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Aamir - A Film Review
Posted by friend Jul 8, 2008 02:52 pm
DM
Overall it is a highly improbable story. Someone keeps track of a person coming from a foreign country, somehow knows which custom officer he is going to meet, also ensures that his luggage will get lost, and this person doesn't have money or some friend that he can reach in such emergency. A totally unbelievable story. There are are dozens of way to put bomb ina bus rather than going through this clockwork operation where everything can go wrong.
So I would say 1 out of 10.
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Posted by friend Jun 1, 2008 09:45 am
dost_mittar #252
I respectfully disagree that Murad has studied any history. He has read 'books' that too selectively. He is never able to quote specific references, and when shown specific references, opts to shy away.

Multiple holes were pointed out in his earlier "India unvarnished series" and all he responded with was - "It is there in 50 books in my library".

As you pointed out, there is absolutely no reference to Buddhist or Jain persecution in collective memory or literature. Buddhism has survived for more than 2000 years in Tibet. Tales of persecuted Buddhists would have definitely made it to Tibetan literature, and there is none.

Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Posted by friend May 31, 2008 11:28 pm
Murad
Are you avoiding my counter argument to your statement that Indians didn't know about Chandragupta Maurya before Princep?
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Posted by friend May 31, 2008 06:43 pm
Murad Baig
Another piece of information for you. Visit Thailand. It is a Buddhist country, and guess what? King's coronation is done by a Hindu chief priest. Go to Asakusa temple in Tokyo and look at two statues at gate. One of them is "white monkey" - who in fact is a Buddhist version of Hanuman.
Visit monasteries in Tibet. Tankas are full on images of Bhairav and Shiva.
What one sees depends on what one wants to see. You want to unvarnish India, so you find varnish everywhere.
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Posted by friend May 31, 2008 03:47 pm
#115 Murad Baig

"9. There are no final words in history that often produces surprises. No Indian source knew about the great Mauryan empire till James Princep got Pali scripts interpreted in 1937. Similarly there was no knowledge of the great Harappan civilization till Mortimer Wheeler announced `his’ great find in 1923."

In continuation to #211, Vishakhadatta, in 4th century AD, wrote "MudraRakshas", which is a story of Chandragupta Maurya.

I seriously think that you need to go back to school to learn your history.
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Posted by friend May 31, 2008 03:16 pm
#155 Murad Ali Baig

"9. There are no final words in history that often produces surprises. No Indian source knew about the great Mauryan empire till James Princep got Pali scripts interpreted in 1937. Similarly there was no knowledge of the great Harappan civilization till Mortimer Wheeler announced `his’ great find in 1923."

You need to recheck your sources. James Princep existed as an employee of East India Company between 1832 and 1838. He worked on Brahmi script. His achievement was to establish that Sandrakottus of Greek Text and Chandragupta of Indian texts were one and same and thereby put a firm timeline for Chandragupta.
Akbar and Alexander
Posted by friend Apr 24, 2008 08:22 am
Muradbaig

"For references and bibliography read my book"
Earlier I asked you for references (page number/article) when you wrote similar unsubstantiated research in your "India unvarnished" article. I have no intention of spending money on your book. Would you be kind enough to provide good references?

PS: Meahwhile also do a time-line study of Adi Shankra, and Angkorwat temples and explain how Buddhists were able to take over hindu temples 3 centuries after Shankara.

The Vicious Circle of Violence
Posted by friend Mar 26, 2008 02:47 pm
AN #143
"There is absolutely no contradiction between the peaceful and tolerant nature of Islam and the relative absence of other religious traditions in Afghanistan and in the North-West of the Indian subcontinent."
Wah! Wah!! Peaceful treatment of Ahmdadi's and Bahai faiths and tolerance in Saudi Arabia towards bringing of Hanuman Idols are very strong arguments in favor of your QED
You also failed to mention that only way for someone in peaceful Islamic counteries to renounce Islam as faith is through grave. Very strong proof of tolerance indeed.
The Vicious Circle of Violence
Posted by friend Mar 24, 2008 05:07 pm
Salim Chauhan sahib #various

Sir you don't have to direct our attention to violence against muslims. This article's basic premise is that while Christians didn't honor their treaties, and killed muslims, muslims were in general verrrry peaceful and considerate of their minorities. Given this peaceful nature of muslims, what happened to idol worshippers who used to reside in Mecca, why fire-worshippers Parsi had to run to India, and why Bahai are persecuted in Iran? What is happening to Afgani minorities? and why Saudi Arabia still can not tolerate any idols?
The Vicious Circle of Violence
Posted by friend Mar 23, 2008 02:29 pm
Baig, is following a good Summary:
"Christians broke treaties whenever it suited them. Muslims honored their treaties. Christians killed their minorities. Muslims allowed people of other faith to live their life or leave with their property. Even if Muslims had to kill people of other faith, they made sure they killed equal number of Muslims.

One question - Why are there no minorities worth counting in Middle east? Kindly don't count Shia and Sunnis as minorities in those counteries.
Condemned Gods of Darrah Pir
Posted by friend Jun 16, 2007 04:23 pm
Was there a concept of ``middle east`` 2500 years ago? King is talking about trade route to ``middle east``!!

Son, this was the place where our forefathers laid their camps before founding the capital, and here when the first stones of the city were laid who could imagine that it would be the capital of the great empire that will hold strong foot on trade routes to middle east and beyond and the access to the fertile basin of “Great River”, from here our ancestors extended their control over the mountainous tribesmen and even to vassals in southern lowlands.
India’s Foreign Policy: An Analysis
Posted by friend Jan 22, 2007 05:41 pm
Ijaz,
Wonderful photographs. I also did some climbing and hiking in Ladakh, Kashmir, UP and Nepal Himalayas. I will try to find and share some of my photographs of Yamuna basin.
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by friend Jan 11, 2007 02:22 pm
Dear Mr Gul
You made a big fuss about Akbar, and got many answers. What exactly did you want Nehru to write about Akbar? And please enlighten us on what Jinnah wrote on Akbar etc.
Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute
Posted by friend Jan 10, 2007 05:31 pm
I am curious what Jinnah wrote about Akbar or Aurangzeb. Perhaps Izaz Gul can tell us more about this!!
Indian Scholarships for Outstanding Pakistani Students
Posted by friend Nov 16, 2006 05:40 pm
In my opinion there is no harm in opening Indian universities to Pakistani students. However, they should pay full fee, not one subsidized by Indian tax payers. In other words, they should be permitted to join only private universities and college.
Increase in terrorism should not really be a concern. Our police is already so corrupt that ISI can always pay them to push any terrorist in India.
Any financial aid or scholarships etc must be reserved for truly needy students from within India.
Gone is Caravan...
Posted by friend Oct 21, 2006 03:56 pm
Ranjit & Hamidm sahib,
When BJ is insisting on lack of ``z`` in Hindi, he is not ``biharifying`` hindi speakers. Traditional hindi does not have a sound for ``z``. Extensions have been created for newer sounds e.g. ``au`` and ``z``, but imposing them on all is really as bad as someone trying to impose sanskrit as Hindi.
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