The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond hamidm---306

[he always had a gajra of fresh motia wrapped around his wrist as he stood out on the thara swaying to sound of the gungroo, harmonium and tabla ... he was an honorable man]

Yes Broker hamidm there were times when such men could be used as examples to distinguish between honour/dishonour(words becoming increasingly alien to our inglisyphlisised types).

But Pakistan has spawned & imported so many of such kind that it is no longer an embarassment.Au Contrair,it is a shame to be of other kind.

Just as zunkhays are ruling the roost(ha ha co/cks) in the `modern,`rational`,& `personally hygienic`(this was a hoot--seems dog licking your face clean is your concept of it) western world & steely upright softness-seeking being apolegetic,similar `advancement` is taking place what was meant to be Darul-Salaam(Jeru-Salem)----Jeru is Daru in arabi/farsi.Remember Jericho?--oldest city in Falasteen.

PS:Lot of the issues are settled if one reneges & openly declares his disbelief.This dusk to dawn religious (or Eid to Eid religious curfew) is what leads to spiritual schizophrenia (& the off-spring inherit)....I know,I know you do not want the incinerator before the show begins.Secretly you do want to be counted Among the Believers(thank you Naipal) but do let those in tuxedos at the F/parlour know.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond tahmad--279

Glad to.

Zunkhay-----effiminate men(wrongholes).(khusray are emasculinate women--like equality-seeking ones);)---O this is really really fun.

tuchchay-----pretentious.phonies.empty mind/phorren talk.

nausaryay-----con artists.shiasters.

Thanks for asking.

PS:Please lighten up.Life of a referee is really dull.

And as DRUMZ loves to point out,personally I might be exactly the one I am countering.If you know the meaning of Hamzad then you`ll know what I mean.

Chowk(for me)is not a place to learn.It is to tell your opponents off or to frolic or banter with buddies.Only adolescents(itellectually) or professor/doctorate types come here for scholarship & education.I consider myself above & below them respectively(thank you Allah Mian!);)-;)--:-).

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond kafir k khan----268

[We often accuse Pakistan of being run by Mullahs, INDIA HAS ITS BRAHMANS.]

Such self-flagellation does`nt behoove any Indian of whatever colour,stripe or spot.

The curse upon both the nations is that it is in the stranglehold of people who speak/write whatever language in an alien accent.They do not speak english in Urdu/hindvi accent but try to speak urdu/hindvi in english accent.The ventriloquists & contortionists are running the Indo-Pak circus and like ring-masters whips in hand are trying to make lions & elephants sit on tiny western schools.

The lions roar & protest but manage to align themselves for a fleeting moment.The elephant,in an arthiritic protest does so but then the broom & pan me are on the ready to pick up the residue of such effort.

It is refreshing to see a stray Indian behaving like most Pakistanis on chowk----in-fighting,to be ready for the ones across ;)

Misers,savers,stingy kind have never ruled the world & they`ll never will....by default,such kind are cowards and seek protection in asset accounts.Then the mountain-men come & rob them of their savings.

The world would always be divided between shepherds & farmers---& the shephards would always rule under various guises.THINK.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond hamidm--246

Please add chursee,bhungee,zaanee,sharabee,juaaree,zunkhay,tuchhay,luchhay,luffungay,nausaryay,and heejray.

Please identify yourself & your friends there.These words command respect in english.

Now the key to all this is that they sound as insults but in the masters` lingo these assume an aura of culture & class....although the act is exactly the same.If the western thugs have oked it then it must be worn as a badge of honour.Bring kanjar out of and put parents back in closet.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond Still believing CNN(Certainly Not News) and other `modern` & `advanced` Colonisers of Indo-Pak minds?

__________________________________________________

KHOST (Islam News/ Radio Reports/ News Agencies): According to a Pentagon statement, a US `Chinook` CH-47 helicopter crashed early Tuesday morning in the Afghan region of Khost. According to a US press release, out of 24 US commandos on the helicopter, 16 were severely injured and were admitted to a hospital in Bagram. A US Army representative, while speaking to journalists in Kandahar, said that that some of the injured have broken bones while others have burn injuries. He said that no-one was killed in the incident, which he claimed was due to pilot error and the pilot missing a mound of earth near the helipad due to heavy fog.

The information received by Daily Islam via eyewitnesses on the ground said that 25 bodies with faces covered were recovered from the scene. Ghulam Rasool, an eyewitness in Mir Ali who came from Khost said this `crash` occured at about 3am and when he went to the crash site after four hours, the helicopter was still on fire. Shah Muhammad, another eyewitness resident near the site of the crash said that at about 3am, three US Army helicopters appeared from an unknown place. When these helicopters reached near Khost Airport, one of them dropped out of the sky whilst on fire. Several explosions were heard before the helicopter hit the ground. The site of the wreckage itself was proof that no human being in that helicopter would have survived.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond Sattar---251

Just call yourself a muslim and ask others to call you a muslim & muslim only.No need to call yourself an Ahmadi,not at least here.You could still make your point.

I never call myself anything but a muslim & muslim only & request others to do the same.Now that could be the begining to end the travesty.You agree?

As for what is happening in Pakistan,all I can say is that it is shameful---but it was a liberal/secularist/sharabi/ who did it & not ZiaulHaque or any religious leader.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond The MOVEMENT to know the TRUTH grows!

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911 Inquiry Movement Growing

Civil Society`s Greatest Setback

By Terry Burrows

tburrows@idirect.ca

Toronto, Canada

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The greatest setback civil society suffered in 2001 was having to let the US government get clean away with the official cover story about what really happened on 911. Given the dreadful trauma and pain of the circumstances this was agonisingly unavoidable. But the consequence was the impossibility of stopping all the horrors that flowed out of it - the surprisingly well-prepared military aggression abroad and the suspiciously rapidly-legislated attacks on democratic rights at home.



The 911 event completely suppressed the surging anti-corporate globalisation movement which after Genoa (July 2001) was gaining real strength, and civil society activists have still to recover their momentum. But since the new year there are encouraging early signs of a growing comeback.



Beginning most importantly in America itself, increasing demands for answers to obvious questions about suspicious security and defense failures that allowed the 911 attacks to be carried out are now reaching political visibility. This is happening in spite of the corporate media`s propaganda hammer-lock on promoting the official cover story and continuing to manipulate people within it.



911 Inquiry Movement Growing on Internet



One of the major internet media outlets allowing a forum for the development and dissemination of questioning discussion about what really happened on 911 has been http://www.rense.com, the web site of alternative radio talk show host Jeff Rense whose daily three hour program is heard by millions around the world. This site.....

READ rest of it at www.rense.com

A Mathematical Genius rsridhar---60

Now after giving me the befitting reply do you not think that you have forfeited any exclusive claim on hurt feelimgs?

Even so,Please accept my heartfelt apology for my acidic satire.I promise not to be this crass to you again.The way you complained just touched me.

Sorry again.Friends?

PS:No you do not have to read or not read whatever I suggested.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond YLH---212

I hope #215 clarified it for you.It was in a context.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond harimou---205

As a proud & avowed hindoo you should at least uderstand this better.Anyway.

[I suppose you will be writing the next textbook on identifying Qadianis, Hindus, Sikhs, Shias, Ahmaditas, Parsis, Christians, Buddhists and Jews. What acute powers of observation!]

Wrong guess!Those who are proud,open,practising need not be identified.It is the secoolar & liburaals who are closet-aboves who must be exposed with whatever skills one has.Jays` pronoucements mean zilch.He can restrict himself to identify a keralite commie anywhere anytime.To each his own.

[Don`t tell me you are from OUR side of the LOC! How can you stay out of the Land of the Pure? How can you stay in Dar ul Harb? How do you expect Allah to pardon you on the Day of Judgement?

PS. If a woman is wearing a burqa, could you still identify her as a Qadiani?]

Which is your side? Can you have any other side?Whereever a muslim is that particular spot at any given time is Land of the Pure.The Quaid e Azam said ``Pakistan came into being when the very first hindoo became a muslim in hindoostaan``(exact words his.YLH for reference)

The search & identification of any woman is done by a woman.I believe this is true in your hindu culture as well.

A Mathematical Genius rsridhar---57

[I think lives of geniuses reinforce our belief in God. It is possibly God`s way of constantly reminding us of His presence]

Thank you for reminding us of this.This also points out to the fact that how many geniuses & potential greats perish for no Hardy is `sent` to them.

``Verily,Allah knows best``

PS:Please read Quran as just `any` book,without any reference or guide.The message will `descend` on you as well.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond The noose seems to be tightening around the US thugs & tyrants.

Do not miss this insider.

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A White Knight Talking Backwards

SPY CASE IN CANADIAN COURTS SUGGESTS US NAVAL OFFICER HAD FOREKNOWLEDGE OF 9-11

by

Michael C. Ruppert

[Copyright 2002, Michael C. Ruppert and From The Wilderness Publications, http://www.copvcia.com/, all rights reserved. May be reposted, reprinted or distributed for non-profit purposes only when this statement appears with the text.]

TORONTO, [Filed January 25, 2002, and Revised January 28, 2002] – EDITORIAL NOTE: In our original story we indicated that the note written by Delmart “Mike” Vreeland had been sealed in court records. We based this on a misreading of Canadian press stories. In fact, the warning of the World Trade Center attacks, written by Vreeland on either August 11th or 12th has been introduced into open evidence in Vreeland’s case in Toronto. Using court records in our possession, FTW has scanned the document and it is available for viewing in this story. We apologize for the error. Following is a revised story which we feel is the best way to present this important information in context.]



Delmart Edward “Mike” Vreeland, an American citizen whose claims to being a US Naval Lieutenant assigned to the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) are being increasingly corroborated in open court, has been in a Canadian jail since December 6, 2000. On August 11 or 12 of 2001, the date is uncertain, after trying to verbally alert his Canadian jailers to the coming World Trade Center attacks, he wrote down key information and sealed it in an envelope which he then had placed in jailers’ custody. This event is not disputed by Canadian authorities. The letter specifically listed a number of targets including The Sears Towers, The World Trade Center, The White House, The Pentagon, The World Bank, The Canadian parliament building in Ottawa and the Royal Bank in Toronto.

A chilling sentence follows the list of targets, “Let one happen. Stop the rest!!!”

When the envelope was opened on September 14th it set off alarms in the US and Canada.

The US wants Vreeland back in the States on a Michigan warrant for credit card fraud – using his own credit card. Vreeland, convinced that a return to the US means certain death, wants to stay in Canada in a witness protection program. His lawyers Rocco Galati and Paul Slansky, two former Canadian prosecutors, agree with Vreeland’s assessment. They should. Both have been the victims of harassment and threats including dead cats hung on porches and car windows smashed out in car burglaries.

The position of the United States government, as represented by Crown Solicitors in Toronto, is that all of this is nonsense. Vreeland, says the Navy, was discharged as a Seaman after a few months of service for unsatisfactory performance in 1986. He has never had anything to do with intelligence according to 1200 pages of Navy records filed in Toronto Superior Court.

“How is it,” says Galati, “that the Navy says that he was only in the service a few months and then send us a 1200 page personnel file? Some of the entries are obvious forgeries or alterations and the sanitizing of his records was done so hurriedly that some dates of medical exams in the 1990s were left intact.”

In a January 10, 2002 tactic worthy of Perry Mason, with the greatest possible risk to his client if it failed, attorney Slansky got the judge to agree to let him call the Pentagon from open court. Using a speaker phone, in front of at least six witnesses, Slansky first dialed directory information and got a number for the Pentagon switchboard. Then, calling that number he asked the Department of Defense operator to locate the office of Lt. Delmart Vreeland. Within moments the operator had confirmed Vreeland’s posting, his rank as a Lieutenant O-3, his room number and given Slansky his direct-dial number.

All of this is a part of the court record.

On January 17, as this writer sat in the courtroom, another mind-numbing event occurred.

As Vreeland sat shackled in a corner, closely flanked by two guards, the Crown Solicitor sought to debunk Vreeland’s assertions that he had been assigned to travel to Moscow to review and retrieve highly technical and classified documents pertaining to Russian and Chinese efforts to counter the proposed US “Star Wars” missile defense system. [Ed note: FTW believes this to be a cover story.] “Why,” said the Crown Solicitor, “would the US choose, in a case involving some of the most highly technical intelligence, a random seaman with training in the tool and die field.” The point that someone discharged in 1986 with no special training and rank would be sent to review technical documents sounded reasonable – assuming that Vreeland’s background was as the Solicitor argued.

The reasonableness vanished a few moments later as the Crown Solicitor argued that Vreeland, who has been in jail and without access to a computer for thirteen months, had somehow cracked the Pentagon’s personnel records and inserted his name, an office number, and telephone extension into the Pentagon database.

No one except for Vreeland and attorney Galati seemed to notice the contradiction.

The Crown Solicitor ventured further through the looking glass by then arguing that Vreeland, having certain papers in his possession at the time of his arrest, had memorized Russian and Albanian documents and then had translated them from memory. Vreeland doesn’t speak Russian or Albanian. The judge, noticing this stretch of credibility, asked the Solicitor to restate the point. The argument then became that Vreeland had an unnamed colleague go to an unspecified web site, print Russian and Albanian documents for him, and then used foreign language dictionaries to translate them.

Vreeland’s extradition process could take years and his time in jail has not been easy. There have been threats, illnesses and his every move is watched. Galati and Slansky wonder how long his psyche will hold up. The history of jailhouse deaths of key witnesses leans heavily in favor of Vreeland’s belief that he could be killed at any moment. His apparent strategy is to not reveal any accurate Top Secret material to either his lawyers or the press, hoping that his silence will provide him with some support from US clandestine services. This a standard approach taken in dozens of similar cases researched by FTW in the past They include the cases – well known in research circles – of William Tyree and Michael Riconosciuto. Tyree has been jailed on a questionable murder conviction since 1979 and Riconosciuto on a variety or drug-related charges since the early 1990s. Both men have been directly connected to CIA and other intelligence operations by official documents.

“We don’t need to know and we don’t want to know the secret details, “says Galati. “They’re not necessary for us to do the job of keeping our client alive and in Canada. He faces a special danger in the US because he has also been an informant against an organized crime family in Michigan where the criminal charges originate. The most he is facing there is two years but we believe he might not live for two days in that system.”

Additional press reports indicate that Vreeland’s intelligence work was connected to drug smuggling – a much more likely reason for his trip to Moscow. And the history of the relations between Naval Intelligence and the mafia is documented as far back as the Second World War when ONI officers made deals with convicted mafia don Lucky Luciano and his lieutenant Vito Genovese to protect New York docks and assist with the subsequent Allied invasion and occupation of Italy.

Mike Vreeland is one man who, in a rational world, could totally expose the complicity of the US government in the attacks of September 11th. No one has disputed what he wrote and stuffed into that envelope. In a rational world that would be the most pressing and public inquiry of all. The two questions remaining are whether Vreeland will live and whether or not he will ever tell what he knows. That may be a mutually exclusive proposition.

FTW has retained the services of freelance journalist Greta Knutsen in Toronto to report on developments in this critical case for our subscribers. Important updates will be posted and sent out via subscriber bulletin to our readers as they become available.

[The Warning Written by Mike Vreeland Before 9-11]

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The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond Urstruly---173

Aur aadhaa quadiani.

It is not so difficult to spot them---even when they try to extra-carefully avoid mentioning Islam or muslim in any of their posts.

The aryan measles breaks out in a rash,face turns red which some mistake for good health & others attribute to lajja.

There is a female too.From your side of LoC.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond rsridhar----152

[Gandhi was that rare breed among politicians. He strayed into politics because he saw British rule as a great evil that impoverished the masses of India.]

......

Strayed--?

Wasn`t he bamboozled out of a train compartment onto a railway platform by a British baboon?Of course from then on he really thought British rule as evil---verrrry evil.....Ouch!

[His war was also against untouchability, exploitation of women so on and so forth. You seem to have formed the idea that all politians have to be shrewd. Perhaps you have not heard of some principled ones. You may start the list with M.K.Gandhi.]

The victories scored by the Hindians are so numerous that one can hardly keep score.Touchability or untouchability---that is the question and nobody has any answer,and the feminazis are very touchy about it.It seems the only untouchable today is the robust old-fashioned male who wants his meat rare & a woman cookswell;)

[My advice to you. Do not talk about things and people you do not know or understand. Your pseudo-intellecutal credentials stand discredited when you do so.]

Now this last paragraph is hilarious especially the last line.Please read it as many times as you want but you yourself will never tire of getting a fresh kick out of it.It is mind bogglingly humorous.

Even Paki Zero(O)-levels cannot write such great composition---no matter how much tuition their corrupt but professional parents fork out.

A 24 Minute Journey Between Paddington and Slough Ali:

Why do you pile insult upon insult?You just cannot do that to that which is already supersaturated & now chelating it.

When was the last time you personally encountered a proud hindu.Sad but very true that whenever an opportunity arises they pull over this yard-long ghoongat of being a `Veggie`---no,no,nothing to do with the monologues.Just as you cannot gilt the lily similarly you just cannot goo-fy the gobar.

Who else but they try to re charge the flaccid pride by invoking ``Gurv sey kaho---``.It is these damn secularists & liberals straddling the no-mans land & twilight zone of belief/disbelief, twiddling their thumbs ``converts me/converts-me-not`` who are kind of embarrassed to salaam/do dandot to mommy.

The Future Is Another Country: 2050 And Beyond While the usual bickering & brickbatting goes on the CHOWK,interesting events are taking place elsewhere.

``Aye chashm e giryaa naak too rotee hai kis liyay?

Miszgaan to khole!shehr ko sailaab lay gayaa``

meer

tr:O lamenting eye why such weeping & crying--

Open the eyelids!the city`s been washed away(by flood)

READ--& Watch!

__________________________________________________Canadian Television Openly

Questions 911 `Problems`

From Eyes On America

editor@eyesonamerica.org

1-27-2

On Monday, 28 January 28, 2002, ``Insight MediaFile,`` available on Vision TV in Canada, will try to answer the following question: ``What Happened on 9/11 and why aren`t the mainstream media asking that question?``



On the last edition of ``Insight MediaFile`` (first broadcast on 21 January) the show`s host -- media critic Barrie Zwicker -- dared to suggest in his weekly commentary that the CIA, Pentagon and White House may be complicit in the horrendous events of Sept. 11th, 2001.



That commentary was the first in a series on MediaFile that will deal with this important issue. MediaFile is perhaps the first current affairs TV program in Canada to raise this possibility.



Barrie Zwicker says that following that show, ``the program`s senior producer, executive producer and program director decided we`ll devote the whole of next Monday`s program [28 January] to `What Happened on 9/11 and why aren`t the mainstream media asking that question?` It will lead off with our most extended viewer feedback segment ever, followed by the media panel on that topic, followed by Part 2 of my series. All commercial-free.``



A RealAudio clip of his 21 January 2002 commentary can be viewed at: http://clients.loudey e.com/imc/mayday/mediafile.ram



A transcript of that commentary follows:





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What really happened on Sept. 11th? 9/11 - Part 1



For four months Iíve been waiting in vain for the North American media to pursue questions about the startling events of September 11th. Hereís what I want to know:



The multiple hijackings are unprecedented. The first occurs at 7:45 in the morning. Itís a full hour before the first plane hits the World Trade Center. But itís an hour and 20 minutes -- and after the second plane hits ñ that the President allegedly becomes informed. Think about that.



Then, he gives no orders. Why? He continues to listen to a student talk about her pet goat. Why?



Itís another 25 minutes until he makes a statement, even as flight 77 is making a bee-line for Washington, DC.



In the almost two hours of the total drama not a single U.S. Air Force interceptor turns a wheel until itís too late. Why? Was it total incompetence on the part of aircrews trained and equipped to scramble in minutes?



Well, unlike the U.S. Air Force, Iíll cut to the chase. Simply to ask these few questions is to find the official narrative frankly implausible. The more questions you pursue, it becomes more plausible that thereís a different explanation: namely, that elements within the top U.S. military, intelligence and political leadership ñ which are closely intertwined ñ are complicit in what happened on September the 11th.



Why U.S. complicity, you ask?



Well, to stampede public opinion into supporting the so-called war on terrorism, to justify a war on Afghanistan for a future oil pipeline, the grab for Middle East oil, big budget increases for the military, and the general drive for global domination by the American Empire.



I know it sounds incredible.



But hereís some historical context from this book, Body of Secrets. Its author is James Bamford. Bamford until recently was Washington Investigative Producer for ABCís World News tonight with Peter Jennings. I learned of this book on ABCís website.



Bamfordís information comes from interviews. With, for instance, the former dean of the U.S. intelligence community. And from government documents. It takes 80 pages to list Bamfordís more than 600 information sources.



Hereís the story. Itís 1962. John F. Kennedy is U.S. president. Robert McNamara is Secretary of Defence. And Admiral Lyman Lemnitzer heads the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff. The CIA has failed in its illegal Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba.



JFK decides, Bamford writes, to back away from military solutions to the Cuban problem.



But Lemnitzer, the CIA and others at the top remain obsessed with Cuba. Writes Bamford: ``As the Kennedy brothers appeared to suddenly ëgo softí on Cuba, Lemnitzer could see his opportunity to invade -- quickly slipping away. --attempts to provoke the Cuban public to revolt seemed dead--``



Continues Bamford: ``Lemnitzer and the other chiefs knew there was only one option left that would ensure their war. They would have to trick the American public and world opinion--``



Lemnitzer comes up with Operation Northwoods.



``We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba--casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.``



``We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.``



An elaborate variation: create ``an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft--`` ``At a designated time the duplicate would be--loaded with--selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone [a remotely controlled unmanned aircraft]``-- ``the destruction of (that) aircraft will be triggered by radio signal.``



The Cubans would be blamed.



Finally, another variation is described by Bamford: ``On February 20th, 1962 (John) Glenn was to lift off from Cape Canaveral--on his historic journey. Lemnitzer ``proposed -- that should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, ëthe objective is to provide irrevocable proof that--the fault lies with (Cuba)--`` ``by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans.``



Thus, Bamford notes, ``as NASA prepared to send the first American into space, the Joint Chiefs of Staff were preparing to use John Glennís possible death as a pretext to launch a war.``



The Operation Northwoods plan shows the Pentagon was capable, according to Bamford, ``of launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting a (war on Cuba).``



Can we be sure, therefore, that complicity by the Pentagon in the events of Sept. 11th is entirely out of the question?



Next week, a more precise look at the events of that fateful day.



And what about bin Laden? Iíll have more on him too. And the arrests of people named as terrorists around the world.



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