Diabetes: Wrestling with a Twenty-First Century Monster
1. Is Diabetes a recent phenomenon, I mean is there an evidence that people in the past several hundered years ago used to suffer from this disease. Any DNA evidence available?
2. If left undiagnosed what is the moratality rate in children with Type 1.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jul 5, 2008 08:49 am
Thank you Mutaal, that was quite informative. I have a few questions:1. Is Diabetes a recent phenomenon, I mean is there an evidence that people in the past several hundered years ago used to suffer from this disease. Any DNA evidence available?
2. If left undiagnosed what is the moratality rate in children with Type 1.
Solving Amarnath: A New Hope in Kashmir
Posted by
Urstruly
Jul 3, 2008 11:04 am
Such illegal "award" of land is also against Geneva Convention. Occupied territory cannot be "awarded" as such as it is someones abba ki jagir. I think Hindus have made a wise decision here.
Anti-Americanism in Pakistan and the Taliban Menace
Did it ever occur to you that there could be a thing called "Afghan Nationalism". The fact of the matter is that for the past 30 years their country has been ravaged by foreign superpowers one after the other. Several million Afghanis have been killed ever since due to foreign occupation and millions have been displaced for decades now. Putting everything in jihads account is wrong. But this is done with a purpose. The propaganda line is that that since Afghan freedom fighters are conducting a Jihad (a religious war) therefore it is wrong. But the fact of the matter is that no matter what you call it this war is nothing more than a nationist struggle against foreign occupation. And so is OBLs.
Every self respecting nation would have done the same. Sacrifices have been made and Afghans will fight until the last crusader is kicked out of their country whether they get help from Pakistani side or not.
On the other hand, while neo-colonial imperialists were pouring billions of dollars every week, a way lot cheaper measures could have been taken to seal the Pak-Afghan border. Americans do not want it because they have a bigger agenda and they want insurgency to continue, because it justifies their presence in the area; but corrupt military elite in Pakistan could have made its contribution to the so called WOT conditional, subject to the erection of such wall. Had they done that, no one would have been whining now.
Just as US-West-paki fouj nexus created talibans and mujahideens; the same assholes are responsible for creating Pakistani Talibans. Just as Afghan mujahideen took a life of their own, Pakistani Taliban will (or have)too. Once you empower someone you cannot request him to kindly relinquish his powers - it is as simple as that.
For our survival we must:
1. Hang Musharaf in the courtyard of lal masjid
2. Re-instate an independent judiciary.
3. Hold elections under this new judiciary to elect legitimately representative national government.
4. Americans must be dealt with. They must be contained with in Afghanistan. The insurgency there must be supported to keep them busy over there.
5. Wall must be built to seal off Pak-Afghan border.
It cannot be done, unless napak military is contained by Pakistani citizens first. It is no use to put dharna in front of a neutered parliament, but it is imperative that foujis all around the country must be hounded and boycotted. It is incumbent upon every Muslim Pakistani to socially boycott every fouji family in the country. Shopkeepers must stop selling to them. People must stop having social interaction with them. They must be told the kind of pigs they are. Dahrana must be placed in front of Army house and every cantonment. Dharna must be placed in front of every foujis house, even at the rank of a sipahi. If they have chosen to act and behave as foreign agents, then we must treat them as such too. We must tell them to get the fukk out of our country and go fukk themelves in canada or something, assholes.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jul 2, 2008 04:30 pm
Re: # 53 HPDid it ever occur to you that there could be a thing called "Afghan Nationalism". The fact of the matter is that for the past 30 years their country has been ravaged by foreign superpowers one after the other. Several million Afghanis have been killed ever since due to foreign occupation and millions have been displaced for decades now. Putting everything in jihads account is wrong. But this is done with a purpose. The propaganda line is that that since Afghan freedom fighters are conducting a Jihad (a religious war) therefore it is wrong. But the fact of the matter is that no matter what you call it this war is nothing more than a nationist struggle against foreign occupation. And so is OBLs.
Every self respecting nation would have done the same. Sacrifices have been made and Afghans will fight until the last crusader is kicked out of their country whether they get help from Pakistani side or not.
On the other hand, while neo-colonial imperialists were pouring billions of dollars every week, a way lot cheaper measures could have been taken to seal the Pak-Afghan border. Americans do not want it because they have a bigger agenda and they want insurgency to continue, because it justifies their presence in the area; but corrupt military elite in Pakistan could have made its contribution to the so called WOT conditional, subject to the erection of such wall. Had they done that, no one would have been whining now.
Just as US-West-paki fouj nexus created talibans and mujahideens; the same assholes are responsible for creating Pakistani Talibans. Just as Afghan mujahideen took a life of their own, Pakistani Taliban will (or have)too. Once you empower someone you cannot request him to kindly relinquish his powers - it is as simple as that.
For our survival we must:
1. Hang Musharaf in the courtyard of lal masjid
2. Re-instate an independent judiciary.
3. Hold elections under this new judiciary to elect legitimately representative national government.
4. Americans must be dealt with. They must be contained with in Afghanistan. The insurgency there must be supported to keep them busy over there.
5. Wall must be built to seal off Pak-Afghan border.
It cannot be done, unless napak military is contained by Pakistani citizens first. It is no use to put dharna in front of a neutered parliament, but it is imperative that foujis all around the country must be hounded and boycotted. It is incumbent upon every Muslim Pakistani to socially boycott every fouji family in the country. Shopkeepers must stop selling to them. People must stop having social interaction with them. They must be told the kind of pigs they are. Dahrana must be placed in front of Army house and every cantonment. Dharna must be placed in front of every foujis house, even at the rank of a sipahi. If they have chosen to act and behave as foreign agents, then we must treat them as such too. We must tell them to get the fukk out of our country and go fukk themelves in canada or something, assholes.
Anti-Americanism in Pakistan and the Taliban Menace
You and hoodbhoy are two sides of the same coin. Both of you you in your own ways justify violence and state terrorism on the citizens of Pakistan. Both of you portray sons of this soil as some kind of Martians who have just landed from another planet and are hell bound to destroy our planet. With all political and judicial avenues closed, a dictator and a foreign agent sitting at top, a military that has turned itself into a mafia and a corrupt ruling elite, whose only purpose in life is to plunder pakistan, an illegitimate and unrepresentative civilian government, what do you expect people to do?
If dictator, a corrupt and out of control military, and extremely dangerous intelligence agencies are playing this bloody game so that dollars keep flowing, then why talibans. If first three characters are so corrupt and manipulative then they will keep making talibans fight, no matter what. In other words the real culprits in all this bloody games is whom you and Hoodbhoy are trying to support. A pro-western corrupt military regime. and you keep finding ways to justify violenec against pakistani citizens.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jul 2, 2008 02:39 pm
Re: # 49 HPYou and hoodbhoy are two sides of the same coin. Both of you you in your own ways justify violence and state terrorism on the citizens of Pakistan. Both of you portray sons of this soil as some kind of Martians who have just landed from another planet and are hell bound to destroy our planet. With all political and judicial avenues closed, a dictator and a foreign agent sitting at top, a military that has turned itself into a mafia and a corrupt ruling elite, whose only purpose in life is to plunder pakistan, an illegitimate and unrepresentative civilian government, what do you expect people to do?
If dictator, a corrupt and out of control military, and extremely dangerous intelligence agencies are playing this bloody game so that dollars keep flowing, then why talibans. If first three characters are so corrupt and manipulative then they will keep making talibans fight, no matter what. In other words the real culprits in all this bloody games is whom you and Hoodbhoy are trying to support. A pro-western corrupt military regime. and you keep finding ways to justify violenec against pakistani citizens.
Anti-Americanism in Pakistan and the Taliban Menace
The tragedy of Pakistan is not that the demons-let-loose-from-hell, as hoodbhoy portrays them are about to take over Pakistan, but the tragedy is how well-educated people like hoodbhoy defend this status quo of the rule of demons that are already devouring Pakistan. Hoodbhoy considers this system, which feeds on the blood of citizens of Pakistan, worth defending?? laholwila quwat. He is asking people of pakistan to stand up and defend the sorry assess of pathetic excuse for humanity like fouj, pirs, feudals, 10%s, and 100%s from getting exterminated?? If I were hoodbhoy, I would take Ras's advice below and set my priorities straight while I still have the time. This system of injustice, corruption, and inefficiency is about to fall victim to the law of natural selection. Why hoodbhoy is siding with those who are destined to be loosers?
Posted by
Urstruly
Jul 2, 2008 07:03 am
The tragedy of Pakistan is not that the demons-let-loose-from-hell, as hoodbhoy portrays them are about to take over Pakistan, but the tragedy is how well-educated people like hoodbhoy defend this status quo of the rule of demons that are already devouring Pakistan. Hoodbhoy considers this system, which feeds on the blood of citizens of Pakistan, worth defending?? laholwila quwat. He is asking people of pakistan to stand up and defend the sorry assess of pathetic excuse for humanity like fouj, pirs, feudals, 10%s, and 100%s from getting exterminated?? If I were hoodbhoy, I would take Ras's advice below and set my priorities straight while I still have the time. This system of injustice, corruption, and inefficiency is about to fall victim to the law of natural selection. Why hoodbhoy is siding with those who are destined to be loosers?
Anti-Americanism in Pakistan and the Taliban Menace
You got that one right Dr. Sahib. This war that is only starting now should have been fought 60 years ago, right after the inception of pakistan. Had society cleansed itself from what I call the "East India Company ki naajaiz aulaad" at that time we wouldn't have to swallow that bitter pill now. The corrupt, pro-western, ruling elite missed the golden chance to avoid the guillotines when it had the time to re-instate the independent judiciary, hang musharaf in the courtyard of Lal Masjid, and have had a free and fair election under an independent judiciary. The legitimate government thus elected would have saved Pakistan from the impending clamity. That chance is lost for good. The guillotines await.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jul 1, 2008 06:51 pm
"The Taliban are waging an armed struggle to remake society. They will keep fighting this war even if America were to miraculously evaporate into space. "You got that one right Dr. Sahib. This war that is only starting now should have been fought 60 years ago, right after the inception of pakistan. Had society cleansed itself from what I call the "East India Company ki naajaiz aulaad" at that time we wouldn't have to swallow that bitter pill now. The corrupt, pro-western, ruling elite missed the golden chance to avoid the guillotines when it had the time to re-instate the independent judiciary, hang musharaf in the courtyard of Lal Masjid, and have had a free and fair election under an independent judiciary. The legitimate government thus elected would have saved Pakistan from the impending clamity. That chance is lost for good. The guillotines await.
The Lame Duck Government
The biggest blunder that mushraf-kiyani-PPP, i.e. kanjar nexus has done is that it has stopped keeping NATO-US crusaders engaged in Afghnaistan. The idoits/ m/c did not realize tha what the armies of the biggest superpower of the world and of 37 other countries could not do in Afghnaistan, how can these surrender monkeys of napak army accomplish that in Pakistan? I think Musharfa kanjar wants to deteriorate the situation in FATA and other adjacent areas to such an extent, by November, that the next black president of America, whats-his-name, would have no option but to support him. In my opinion, this winter, when snow will fall in afghansitan, napak fouj will lose control of Peshawar. I think Afghan mujahideen this winter are going to be concentrated in this area.
As a matter of fact this situation favors all parties involved. It favors US because all freedom fighters will then be concentrated out of Afghnaistan and into Pakistan in a certain area. It favors India if Mujahideen keep napak fouj engaged in that territory. And hell, it favors napak fouj too, because it will justify their pathetic existence, when they will whine, how their existence is necessary to save the "pakistan proper" i.e. punjab not only from American missile attacks but also from Mujahideen taking over precious punjbai lands. The lifafah journalists of urdu press have already started paving the way for thsi scenario. As long as this pathtic fouj keeps the area south of Banu and Mardan under their control, and are able to keep the supply route open for Americans, to hell with anything north of bannu. I think bye bye peshawar. The 1971 paradigm of PPP-fouj nexus is in effect again. We are condemend to repeat history.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 30, 2008 08:42 pm
The biggest blunder that mushraf-kiyani-PPP, i.e. kanjar nexus has done is that it has stopped keeping NATO-US crusaders engaged in Afghnaistan. The idoits/ m/c did not realize tha what the armies of the biggest superpower of the world and of 37 other countries could not do in Afghnaistan, how can these surrender monkeys of napak army accomplish that in Pakistan? I think Musharfa kanjar wants to deteriorate the situation in FATA and other adjacent areas to such an extent, by November, that the next black president of America, whats-his-name, would have no option but to support him. In my opinion, this winter, when snow will fall in afghansitan, napak fouj will lose control of Peshawar. I think Afghan mujahideen this winter are going to be concentrated in this area.
As a matter of fact this situation favors all parties involved. It favors US because all freedom fighters will then be concentrated out of Afghnaistan and into Pakistan in a certain area. It favors India if Mujahideen keep napak fouj engaged in that territory. And hell, it favors napak fouj too, because it will justify their pathetic existence, when they will whine, how their existence is necessary to save the "pakistan proper" i.e. punjab not only from American missile attacks but also from Mujahideen taking over precious punjbai lands. The lifafah journalists of urdu press have already started paving the way for thsi scenario. As long as this pathtic fouj keeps the area south of Banu and Mardan under their control, and are able to keep the supply route open for Americans, to hell with anything north of bannu. I think bye bye peshawar. The 1971 paradigm of PPP-fouj nexus is in effect again. We are condemend to repeat history.
The Global Self-Help Addict
Not that I don't see the value in the self-help literature for the "consumer" but I like the old school of self help, like Dale Carnegi etc. Atleast they did not try to convince people that they were utter failures, nervous wrecks, and borderline psychotic before trying to help cure themselves. They used to deal with normal people who only needed "guidance", on how to do things differently and better. God save us all from this new nonsense.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 23, 2008 03:57 pm
The real culprit in the whole self-help literature is the aspect that first it tries to convinces reader that there is something seriously wrong with them and if they continue doing what they have been doing throuout their lives, it would result in the destruction of their whole life.Not that I don't see the value in the self-help literature for the "consumer" but I like the old school of self help, like Dale Carnegi etc. Atleast they did not try to convince people that they were utter failures, nervous wrecks, and borderline psychotic before trying to help cure themselves. They used to deal with normal people who only needed "guidance", on how to do things differently and better. God save us all from this new nonsense.
The Global Self-Help Addict
Not that I don't see the value in the self-help literature for the "consumer" but I like the old school of self help, like Dale Carnegi etc. Atleast they did not try to convince people that they were utter failures, nervous wrecks, and borderline psychotic before trying to help cure themselves. They used to deal with normal people who only needed "guidance", on how to do things differently and better. God save us all from this new nonsense.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 23, 2008 03:57 pm
The real culprit in the whole self-help literature is the aspect that first it tries to convinces reader that there is something seriously wrong with them and if they continue doing what they have been doing throuout their lives, it would result in the destruction of their whole life.Not that I don't see the value in the self-help literature for the "consumer" but I like the old school of self help, like Dale Carnegi etc. Atleast they did not try to convince people that they were utter failures, nervous wrecks, and borderline psychotic before trying to help cure themselves. They used to deal with normal people who only needed "guidance", on how to do things differently and better. God save us all from this new nonsense.
The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation
If there were multiple gods, then all gods must be the members of ISO (International Standards Organization) for all the humans they individually have created have identical genetic code. I mean, among 300 million known gods, no one is innovative enough to do something different than the other? And how do these multiple gods handle their disputes? do they have a united nation of gods? For example if god A makes sun rise in the east and god b says no I wanna raise it from south, then how do they resolve their disputes. But on the other hand if a god responsible for raising sun is only responsible to raise sun and nothing else then that particular god cannot be absolute. If god is not absolute then he is not god. That god is then just like me - I wake up every fukking morning, shave, eat two slices of bread with chai, struggle with the morning rush hour usually stuck behind a car whose bumper sticker reads "unless you are a haemeroid, you are too close for comfort", get to work, deal all day with robots like me, come home and this just keeps going on and on forever. Now how is that god different than me?
Look, people, I am not making fun of your gods, but my post is just as absurd as the ideas presented in it. Yes, you are promoting absurdity to divinity. Reject all man made constructs, which you call gods, and submit to One Creator, who is Absolute, All Powerful, All Knowing, Who was begotten by none and Who begets no one. People, life is short, from microcosm to macrocosm every thing that we can sense with our 6 senses point to this One Creator. Submit!
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 18, 2008 09:19 pm
If there were multiple gods, then all gods must be the members of ISO (International Standards Organization) for all the humans they individually have created have identical genetic code. I mean, among 300 million known gods, no one is innovative enough to do something different than the other? And how do these multiple gods handle their disputes? do they have a united nation of gods? For example if god A makes sun rise in the east and god b says no I wanna raise it from south, then how do they resolve their disputes. But on the other hand if a god responsible for raising sun is only responsible to raise sun and nothing else then that particular god cannot be absolute. If god is not absolute then he is not god. That god is then just like me - I wake up every fukking morning, shave, eat two slices of bread with chai, struggle with the morning rush hour usually stuck behind a car whose bumper sticker reads "unless you are a haemeroid, you are too close for comfort", get to work, deal all day with robots like me, come home and this just keeps going on and on forever. Now how is that god different than me?
Look, people, I am not making fun of your gods, but my post is just as absurd as the ideas presented in it. Yes, you are promoting absurdity to divinity. Reject all man made constructs, which you call gods, and submit to One Creator, who is Absolute, All Powerful, All Knowing, Who was begotten by none and Who begets no one. People, life is short, from microcosm to macrocosm every thing that we can sense with our 6 senses point to this One Creator. Submit!
Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
Mr. Pinku
Why make things complicated by twisting words when the simplest of the explanation should be and must be the correct one. In this matter the simplest explanation must be the correct one because God's message is not just for the philosophers and Giyanis it is for the lowest common denominator of the humanity as well. here is Islam's position on distance between God and man:
Al-Qura'n 50:16
And certainly We created man, and We know what his mind suggests to him, and We are nearer to him than his jugular vein.
The straight path argument in my previous posts referred to those who try to approach God using their own God given mental faculties. They would start with questioning or (simply ignoring)their own inner voice (as referred earlier) and then their journey continues. Again the point that I was trying to make was that man has to listen to his inner voice to find the path to God. The call of inner voice is correct.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 15, 2008 08:13 pm
Re: # 651Mr. Pinku
Why make things complicated by twisting words when the simplest of the explanation should be and must be the correct one. In this matter the simplest explanation must be the correct one because God's message is not just for the philosophers and Giyanis it is for the lowest common denominator of the humanity as well. here is Islam's position on distance between God and man:
Al-Qura'n 50:16
And certainly We created man, and We know what his mind suggests to him, and We are nearer to him than his jugular vein.
The straight path argument in my previous posts referred to those who try to approach God using their own God given mental faculties. They would start with questioning or (simply ignoring)their own inner voice (as referred earlier) and then their journey continues. Again the point that I was trying to make was that man has to listen to his inner voice to find the path to God. The call of inner voice is correct.
Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
Its a crying shame that even Christians have replaced the proper noun Paraclete with the phrase "harbinger of good news" in the newer versions of Bible. Whereas older and Latin versions still have this name mentioned as such. In the word of Quran: Thus the man is at loss. Man's prejudices cannot even let him hear his own truths
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 13, 2008 08:40 pm
Re: # 595Its a crying shame that even Christians have replaced the proper noun Paraclete with the phrase "harbinger of good news" in the newer versions of Bible. Whereas older and Latin versions still have this name mentioned as such. In the word of Quran: Thus the man is at loss. Man's prejudices cannot even let him hear his own truths
Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muhammad_Bible.HTM
This is a very comprehensive and irrefutable refrence to the issue of foretelling the coming of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) in earlier scriptures. In Bible, John 16:13, Jesus (pbuh) even mentions him by name "Paraclete" (English), or Parakalytos (Latin) or Farqualete (hebrew or Aramaic). The word paraclete (pbuh) is the proper noun that exactly translates into Arabic equivalent "Ahmad" meaning the harbinger of good news.
The foretelling of the coming of the Last Prophet (pbuh) is the central thesis around which the argument to Cristian and Jews is based. The Jewish religious text (equivalent to ahadith of Jewish prophets) describe the physical apperance of Holy Prophet (pbuh) to such and extent that they even mentioned the presence of a black mole between his shoulders. And when Jews of Medina saw him in person, they were taken aback. This incident is well recorded thru a naration by Safiah (RA), who was one of the first Jewish converts in Medina, who also took part in battle and personally guraded Holy prophet (pbuh) with her sword. She mentions that she overheard a conversation between her father and his cousin who were high priests of Medina. The coverstaion took place like this:
Cousin: Are you sure that he is the one (referring to their scriptures)
Uncle: By God, that he is him.
Cousin: Now what are we going to do, should we accept his message.
Uncle: By God! never, as long as I live I will oppose him.
Then they proceeded to erase all those descriptions in their books where it mentioned the physical apperance of Holy prophet (pbuh). Qura'n itself refers to this incidence (probably in second chapter, I forgot). Even the nutcases like Danial Pipes admit to the truth of this incidence, and go breserk whenever mentioned, just lilke the stubborn uncle mentioned above.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 13, 2008 08:36 pm
Re: # 594 mr. abuabdullahhttp://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muhammad_Bible.HTM
This is a very comprehensive and irrefutable refrence to the issue of foretelling the coming of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) in earlier scriptures. In Bible, John 16:13, Jesus (pbuh) even mentions him by name "Paraclete" (English), or Parakalytos (Latin) or Farqualete (hebrew or Aramaic). The word paraclete (pbuh) is the proper noun that exactly translates into Arabic equivalent "Ahmad" meaning the harbinger of good news.
The foretelling of the coming of the Last Prophet (pbuh) is the central thesis around which the argument to Cristian and Jews is based. The Jewish religious text (equivalent to ahadith of Jewish prophets) describe the physical apperance of Holy Prophet (pbuh) to such and extent that they even mentioned the presence of a black mole between his shoulders. And when Jews of Medina saw him in person, they were taken aback. This incident is well recorded thru a naration by Safiah (RA), who was one of the first Jewish converts in Medina, who also took part in battle and personally guraded Holy prophet (pbuh) with her sword. She mentions that she overheard a conversation between her father and his cousin who were high priests of Medina. The coverstaion took place like this:
Cousin: Are you sure that he is the one (referring to their scriptures)
Uncle: By God, that he is him.
Cousin: Now what are we going to do, should we accept his message.
Uncle: By God! never, as long as I live I will oppose him.
Then they proceeded to erase all those descriptions in their books where it mentioned the physical apperance of Holy prophet (pbuh). Qura'n itself refers to this incidence (probably in second chapter, I forgot). Even the nutcases like Danial Pipes admit to the truth of this incidence, and go breserk whenever mentioned, just lilke the stubborn uncle mentioned above.
Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
I did not answer your question because you had answered it yourself; but unfortunately you did not have the confidence or foresight to listen to your own voice. Here is what you said:
"indic/hindu system gives you shortest path to God, by making you part of God (what else can be smaller?). It doesn't separate creator and creation by zillion miles as in so called monotheism, which seems shortest to you:-)"
Now tell me, shouldn't you have written the first sentence as "indic/hindu system gives you shortest path to every God, by making you part of every God (what else can be smaller?).
Do you see how illogical it sounds. Mr. Pinku I don't think it was a Freudian slip; it was your genes talking. Truth is right inside of you. Have confidence to listen to your inner self.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 12, 2008 06:58 pm
Re: # 524 Pinku sahibI did not answer your question because you had answered it yourself; but unfortunately you did not have the confidence or foresight to listen to your own voice. Here is what you said:
"indic/hindu system gives you shortest path to God, by making you part of God (what else can be smaller?). It doesn't separate creator and creation by zillion miles as in so called monotheism, which seems shortest to you:-)"
Now tell me, shouldn't you have written the first sentence as "indic/hindu system gives you shortest path to every God, by making you part of every God (what else can be smaller?).
Do you see how illogical it sounds. Mr. Pinku I don't think it was a Freudian slip; it was your genes talking. Truth is right inside of you. Have confidence to listen to your inner self.
Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
Its simple: Those who project him as an embodiment of negativity are the ones who envision their vested interests threatened by the revolution that he started 1500 years ago. This revolution is now at loggerhead with a global confederation of anti-Islam forces- unprecedented event in the history of mankind. In this final conflict, propaganda is a very effective tool, as islam's detractors think. But they think so because they are unaware of the history of Islam. The one and the only person in the whole mankind whose personality has been scruitinized with such intensity by freinds and foes alike is none other but Holy prophet (pbuh). He is not a mythical and legendary character; his existence is not matter of belief like that of Jesus (pbuh) or Moses (pbuh) and that of Ram. He was real, just like you and me. There is no other man in the history of mankind whose life has been documented in 600,000 ahadith, to the minutest and most private details; as if 1500 years ago he was followed by a camcorder on every step of his way.
For this very reason every attempt to malign him, as a matter of fact, works in favor of him and his revolution. Yes proaganda and insults are obnoxious, hurtful, and wrong; but while it delights some it invokes genuin interest in many who chose to remain quiet observers. They try to educate themselves about the "real" Mohammad (pbuh), proaganda against whom sounds just like that - propaganda. People are not idiots.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 12, 2008 11:01 am
Re: # 467 MoharIts simple: Those who project him as an embodiment of negativity are the ones who envision their vested interests threatened by the revolution that he started 1500 years ago. This revolution is now at loggerhead with a global confederation of anti-Islam forces- unprecedented event in the history of mankind. In this final conflict, propaganda is a very effective tool, as islam's detractors think. But they think so because they are unaware of the history of Islam. The one and the only person in the whole mankind whose personality has been scruitinized with such intensity by freinds and foes alike is none other but Holy prophet (pbuh). He is not a mythical and legendary character; his existence is not matter of belief like that of Jesus (pbuh) or Moses (pbuh) and that of Ram. He was real, just like you and me. There is no other man in the history of mankind whose life has been documented in 600,000 ahadith, to the minutest and most private details; as if 1500 years ago he was followed by a camcorder on every step of his way.
For this very reason every attempt to malign him, as a matter of fact, works in favor of him and his revolution. Yes proaganda and insults are obnoxious, hurtful, and wrong; but while it delights some it invokes genuin interest in many who chose to remain quiet observers. They try to educate themselves about the "real" Mohammad (pbuh), proaganda against whom sounds just like that - propaganda. People are not idiots.
Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
Your line of thinking is correct. The evidence to support your point is the nature of dialogue that takes place between Muslims and Islam's detractors. Further evidence is on this website and spread all over the internet. No matter how hard Muslim like to keep the dialogue objective, the detractors always end up committing ad hominum attacks on the person of Holy prophet (pbuh). The reason is that that it is impossible to counter-argue a point that emrges from the deen-e-fitrat (laws of nature - i.e. human nature and nature of the cosmos). But Holy Prophet (pbuh) was but a man whom God chose as a guide to the people. God could have very well spoken to us directly or he could have sent an angel, but the reason he chose a man in flesh and blood, just like us, was to prove to us that man has an inherent ability to act on God's commands and fulfil his covenant.
Unfortunately, there are hundereds of thousands of websites dedicated, I repaet the word dedicated, just to malign his character falsely. But you will never see a site dedicated to malign jesus (pbuh), buddah, or Ram etc. Don't you think Muslims have the ability to respond in kind - in the same language? No. Not because our Holy prophet (pbuh) forbade us but because we don't have to. There is no need. Deen-e-fitrat is just so much an irrefutable argument.
Posted by
Urstruly
Jun 12, 2008 10:20 am
Re: # 458 DostYour line of thinking is correct. The evidence to support your point is the nature of dialogue that takes place between Muslims and Islam's detractors. Further evidence is on this website and spread all over the internet. No matter how hard Muslim like to keep the dialogue objective, the detractors always end up committing ad hominum attacks on the person of Holy prophet (pbuh). The reason is that that it is impossible to counter-argue a point that emrges from the deen-e-fitrat (laws of nature - i.e. human nature and nature of the cosmos). But Holy Prophet (pbuh) was but a man whom God chose as a guide to the people. God could have very well spoken to us directly or he could have sent an angel, but the reason he chose a man in flesh and blood, just like us, was to prove to us that man has an inherent ability to act on God's commands and fulfil his covenant.
Unfortunately, there are hundereds of thousands of websites dedicated, I repaet the word dedicated, just to malign his character falsely. But you will never see a site dedicated to malign jesus (pbuh), buddah, or Ram etc. Don't you think Muslims have the ability to respond in kind - in the same language? No. Not because our Holy prophet (pbuh) forbade us but because we don't have to. There is no need. Deen-e-fitrat is just so much an irrefutable argument.
- Urstruly
- Interacts: 7669
- iLogs: 2
- Gallery: 34
- Page views: 24945
- Last visitor: guest
- Member since: May 4 2000
- Last signin: Sep 7 2008
- Send a message
- Add as friend
- Add to ignore list
- Add to block list


