Musharraf and Me Watch here:

http://www.chowk.com/unplugged/t/56760

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #174,

Roachmail, roachmail. hindoo_monkey@roachmail.com.

I don't respond to roachmails, as you may have found.

But I know piss drinkers like roaches have no ghairat in the least.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #180 Posted by tahmed32,

Okay now this is going into the entire conspiracy theory. But whose conspiracy? No one knows. I don't claim to know.

What height the planes were flying? Forget it.

I only know one thing. Whoever did 9/11 was so brilliant that he/she will manufacture and take over a World Government, by hook or by crook. That guy was a Genius.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #172 Posted by tahmed32,

Alright. so it's established you have video proof, reinforced with circumstantial evidence. Nothing else.

That's OK. You have plenty of company.

I would have actually preferred some proof on how Usama Bin Ladin managed to evade NORAD over Manhattan twice in less than 20 minutes with two hijacked wide-body airliners, and again over Pentagon with a third one an hour later when all was red alert and the two towers were already dust. But, never mind.

Re "the fact is that in pitched battles the taliban are no match for the pakistani forces - lacking air cover, lacking big guns, armored vehicles, training, and now - with the democratic government in charge - the legitimacy of being a national army. Pakistani soldiers dont need to hide behind civilians - it is the taliban and al qaeda who hide in caves, popping their heads in public briefly like Saddam used to do to pretend they are in power and then quickly hide when the military comes after them."

That's wordy and emotional.

Regular armies need cover when faced with rebels coming out from 'caves' in the dark. It is Standard Operating Procedure to take over the Government structures from which to operate. More than a hundred of them in Swat alone - convenient. That's Military SOP and I don't oppose it. But then, the enemy will blow up those structures wherever they find them.

It's got nothing to do with Girls' education. These people have been educating their daughters in the same schools since these were established. Now they have to blow them up.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India Re Roachmails about Fallujah:

The Fallujah rebellion started the insurgency which has still not ended, resulting in preventing control of Iraq by the Americans despite trying for six years. Entire Fallujah was destroyed in the process, and thousands killed - yes.

Americans should never have used that girls school if they had any sense to succeed in Iraq.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #158 Posted by tahmed32,

burning girls schools ... because there were pakistani soldiers hiding in them ... you chose to disbelieve even the terrorists themselves!!

Even though this is an obvious attempt at obfuscation to avoid the 9/11 proof question, but nevertheless ...

I am not believing 'the terrorists'. I'm believing the PPP Member National Assembly from Matta (Swat), Alauddin who appeared several times on nationwide TV saying Pakistan Army was using schools as bunkers.

This is nothing new. Army obviously uses any available government structure to use instead of sitting under tents in the open as sitting ducks. Remember how the Falluja rebellion started? Americans had taken over a girls school.

Watch 03:10 onwards:

http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/31/capital-talk-31-july-2008/

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #157 Posted by tahmed32,

one blurred video? i think there is not one but several videos

There may be a hundred videos. You Sir, being a great and honorable supporter of law and order, would surely not be unaware videos etc are inadmissible as proof in any ordinary court of law, let alone as basis for invading other countries.

Now, my question again. Do you have proof? Just give me one, or admit you have none.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #95 Posted by tahmed32, #90

I missed this:

When thug musharraf proudly claims he violated the constitution on nov 3, i believe him. When thug ben laden proudly claims he was behind 9/11, i believe him ...

When thug musharraf proudly claimed he violated the constitution on nov 3, you believed him without reading the Constitution. I didn't need to hear musharraf for evidence that he violated the Constitution. Neither did most Pakistanis.

And you say you believe "thug ben laden" proudly claiming he was behind 9/11, and you believe him blindly on the basis of a blurred 'Fat Bin Ladin Video' ... no other evidence.

If you do, please present it. And that's a challenge not only to you but the entire Chowk.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #110 Posted by VRV,

I can only laugh at this.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #106 Posted by Eklavya,

I think there's a huge misunderstanding over this thing about Kashmir becoming part of Pakistan. Pakistan has always stood for the right of self-determination, and that is it's stand still. Kashmiris can decide to remain with India, go independant, or merge with Pakistan.

Some people have equated Kashmir with Baluchistan. I believe if Baluchistan really wanted to go their own way anywhere near the way Kashmir does, Pakistan would not suppress it. But it isn't like that in Baluchistan. It's the worst feudal society with a small separatist group controlled by a few Sardars with gas reserves. Kashmir isn't. There's no comparison.

There's also been talk of buying property by Indians in Kashmir and vice versa. Pakistanis can't buy property in the Northern Areas because these are disputed territories (I wanted to in Hunza), but the Northern Area people CAN buy property anywhere in Pakistan. That's the difference.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India Yaar guru,

Why do you think anyone will c/p your roachmail and watch those URL's you keep c/p'ing and want them to watch?

That's quite typical of roaches when they're flipped on their backs and they flap their legs around but can't get straightened up to walk away - and they die flapping their legs.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #97 Posted by Eklavya,

Thanks. This writer is an extremely rational thinker. I guess Daily Times only publishes her to balance it's neo-con policy.

But have you thought about ijaz_gul's remark?

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #93 Posted by VRV,

I saw a surprising remark by nb that Kashmiris can leave without their land. This line of thought is repulsive, if not downright disgustingly naive.

I see you belong to the same category.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #88 Posted by ijaz_gul,

I haven't heard that song, but I get what you mean.

Hmmm ...

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #87 Posted by tahmed32,

... the proof that 9/11 was done by al qaeda is there - i have seen even al qaeda reps have publicly and proudly claimed credit on TV for this.

So you believe 'terrorists' beyond a shadow of doubt? They must be the most reliable and credible then - certainly more than anyone in history I've known.

Fine. Now let's not distract DM's good thread :)

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India #83 Posted by ijaz_gul

Its just that the issues of terrorism have eclipsed freedom movements where interests of USA are not served. Pakistan's hibernation on the issue is to make sure that Kashmir never links up with terrorism and therefore the pause.

This is an intriguing comment. No one has mentioned anything like this before.

Do continue ...