Mr Mantolives..
Just as evasive about facing reality like typical zionitst/fascist/american-rightwing-nutcases. Almost all TNTists seem to pick up same logic lessons from zionists.

The Death of Edward Said -- A tribute Death of Edward Said is very tragic. One should read his books to know the evil inherent in colonialism. His words make you realize that how common Israel and Pakistan are in their existence/philosophy/behaviour. Pakistan/Israel are both creation of evil condescending traits of colonialism.

Dear Mantolives,
Instead of name calling why cant u just answer my questions directly.

Vajpayee’s Srinagar offer of Talks to Pakistan Namecalling is typical trait of TNTists when truth becomes uncomfortable. Enjoy your ``freedom`` under your military rule.

Vajpayee’s Srinagar offer of Talks to Pakistan I asked this on other forums and I am still waiting for answer to my following questions:

1. Why are TNTist Pakistanis ready to die for ``freeing`` Kashmiris from Indian ``rule``, than fighting for their own self-determination and freedom.

2. Why are TNTists subsumed in so much hatred that they want tragedy to befall on object of their hatred even if it means their own destruction.

3. Why are TNTist Pakistanis ready to make themselves enslaved by their military, US imperialism and start spewing hatred/calling names like fascists against people who remind them of their chains.

Mantolive and other TNTists..
I am still waiting for answer to my following questions:

1. Why are TNTist Pakistanis ready to die for ``freeing`` Kashmiris from Indian ``rule``, than fighting for their own self-determination and freedom.

2. Why are TNTists subsumed in so much hatred that they want tragedy to befall on object of their hatred even if it means their own destruction.

3. Why are TNTist Pakistanis ready to make themselves enslaved by their military, US imperialism and start spewing hatred/calling names like fascists against people who remind them of their chains.

Couple of points for Mantolives, Saminasha etc:

1. As for sovereignity, tell me how much sovereignity Pakistani PEOPLE have enjoyed in last 50 years. Same goes for Bangladeshi people, Nepali people, Bhutani people etc. It seems you folks would rather prefer to remain enslaved by your military than be part of democratic federal setup with rest of Indian people (now please dont start saying that u are not of Indian ethinicity etc..)

2. In India, J&K is as much occupied by India as Haryana is occupied by India. Being part of India, Pakistan will get chance to ``occupy`` rest of India as much as India would get chance to ``occupy`` Pakistan.

3. Please dont confuse ``peacenik``/``humanist`` jokers with leftists. True leftists have never tolerated fascists ideas like 2-nation theory and imperialist-appeasers.

4. Mantolives, when are you going to ``die fighting`` for Pakistani PEOPLE in order to free them from enslavement of military (or are you urself part of that fascist setup enslaving Pakistani people?). May be your hatred of India exceeds your concern for interests of your fellow Pakistanis.

5. For people who are hurt with my equating of 2-nation theory with fascism/racism, they should just see the two-nation theory at work in another place:Palestine. There also people are realizing best solution to be one nation solution (checkout Zogby/Chomsky etc) .

Friends,
Thanks for your comments/indifference/``gaalis``.

This was just an attempt to present my point of view without resorting to lofty words or jargons or rhetoric which typically accompany discussions of Kashmir issue. I think that if we discuss issues in tangible goals/terms we have better chances of resolving the issues.

Ballukhan:
I am not lampooning American Left but just am sometimes annoyed to find its ignorance and condescending attitude about issues of rest of the world. They are still happily carrying their honeymoon with China which is poles apart from the leftist ideals.

Samina:
Yes lot of water has flown down Indus. But that doesnt mean we should not learn any lesson from that. Just imagine all those defense expenditures since 1947. What wonders could it have done. Spain and Britain are still resolving Gibraltar issue while being part of EU.

Women in Religious Scriptures ``Tantrik`` yajnas can only be performed by women.

A Work In Progress JINNAH was a war criminal.. Direct action day itself led to death of more than 20000 people.. Equal number died in the attacks by Kabailis in Kashmir...

People worshipping Jinnah do seem wanna make their kids follow his lessons and message: Rape and kill as many non-muslims as possible..

Thats Jinnah in nutshell..

Cant believe the women worshipping Jinnah, support the message of violence by Jinnah..

Changing The Thana Culture Reply to
#13 by Tipu on November 27, 2002 4:18pm PT

Mr Tipu, no one prides in riots happening anywhere in India.. But most of Pakistani pride on their achievements on Direct Action Day.. So do they pride on brave achievements on their soldiers in 1971..
Now you might argue that raping of infidel women or killing infidels is bravery.. Wasnt that Direct Action Day about..

Changing The Thana Culture Well I think the thana mentality u cite is more similar to one which led to butchering of thousands of people on direct action day in 1946 and rape of as many women. The same thana mentality is responsible for rape of millions and genocide of 1971.
Its a shame that women and men of the community where this thana mentality is espoused pride in these ``glorious`` achievements..

SHAME!!!..