Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out? #49 Posted by MatloobZaman,

... if we just began to look towards each other with a love that should exist in brotherhood I believe that our problems will simply go away.

Very noble thoughts indeed, but not in deed!

For a start, you should ask your MQM to stop claiming Karachi as 'Our City', and stop killing innocent people because they don't want a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to enter Karachi. Only then, anyone in the other areas of Pakistan like the North you mention will believe you.

In any event, this 'our city' claim becomes even more ludicrous when now the same people who proudly claim the ability to shut down Karachi in a day with their thugs, and use that threat as leverage to extract political benefits from the majority parties at both the Federal and Provincial level, are getting hoarse appealing everyday to the common Karachi Citizens to form 'Civil Defence Committees' against encroaching Talibanisation.

What? Unbelievable!

Is it that the Black Tigers who can shut down Karachi in one day, cannot defend the Karachi Citizens against some rag tag tribal mullahs? The citizens will need to do it themselves this time around?

Roshni moks bro,

Here, when I post Indian Bhangra, the hindus say I should be posting Naa'ts instead. So a thick skin is recommended!

Congrats again for passages like these:

"If you were to have a husband, I think I should have to kill him at some point.”

She nodded. “That would be unpleasant.”

“Yes," said he. "I’m sorry.”

“It’s alright,” said she quietly.

Roshni Thank you Sir! What delightful writing. One can almost feel standing there in the garden with the great Mughals, listening in to that characteristically royal conversation.

Welcome.

Government Wins Manmohan Singh Loses What's this news about Shiv Senaks barging into Taj Mahal to do puja? Have they made a new God/dess out of Shah Jehan/ Mumtaz Mahal now?

But what about passages from the Qur'an all over the walls?

Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out? #44 Posted by majumdar,

Yes I agree an overall number of 70,000 is credible.

Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out? #41 Posted by majumdar,

There are mass graves recently discovered in the Valley. 70,000 in two decades at the given level of conflict appears credible maybe 10% +(-).

Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out? #39 Posted by rf786,

You claimed 70% of Revenue. And that's the banner claim of MQM as well which was my point, so I don't blame you.

Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out? #37 Posted by MatloobZaman,

Thanks for the c/p of the year by year account of the Karachi violence. I browsed through it but can't see any figures adding up to 20,000. Where did that come from?

The only reference to a total I see is at the end from the anti-MQM side saying "Around 200 relatives of policemen killed in violence in Karachi marched through the city demanding the public execution of terrorists involved in the killings. Carrying placards and portraits of those killed, they chanted slogans against "terrorists" belonging to the MQM party. They also called for compensation for those killed in Karachi, where the violence has claimed more than 3,500 lives during the last three years. (Agence France Presse 2/13/99)."

So 3,500 in three years assumes on both sides i.e. including Police/Rangers/Haqiqi. Can you reconcile the 20,000 which the Altaf group claims were killed on their side alone?

Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out? But anyway, I would like to ask the author (or someone else if the author isn't posting), what is this 20,000 sacrifice figure? Where did this come from? Are there any mass graves of which I am not aware? Or are there missing persons?

Much obliged, thanks.

Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out? #30 Posted by rf786 Re: # 28

70% club??

The club which believes fervently that Karachi provides 70% of everything to the rest of Pakistan. I.e. 70% of GDP, Revenue, Employment etc etc .... Forgot our debates? You're a member too !!! And the chairman of the 70% club is the iLogger Tazeen!

This 70% of everything is the fiction created by MQM to embed the victimisation sob-story in the Urdu Speaking Karachiite mind - and they actually swallow it lock stock & barrel.

While in fact, I had proven beyond doubt with data and charts that all that Karachi provides a full 70% of is TLWs.

Now don't ask me what's a TLW!

Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India #116 Posted by masadi

... I know where these perverts are coming from, you seemed to agree with him...

Guess you missed the "hehe" in post #106 ... hehe!

Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out? MatloobZaman,

Are you a member of the 70% club?

Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India #113 Posted by masadi,

"It is quite disgusting how Zeemax thinks you have a point, he needs a reorientation himself."

Wow!

"Finally, the "survival" of Islam is never an issue to Muslims. The Quran tells him that the system of nature is Islam, it is established in the universe well beyond the power of any human to alter, he is only told to tune himself with that natural system for maximum moral and intellectual development- that is all."

So what else, Sir, am I saying?

With due respect:

"Zahid-e-tang naz'r ney mujhe kafir jaana;
Aur kafir smajh raha hai key Muslamaan hun main!"

Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India "...basically muslims are not hijacking Islam, the idea of Islam and its survival hijacks muslims."(#105 Posted by pinku)

Now that's a bombshell!

Hehe eklavya, I'm amazed some people have finally begun to get near the point I've been making all these years - that 'Islam' is infinitely more powerful than 'Muslims' ... if I understand this statement correctly.

What do you say?

Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance tahmed32,

Since I know you're interested, don't miss the interview of Justice Khalil Ramday in my iLog.

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations #82/#83 Posted by pavocavalry,

So Pavo, how do you interpret these?