ALAQAH into a MUDGHAH (chewed-like substance), then We changed the MUDGHAH into IDHAAM (bones, skeleton), then We clothed the IDHAAM with LAHM (flesh, muscles), then We caused him to grow and come into being as another creation.

[22:5] ...We created you out of dust, then out of a drop, then out of a MUDGHAH, partly formed and partly unformed...

Verse [23:14] divides embryological development into four stages. The first stage picks up right after fertilization (``drop``), and is characterized by an ALAQAH or ``leech-like structure`` which describes how the egg implants itself into the uterus (see above). The second stage describes the embryo as evolving into a MUDGHAH which means something which has been chewed (especially a piece of meat), or which has the appearance of having been chewed. This seemingly crude description is in fact quite accurate: after the fertilized egg lodges itself in the uterus, it begins to receive its first nutrients and energy from its mother. Consequently, it begins to grow especially rapidly, and after a week or two it looks like a ragged piece of meat to the naked eye. This effect is enhanced by the development of small buds and protrusions which will eventually grow into complete organs and limbs.

The next two stages described in verse [23:14] tell of bones being made from the MUDGHAH, followed by the ``clothing`` of the bones with flesh or muscles. If we follow the progress of the embryo with our own eyes, we find that after approximately four weeks, a process called `differentiation` begins, where groups of cells within the embryo transform themselves to form certain large organs. One of the earliest structures to develop in this stage is the cartilaginous basis of the human skeleton (in subsequent months, the cartilage hardens or ossifies). It is followed soon after by the appearance of a host of other organs including muscles, ears, eyes, kidneys, heart, and more. This maintains the order described in the Qur`an. Verse [23:14] concludes with the growth of the organism in the womb (and simple growth is the primary characteristic of the fetal stage) followed by its birth.

Verse [22:5] adds one more interesting note on the embryo. In this verse, the MUDGHAH is qualified with the phrase

``partly formed and partly unformed.``

....even my own knowledge of the quraan is incomplete, and i`d like to add that just like we need to know of a particular scientific field or anyother to talk of it, i say first gather knowledge about waht islam really teaches! then if Allah wishes He may turn ur heart...and if u still remain atheist ,..what can i say.



They Changed My God
Posted by ffk May 17, 2002 10:55 pm
would like to add another important thing:

`And if your Lord pleased all men on earth would become faithful. So do u want to force them into becoming muslim?`

(Surah Yunus-99)

u also say that if God existed why do things like innocent children suffereing take place?

.ofcourse what i will reply to it u mite not even care reading but still

According to Allah, what He has told us thru the quran, when we die and are presented before HIm, we will feel that we just spent a few days on earth and not a lifetime. then the eternal life will begin and the real pain and joy experienced.

and Allah is genderless.




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