Linguistic Imperialism
Posted by
friend
Oct 23, 2005 10:26 am
Scout! billoo!! yeh kahun ki kabh se bhari baithi ho! ama`n choro yaar, bhool jao salim ko. Woh Anarkali kaa naa raha.
Linguistic Imperialism
You skipped the part where Cops stripped Manto but had to let him gop as their was nothing inside ;-)
Posted by
friend
Oct 22, 2005 05:13 pm
Amansandhu #183You skipped the part where Cops stripped Manto but had to let him gop as their was nothing inside ;-)
Linguistic Imperialism
Did you get bumped on head recently?
Posted by
friend
Oct 22, 2005 09:40 am
Romair #168Did you get bumped on head recently?
NWFP Demonstrators Fury against No Response from Army
``One more suggestion, I think you should change your nick to tahmad64.
Whole world is moving on to 64 bit and you are stuck on 32? ``
Dear Shishpa
One explanation...
64 years is Shri Ahmed Sahib`s actual age. 32 years is what he wants everyone to believe. Why will he change his nick?
Another explanation
Have you heard about ``Tees maar khan``! Our Ahmek mian is ``buttees maar Khan``, not because he killed buttees flies. Because he got maar buttees time.
Posted by
friend
Oct 19, 2005 05:15 pm
#235 by shishapa``One more suggestion, I think you should change your nick to tahmad64.
Whole world is moving on to 64 bit and you are stuck on 32? ``
Dear Shishpa
One explanation...
64 years is Shri Ahmed Sahib`s actual age. 32 years is what he wants everyone to believe. Why will he change his nick?
Another explanation
Have you heard about ``Tees maar khan``! Our Ahmek mian is ``buttees maar Khan``, not because he killed buttees flies. Because he got maar buttees time.
NWFP Demonstrators Fury against No Response from Army
Ditto everything you said..
Chowk has served at least one good purpose. It has kept all cyber warriors engaged and captivated for last 5 years. Has chowk not been here, only god knows what mess these mantos, hamids and romairs would have created in real world.
Posted by
friend
Oct 16, 2005 06:06 pm
#186 ZahraJDitto everything you said..
Chowk has served at least one good purpose. It has kept all cyber warriors engaged and captivated for last 5 years. Has chowk not been here, only god knows what mess these mantos, hamids and romairs would have created in real world.
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
Good work man..
Behram mian
I gave you a list of prominent jews and Parsis. You have still not given any proof of jews or parsis commenting against Gandhi. Should we assume that you are a pathetic liar?
Posted by
friend
Oct 14, 2005 06:24 pm
BeejGood work man..
Behram mian
I gave you a list of prominent jews and Parsis. You have still not given any proof of jews or parsis commenting against Gandhi. Should we assume that you are a pathetic liar?
NWFP Demonstrators Fury against No Response from Army
None of these Paki standard bearers came out at that time. What is so special now?
Posted by
friend
Oct 14, 2005 06:15 pm
I am surprised by Pakistani reaction to Ranjit`s comments. Only few months back there was a Tsunami disaster in India and on same chowk same Pakistanis were gloating. Ali_1 was among the front runners at that time. Funny thing is that this time he is the one getting most outraged...None of these Paki standard bearers came out at that time. What is so special now?
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
``Gandhi who recommended his nonsensical ``non-violence`` strategy against Hitler`s aggression is why most Jews hate Gandhi``
Man! can you answer one straight question? Who are these ``most jews``? Can you quote some?
Posted by
friend
Oct 10, 2005 08:55 am
Behram akalband``Gandhi who recommended his nonsensical ``non-violence`` strategy against Hitler`s aggression is why most Jews hate Gandhi``
Man! can you answer one straight question? Who are these ``most jews``? Can you quote some?
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
you wrote about `almost universal hate` of Jews and Parsis towards Gandhi
Here is list of famous Jews
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-famousjewslist.html
and here is a list of Parsis
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/fam_zor.html
Can you quote few instances of such hate from members of this list?
Posted by
friend
Oct 10, 2005 06:57 am
Behram akalband you wrote about `almost universal hate` of Jews and Parsis towards Gandhi
Here is list of famous Jews
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-famousjewslist.html
and here is a list of Parsis
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/fam_zor.html
Can you quote few instances of such hate from members of this list?
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
Who will you look at if choice is between Count Dracula and that `barrel chested rock`?
Posted by
friend
Oct 10, 2005 06:47 am
Godot #1075Who will you look at if choice is between Count Dracula and that `barrel chested rock`?
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
``Just as an example, he suggested that India would not be partitioned, yet he lived to see its parttion. Now according to my definition this put Gandhi out of integrity.``
Behram akalband
Are you a complete idiot? Did Gandhi partition India? Gandhi tried his best to avoid partition. What were you expecting? That he should kill himself? And what was guarantee that your Jinnah would have stopped demanding his sultanate even after that.
Can I cite an example? Jinnah stated that Kashmir will fell into his lap as a ripe fruit. That didn`t happen. So that puts Jinnah out of integrity.
Behram baba, do you really know what integrity is? When you are trying to attribute those ``jews hated Gandhi`` and ``parsis hated gandhi`` statements, can you quote even one example? I will be able to quote 5 times examples to the contrary and then will check if you have any integrity left.
Posted by
friend
Oct 9, 2005 08:01 pm
#932 by behram1 ``Just as an example, he suggested that India would not be partitioned, yet he lived to see its parttion. Now according to my definition this put Gandhi out of integrity.``
Behram akalband
Are you a complete idiot? Did Gandhi partition India? Gandhi tried his best to avoid partition. What were you expecting? That he should kill himself? And what was guarantee that your Jinnah would have stopped demanding his sultanate even after that.
Can I cite an example? Jinnah stated that Kashmir will fell into his lap as a ripe fruit. That didn`t happen. So that puts Jinnah out of integrity.
Behram baba, do you really know what integrity is? When you are trying to attribute those ``jews hated Gandhi`` and ``parsis hated gandhi`` statements, can you quote even one example? I will be able to quote 5 times examples to the contrary and then will check if you have any integrity left.
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
``Much more than being an idiot who wears dhoti, much more than being a failed lawyer, and much more than an ugly face, Gandhi was out of integrity, in relation to the women in his life. He did not practice what he preached. ``
My dear Behram akalband,
May I respectfully know what do you wear, and what your face looks like, and what you do for earning your bread? So you judge people by what they wear and what they look like. What is your definition of a proper dress? You have shown yourself to be a complete idiot. I wonder if you also wear a dhoti and are extrapolating that.
Gandhi emerged as a leader to `billions` of people. Even 58 years after his death, he is remembered by billions. To you he was a failed person. May I respectfully know what you, your dad, or your grand-dad could achieve in their life? I also suspect you assume your self to be very `handsome`, or is that `pretty`? Can we have a look at your `beautiful face`?
Your `friend`
Posted by
friend
Oct 9, 2005 03:48 pm
behram1 #861 ``Much more than being an idiot who wears dhoti, much more than being a failed lawyer, and much more than an ugly face, Gandhi was out of integrity, in relation to the women in his life. He did not practice what he preached. ``
My dear Behram akalband,
May I respectfully know what do you wear, and what your face looks like, and what you do for earning your bread? So you judge people by what they wear and what they look like. What is your definition of a proper dress? You have shown yourself to be a complete idiot. I wonder if you also wear a dhoti and are extrapolating that.
Gandhi emerged as a leader to `billions` of people. Even 58 years after his death, he is remembered by billions. To you he was a failed person. May I respectfully know what you, your dad, or your grand-dad could achieve in their life? I also suspect you assume your self to be very `handsome`, or is that `pretty`? Can we have a look at your `beautiful face`?
Your `friend`
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
Yaar take some rest now..
You won`t be able to convince Hamidms, Aisha and Yaseers. These guys can not believe that a person can really renounce worldly possessions and contribute to mankind without any selfish reasons. They have been brought up with an image of that person as a hero who married his boss to acquire his property, married his son`s wife, and kept marrying to acquire more and more worldy possessions.
Posted by
friend
Oct 9, 2005 03:05 pm
BeejYaar take some rest now..
You won`t be able to convince Hamidms, Aisha and Yaseers. These guys can not believe that a person can really renounce worldly possessions and contribute to mankind without any selfish reasons. They have been brought up with an image of that person as a hero who married his boss to acquire his property, married his son`s wife, and kept marrying to acquire more and more worldy possessions.
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
And Yaseer`s unemployment issue will also get resolved. He hasn`t been able to find a job since he was sacked from his teaching job.
Posted by
friend
Oct 9, 2005 09:38 am
I wonder if Yaseer and his bivi can get some corporate donor that gives a penny for each of their articles on dead leaders. Pakistan`s external debt issues will be resolved in a month.And Yaseer`s unemployment issue will also get resolved. He hasn`t been able to find a job since he was sacked from his teaching job.
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
Good work. and congratulations for 800th post. This achievement will be recorded in your noble price citation.
I am sure that this scholarly work will get 1000+ posts. I have already contributed .4% towards that effort.
Posted by
friend
Oct 9, 2005 09:36 am
Ana#800Good work. and congratulations for 800th post. This achievement will be recorded in your noble price citation.
I am sure that this scholarly work will get 1000+ posts. I have already contributed .4% towards that effort.
Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale
August 8th 1942
Before you discuss the resolution, let me place before you one or two things, I want you to understand two things very clearly and to consider them from the same point of view from which I am placing them before you. I ask you to consider it from my point of view, because if you approve of it, you will be enjoined to carry out all I say. It will be a great responsibility. There are people who ask me whether I am the same man that I was in 1920, or whether there has been any change in me. You are right in asking that question.
Let me, however, hasten to assure that I am the same Gandhi as I was in 1920. I have not changed in any fundamental respect. I attach the same importance to non-violence that I did then. If at all, my emphasis on it has grown stronger. There is no real contradiction between the present resolution and my previous writings and utterances.
Occasions like the present do not occur in everybody’s and but rarely in anybody’s life. I want you to know and feel that there is nothing but purest Ahimsa1 in all that I am saying and doing today. The draft resolution of the Working Committee is based on Ahimsa, the contemplated struggle similarly has its roots in Ahimsa. If, therefore, there is any among you who has lost faith in Ahimsa or is wearied of it, let him not vote for this resolution.
Let me explain my position clearly. God has vouchsafed to me a priceless gift in the weapon of Ahimsa. I and my Ahimsa are on our trail today. If in the present crisis, when the earth is being scorched by the flames of Himsa2 and crying for deliverance, I failed to make use of the God given talent, God will not forgive me and I shall be judged un-wrongly of the great gift. I must act now. I may not hesitate and merely look on, when Russia and China are threatened.
Ours is not a drive for power, but purely a non-violent fight for India’s independence. In a violent struggle, a successful general has been often known to effect a military coup and to set up a dictatorship. But under the Congress scheme of things, essentially non-violent as it is, there can be no room for dictatorship. A non-violent soldier of freedom will covet nothing for himself, he fights only for the freedom of his country. The Congress is unconcerned as to who will rule, when freedom is attained. The power, when it comes, will belong to the people of India, and it will be for them to decide to whom it placed in the entrusted. May be that the reins will be placed in the hands of the Parsis, for instance-as I would love to see happen-or they may be handed to some others whose names are not heard in the Congress today. It will not be for you then to object saying, “This community is microscopic. That party did not play its due part in the freedom’s struggle; why should it have all the power?” Ever since its inception the Congress has kept itself meticulously free of the communal taint. It has thought always in terms of the whole nation and has acted accordingly. . .
I know how imperfect our Ahimsa is and how far away we are still from the ideal, but in Ahimsa there is no final failure or defeat. I have faith, therefore, that if, in spite of our shortcomings, the big thing does happen, it will be because God wanted to help us by crowning with success our silent, unremitting Sadhana1 for the last twenty-two years.
I believe that in the history of the world, there has not been a more genuinely democratic struggle for freedom than ours. I read Carlyle’s French Resolution while I was in prison, and Pandit Jawaharlal has told me something about the Russian revolution. But it is my conviction that inasmuch as these struggles were fought with the weapon of violence they failed to realize the democratic ideal. In the democracy which I have envisaged, a democracy established by non-violence, there will be equal freedom for all. Everybody will be his own master. It is to join a struggle for such democracy that I invite you today. Once you realize this you will forget the differences between the Hindus and Muslims, and think of yourselves as Indians only, engaged in the common struggle for independence.
Then, there is the question of your attitude towards the British. I have noticed that there is hatred towards the British among the people. The people say they are disgusted with their behaviour. The people make no distinction between British imperialism and the British people. To them, the two are one This hatred would even make them welcome the Japanese. It is most dangerous. It means that they will exchange one slavery for another. We must get rid of this feeling. Our quarrel is not with the British people, we fight their imperialism. The proposal for the withdrawal of British power did not come out of anger. It came to enable India to play its due part at the present critical juncture It is not a happy position for a big country like India to be merely helping with money and material obtained willy-nilly from her while the United Nations are conducting the war. We cannot evoke the true spirit of sacrifice and velour, so long as we are not free. I know the British Government will not be able to withhold freedom from us, when we have made enough self-sacrifice. We must, therefore, purge ourselves of hatred. Speaking for myself, I can say that I have never felt any hatred. As a matter of fact, I feel myself to be a greater friend of the British now than ever before. One reason is that they are today in distress. My very friendship, therefore, demands that I should try to save them from their mistakes. As I view the situation, they are on the brink of an abyss. It, therefore, becomes my duty to warn them of their danger even though it may, for the time being, anger them to the point of cutting off the friendly hand that is stretched out to help them. People may laugh, nevertheless that is my claim. At a time when I may have to launch the biggest struggle of my life, I may not harbour hatred against anybody.
Posted by
friend
Oct 9, 2005 09:05 am
The Quit India speech by Mahatma GandhiAugust 8th 1942
Before you discuss the resolution, let me place before you one or two things, I want you to understand two things very clearly and to consider them from the same point of view from which I am placing them before you. I ask you to consider it from my point of view, because if you approve of it, you will be enjoined to carry out all I say. It will be a great responsibility. There are people who ask me whether I am the same man that I was in 1920, or whether there has been any change in me. You are right in asking that question.
Let me, however, hasten to assure that I am the same Gandhi as I was in 1920. I have not changed in any fundamental respect. I attach the same importance to non-violence that I did then. If at all, my emphasis on it has grown stronger. There is no real contradiction between the present resolution and my previous writings and utterances.
Occasions like the present do not occur in everybody’s and but rarely in anybody’s life. I want you to know and feel that there is nothing but purest Ahimsa1 in all that I am saying and doing today. The draft resolution of the Working Committee is based on Ahimsa, the contemplated struggle similarly has its roots in Ahimsa. If, therefore, there is any among you who has lost faith in Ahimsa or is wearied of it, let him not vote for this resolution.
Let me explain my position clearly. God has vouchsafed to me a priceless gift in the weapon of Ahimsa. I and my Ahimsa are on our trail today. If in the present crisis, when the earth is being scorched by the flames of Himsa2 and crying for deliverance, I failed to make use of the God given talent, God will not forgive me and I shall be judged un-wrongly of the great gift. I must act now. I may not hesitate and merely look on, when Russia and China are threatened.
Ours is not a drive for power, but purely a non-violent fight for India’s independence. In a violent struggle, a successful general has been often known to effect a military coup and to set up a dictatorship. But under the Congress scheme of things, essentially non-violent as it is, there can be no room for dictatorship. A non-violent soldier of freedom will covet nothing for himself, he fights only for the freedom of his country. The Congress is unconcerned as to who will rule, when freedom is attained. The power, when it comes, will belong to the people of India, and it will be for them to decide to whom it placed in the entrusted. May be that the reins will be placed in the hands of the Parsis, for instance-as I would love to see happen-or they may be handed to some others whose names are not heard in the Congress today. It will not be for you then to object saying, “This community is microscopic. That party did not play its due part in the freedom’s struggle; why should it have all the power?” Ever since its inception the Congress has kept itself meticulously free of the communal taint. It has thought always in terms of the whole nation and has acted accordingly. . .
I know how imperfect our Ahimsa is and how far away we are still from the ideal, but in Ahimsa there is no final failure or defeat. I have faith, therefore, that if, in spite of our shortcomings, the big thing does happen, it will be because God wanted to help us by crowning with success our silent, unremitting Sadhana1 for the last twenty-two years.
I believe that in the history of the world, there has not been a more genuinely democratic struggle for freedom than ours. I read Carlyle’s French Resolution while I was in prison, and Pandit Jawaharlal has told me something about the Russian revolution. But it is my conviction that inasmuch as these struggles were fought with the weapon of violence they failed to realize the democratic ideal. In the democracy which I have envisaged, a democracy established by non-violence, there will be equal freedom for all. Everybody will be his own master. It is to join a struggle for such democracy that I invite you today. Once you realize this you will forget the differences between the Hindus and Muslims, and think of yourselves as Indians only, engaged in the common struggle for independence.
Then, there is the question of your attitude towards the British. I have noticed that there is hatred towards the British among the people. The people say they are disgusted with their behaviour. The people make no distinction between British imperialism and the British people. To them, the two are one This hatred would even make them welcome the Japanese. It is most dangerous. It means that they will exchange one slavery for another. We must get rid of this feeling. Our quarrel is not with the British people, we fight their imperialism. The proposal for the withdrawal of British power did not come out of anger. It came to enable India to play its due part at the present critical juncture It is not a happy position for a big country like India to be merely helping with money and material obtained willy-nilly from her while the United Nations are conducting the war. We cannot evoke the true spirit of sacrifice and velour, so long as we are not free. I know the British Government will not be able to withhold freedom from us, when we have made enough self-sacrifice. We must, therefore, purge ourselves of hatred. Speaking for myself, I can say that I have never felt any hatred. As a matter of fact, I feel myself to be a greater friend of the British now than ever before. One reason is that they are today in distress. My very friendship, therefore, demands that I should try to save them from their mistakes. As I view the situation, they are on the brink of an abyss. It, therefore, becomes my duty to warn them of their danger even though it may, for the time being, anger them to the point of cutting off the friendly hand that is stretched out to help them. People may laugh, nevertheless that is my claim. At a time when I may have to launch the biggest struggle of my life, I may not harbour hatred against anybody.
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