Resist, resist, resist: ‘The gift of a crisis’ at least on t.v., i have been watching thugs of jamiat tulba-i-islam protesting - ms. sarwar wants these nutcases and their mentors in power? or perhaps that completely baigharat woman, benazir bhutto - a convicted felon

the only probems i have with musharaf is that he acted too late to deal with these religious fanatics and has given amnesty to crooks like benazir - she has been prostituting democracy for years as a cover to loot the national treasury.

musharaf should resign - not because he has been a failure, (in fact he had done enough good and his goof-ups are limited) - he should resign to shift the focus from himself - so that one can deal with real problems - kiyani should take over - mullahs/taliban should be sent to houriland and benazir and mian sahib should be give the boot.

what is wrong with p.p.p - why cant they get rid of this woman - she is supposedly the only champion of democracy and at the same time her party's "chairperson for life" - is p.p.p that khusi? - they have no other leaders, execpt this vile individual

Mohammad Who? good article.

the ummah needs to calm down and stop making an ass of themselves.

Balochistan Militancy -- An Insider\'s View re: 273

sri kanth korla, dso, mc, (one of the finest baluchi officers) was commanding an indian division in 1965 - when he found out that one of the units facing him was his own 7/10th he ordered the indian artillery not to fire on it - that`s how the story goes.

Balochistan Militancy -- An Insider\'s View re: 266
well alephlull atleast is back on wiki doing research on the baluch regt.

re: 270, 271
malik saab, i was not aware that one could sign silverware - but its nice of you to say that. while some of your concerns in 271 are appreciated - it really is none of your business.

Balochistan Militancy -- An Insider\'s View re: balochistan militancy
it will go away if enough money is paid to animals like akbar bugti.

re: hp
here are some factoids you may find interesting:

class composition from 1895 to ww1:

24th baluchistan regt.
one company each of hazaras, waziris, kakars and northern pathans and two companies
each of ghilzais and punjabi muslims

26th baluchistan regt.
one company each of ghilzais, waziris, kakars and northern pathans and two companies
each of brahuis/balochis and hazaras

27th & 29th baluchis
two companies each of brahuis and punjabi muslims and four companies of pathans

30th baluchis
three companies each of pathans and punjabi muslims and two companies of brahuis

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after ww1:
redisgnated as the 10th baluch regt. with 6 battalions - equal proportion of punjabi mussalmans
and pathans (yusufzais and khattaks) and one company of brahmin dogras in each battalion.

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as the role of indian army increased during the ww2, the following baluch battalions were raised:
at karachi: 6/10th, 7/10th, 8/10th, 14/10th, 15/10th, 16/10th, 17/10th
at nasirabad, rajputana: 9/10th
to cope with the increasing requirements of recruits, new classes and areas were included.
punjabi mussalmans were also drawn from jullundur, hoshiarpur and ferozepur districts and the
proportion of dogras was increased including brahmins from u.p.

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some of the medals awarded to baluchis during ww2:
vc:
sepoy bhandari ram 16th 1945
naik fazal din 7th 1945

dso:
brig. h.r. briggs 2nd 1941
brig. d.r.e. bateman 1st 1943
brig. m.v. wright 7th 1944
lt. col. b.l. sundius smith 4th 1942
lt. col. l.p. sen 16th 1945
lt. col. c.h. traver 4th 1946
maj. l.v.s. sherwood 4th 1942
capt. sri kanth korla 7th 1942

mbe:
lt. col. b. montgomery 4th 1942
lt. col. j.b. craig 6th 1946
maj. a.o.c. pettyfer
maj. b.a.w hooper 4th 1945
maj. h. sibal 1st 1945
maj. e. c. areher
maj. brij lal
capt. sharif khan
capt. gulzar ahmed janjua 1st 1944
capt. m.a.k durrani 2nd 1946
h/capt. firoz khan 2nd 1946
lt. f.s. payton 3rd 1944
mrs. evelyn lord brc 1946
maj. abrar hussain 2nd 1947

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battle honors:
aden 1839
persia 1856-57
reshire, bushire, khushab, delhi 1857
central india, abyssinia 1868
kandhar 1880
afghanistan 1878-80
egypt 1882
tel el kabir, burma 1885-87
british east africa 1896
british east africa 1897-99
china 1900
afghanistan 1919

battle honors during ww1 years:
messines 1914
armentieres 1914
ypres 1914-15
gheluvelt 1914
festubert 1914
givenchy 1914
neuve chapelle, st. julien, 1914-1915
egypt 1915
megiddo, sharon, palestine 1913
aden, kut el amara 1917
baghdad, mesopotamia 1916-18
persia 1915-18
n w frontier, india 1917
kilminjaro, behobeho, east africa 1915-18

battle honors during ww2 years:
gallabat, barentu, massawa, east africa 1941
the cauldron, ruweisat, el alamein, north africa 1940-43
sicily 1943
castel frentano, orsogna, arezzo, 1943-45
monte cedrone, citta di castello 1943-45
gothic line, pian di castello, croce, gemmano, san marino 1943-45
monte farneto, san paolo-monte spacato, monte cavallo 1943-45
cesena, savio, casa bettini, idice 1943-45
athens, greece 1944-45
north malaya, machang, singapore, 1941-42
kuzeik, north arakan, maungdaw, shwebo, kyaukmyaung 1945
mandalay, meiktila, the irrawaddy, pegu 1945
sittang 1945
burma 1942-45

Sharon’s Legacy re: 84

maybe naive - but polls can change and besides, netanyahu (a bonafide nutcase), olmert (a likud hawk pretending to be a centerist minus sharon`s stature) and amir ( a sephardi with little/no stature) are the same when it comes to protecting the interests of the israelis - there is no arab leader who thinks like that.

Sharon’s Legacy re: 76

everyone has to die one day - i see no reason why you should be so happy about this - are you celebrating the prospect of binyamin netanyahu becoming the next israeli p.m. - he has stated clearly on more than one occasion that all palestinians should be relocated to either jordan or saudi arabia - there is no such thing as the west bank, he says - it is judea and sammara according to him - he is also quite capable of demolishing masjid-i-omar and masjid al-aqsa - and what do you think, you and your ummah will do, when that happens - let me enlighten you - nothing - because the ummah is not capable of doing anything - if the ummah was not busy breeding all the time they would have accomplished something by now - the ummah will vent its anger on the streets by burning shops and cars in their own neighborhoods - and maybe blow up a few things here and there - and that would be the end of it.

Sharon’s Legacy re: 72

thanks for the link fuzair - my own understanding had been the same as described by col. de atkine - the then maj. gen. zia-ul-haq took over the command of a jordanian division on his own initiative and played a decisive role in crushing the uprising - that in itself is quite remarkable since it was not even remotely a part of his job description.

many have puzzled over why bhutto picked zia over some very fine and more qualified generals - the usual explantion is that zia used to act like a lapdog in front of him and bhutto had too much of an ego - i am not so sure about this explanation - someone mentioned this to me a long time back, that when maj. gen. zia-ul-haq took that action against the palestinians, he was duly noted by a lot of important people - here was a man with no scruples and ruthless enough to do anything for his ambitions - people like that can be very useful - but all that is ofcourse just speculation.

Sharon’s Legacy ``Sharon has been lauded and eulogized by his fawning fans—including a doting George W. Bush—as an indomitable ‘warrior’ and ‘courageous’ soldier.``

he was an ``indomitable ‘warrior’ and ‘courageous’ soldier.`` you may not like his arrogant swagger or his crude, bullying manner but accept the fact that no arab leader in recent history can even close to him. which is sad, since for israelis he does not count as one of their great leaders. there is not a single arab leader who has served his country and people like sharon has his motherland. these baighairat arabs need people like sharon to give them the danda they need.

sabra and shatilla are mentioned all the time, but face the truth, your own amir-ul-momineen (zia-ul-haq) killed more palestinians during the black september uprising than the israelis have since 1947. the israelis to their credit at least had an inquiry against sharon and held him responsible. zia-ul-haq on the other hand was awarded the highest jordanian honor for butchering thousands of palestinians and the saudi pigs used to open the doors of the ka`ba for him every chance they got.

The Amazing Khatris of Punjab re: tahmed, dost-mittar

i have the gazetteer of the rawalpindi district (1893-94) - its quite an interesting read - here are some factoids from it:

population:
awan 129,812
arora 13,520
gujar 35,854
jat 23,863
mughal 33,103
pathan 39,151
rajput 142,864
sayad 21,427

amongst the rajputs:
janjua 13,363
gakhar 7,714
satti 9,444
chauhan 6,844
bhatti 31,432
some other rajput clans listed are: chhib, dhanial, gondal, jaswal, minhas, rathor, sial, tiwana

these are just some of the numbers - i have`nt listed all the tribes and their subdivisions, etc.

on khatris:
the place of the bania of other districts is, in this district, taken by the khatri. the khatri of the western tehsils, however, is very different in personal character from the bania of the districts further south. he is very independent in manner and conduct, and often fierce and intractable.

col. cracroft thus describes the khatri of jandal in by-gone days, and some part of the charateristics thus described are to be found in their descendents of the present day: `` if, on the one hand, the khattar be fierce and blood thirsty, the khatri of jandal is courageous and perservering, and although living from day to day with a knife at his throat is as defiant as if he were backed by force far out-weighing that of the khattars and khattaks and afridis together.``

on gakhars:
old religious customs, obviously of hindu origin, are still observed by the gakhars, or were until within a very short period, such as customs at marriage ... and the kazi and the brahmin are both present on such occasions.

this district-wise comparison seems to be based on a 20-year average (1874-1894).
wheat (sers/rupee):
rawalpindi 35
jhelum 35
hazara 42
peshawar 30

bajra (sers/rupee):
rawalpindi 45
jhelum 44
hazara 50
peshawar 40

An Empire in the Making the transition from spewing garbage to a comfortable life in a spider-hole can easily be achieved with the help of a few good men. mr. ahmadinejad should watch some recent t.v. news footage.

The Amazing Khatris of Punjab re: 211

not really - janjuas can be muslim, hindu and sikh - even christian - they are white huns and apparently did`nt like what they believed in before migrating to punjab around 300 a.d. i have`nt done any research on the pre-migration religion of white huns.

from rajputsamaj:
http://www.rajputsamaj.net/miscellaneous/pakrajput.htm

as for the name - prof. dani thinks that it probably derives from ``jouan-jouan`` - name of a central asian tribe which forced its way into punjab around 325-75 a.d.

The Amazing Khatris of Punjab re: 203

``These sound very similar to Punjabi hindu/sikh last names.``

the reason they sound ``very similar``, einstien, is because they are the same names.

The Amazing Khatris of Punjab re: tahmed

you should write an article on gujjars. your posts were very interesting.

The Amazing Khatris of Punjab great article - thanks dost-mittar.

The Trial of a Nation re: 158

hp, read rommel`s posts - he knows what he`s takling about.