US Commando Strike in Waziristan
alpha mian,
.... it is going to take more than 50B to 'turn around' the housing market and i don't think it will be a big turn around even then .... hopefully we can stem the slide ... the asset base that you are talking about is probably 50% of what it was on paper a year ago .....
.... a few years ago, when the housing market was at its peak my friend tehsin, who is the biggest slum lord in connecticut and who rears his ugly head on this forum once in a while, told me that he was dumping his real estate because his cleaning lady and her husband just managed to get a 450 thousand dollar mortgage ...... i should have listened to him - sometimes the fool knows what he is talking about ...... many years ago, before the internet bust, i should have dumped all my technology stocks when a seven dollar an hour security guard offered to give me a a 'hot tip' while i was waiting in the lobby of an office building ........ this housing bust was bound to happen - we were all too greedy and foolish to see it coming ........
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 7, 2008 04:01 pm
Re: # 129alpha mian,
.... it is going to take more than 50B to 'turn around' the housing market and i don't think it will be a big turn around even then .... hopefully we can stem the slide ... the asset base that you are talking about is probably 50% of what it was on paper a year ago .....
.... a few years ago, when the housing market was at its peak my friend tehsin, who is the biggest slum lord in connecticut and who rears his ugly head on this forum once in a while, told me that he was dumping his real estate because his cleaning lady and her husband just managed to get a 450 thousand dollar mortgage ...... i should have listened to him - sometimes the fool knows what he is talking about ...... many years ago, before the internet bust, i should have dumped all my technology stocks when a seven dollar an hour security guard offered to give me a a 'hot tip' while i was waiting in the lobby of an office building ........ this housing bust was bound to happen - we were all too greedy and foolish to see it coming ........
US Commando Strike in Waziristan
tahmed,
bewakoof! ....explain the difference between mccain and hussein on this issue:
"Paulson briefed congressional leaders and presidential candidates John McCain yesterday and Barack Obama on Friday night. Obama yesterday said that he approves of the government action, if it does not bail out the companies' shareholders and executives and is good for the economy. Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said a McCain administration would make the companies smaller and more effective. "
.... so what if mccain has seven houses, i know many pakis who have multiple homes and dozens of investment properties ... many mid-level auto executives and subway franchise owners in michigan owns least three homes - one here, one "up north" and one down in florida ..... and the ones up north are not shacks - inspite of the recession, waterfront homes in traverse city and on places like torch lake still run in the millions ........ and the democrats like hussein and the kennedys who pander to the welfare mommas living in the ghetto, do not live in cardboard shacks either ......... so cut out this democrat wihining
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 7, 2008 07:03 am
tahmed,
bewakoof! ....explain the difference between mccain and hussein on this issue:
"Paulson briefed congressional leaders and presidential candidates John McCain yesterday and Barack Obama on Friday night. Obama yesterday said that he approves of the government action, if it does not bail out the companies' shareholders and executives and is good for the economy. Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said a McCain administration would make the companies smaller and more effective. "
.... so what if mccain has seven houses, i know many pakis who have multiple homes and dozens of investment properties ... many mid-level auto executives and subway franchise owners in michigan owns least three homes - one here, one "up north" and one down in florida ..... and the ones up north are not shacks - inspite of the recession, waterfront homes in traverse city and on places like torch lake still run in the millions ........ and the democrats like hussein and the kennedys who pander to the welfare mommas living in the ghetto, do not live in cardboard shacks either ......... so cut out this democrat wihining
US Commando Strike in Waziristan
bubba mian,
.... in principle i agree with you, but being a little closer to retirement than you i cannot afford to wait for the markets to recover on their own and i certainly can't afford citibank going under since they have a lot of my money ..... being a paki, my principles take a back seat to my petty self interests ..... let me get my money out of the market and then i might change my tune ........ however, don't worry, i am still voting for mccain - when it comes to iraq and the economy, i really don't see too much daylight between him and hussein ........
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 7, 2008 06:21 am
bubba mian,
.... in principle i agree with you, but being a little closer to retirement than you i cannot afford to wait for the markets to recover on their own and i certainly can't afford citibank going under since they have a lot of my money ..... being a paki, my principles take a back seat to my petty self interests ..... let me get my money out of the market and then i might change my tune ........ however, don't worry, i am still voting for mccain - when it comes to iraq and the economy, i really don't see too much daylight between him and hussein ........
There is no ‘honour’ in killing
.... you know that i am a simple minded guy and not much for high falutin discussions, so please bear with me and forgive me if my solution sounds simple minded.....
.... the only cure for feudalism is capitalism which, in my simple mind, is that fairest system of all - it took mankind thousands of years to stumble on it ......
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 04:26 pm
hp,.... you know that i am a simple minded guy and not much for high falutin discussions, so please bear with me and forgive me if my solution sounds simple minded.....
.... the only cure for feudalism is capitalism which, in my simple mind, is that fairest system of all - it took mankind thousands of years to stumble on it ......
Why Zardari Should Be President!
masadi mian,
.... as a fellow american and republican i have to come to tahmed's defense ........... oh, what the heck! ... have at it !
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 04:13 pm
Re: # 76masadi mian,
.... as a fellow american and republican i have to come to tahmed's defense ........... oh, what the heck! ... have at it !
Why Zardari Should Be President!
masadi mian,
"Ahmad sahib has been hiding under the rock the mullah threw away after taking care of his business"
.... i like that !
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 02:28 pm
Re: # 74masadi mian,
"Ahmad sahib has been hiding under the rock the mullah threw away after taking care of his business"
.... i like that !
Why Zardari Should Be President!
tahmed,
.... so if you don't have a dog in this fight then why are you getting all riled up ? .....just dil lagi and lufangerbazi? ..... are you saying that your interest in pakistani politics is at the same level as my interest in the the politics of papua new guinea and masadi's mating habits ? ....
.... and i did not mean 'fall in line' as it is commonly understood - i meant 'stand in line' and wait your turn as king zardari doles out favors ...... your beloved justices are doing exactly that as is everyone else ..... if you don't need anything from them you can afford to be a tamashbeen (aka voyeur); i can't because i still have business with the second most powerful man in pakistan - the patwari of adiala .....
zardari zindabad !
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 01:28 pm
Re: # 70tahmed,
.... so if you don't have a dog in this fight then why are you getting all riled up ? .....just dil lagi and lufangerbazi? ..... are you saying that your interest in pakistani politics is at the same level as my interest in the the politics of papua new guinea and masadi's mating habits ? ....
.... and i did not mean 'fall in line' as it is commonly understood - i meant 'stand in line' and wait your turn as king zardari doles out favors ...... your beloved justices are doing exactly that as is everyone else ..... if you don't need anything from them you can afford to be a tamashbeen (aka voyeur); i can't because i still have business with the second most powerful man in pakistan - the patwari of adiala .....
zardari zindabad !
US Commando Strike in Waziristan
bubba,
.... this is from a few minutes ago .....
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/treasury-set-bail-out-fannie/story.asp x?guid=%7B46D1439E-A2C4-418C-9BE0-09BE0B9EE60D%7D&dist=msr_4
...in simple terms, if fannie and freddie go under many banks could go under - so if you have any money in the bank you could get hurt ..... also many pension funds and 401K plans have fannie and freddie bonds (that were concsidered as good as cash) - the the way things are going you and i could be flipping burgers in our retirement instead of sitting on the beach sipping pik and blue drinks with little umbrellas and watching the girls in bikinis .... and what if you want to borrow money to start a business or your kid wants to get a student loan ?
.... it is a shame that this thing has been allowed to get to this stage, but now the government has no choice but to nationlize both and then sell them off in small chunks ..... i have no desire to flip hambugers
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 01:00 pm
Re: # 80bubba,
.... this is from a few minutes ago .....
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/treasury-set-bail-out-fannie/story.asp x?guid=%7B46D1439E-A2C4-418C-9BE0-09BE0B9EE60D%7D&dist=msr_4
...in simple terms, if fannie and freddie go under many banks could go under - so if you have any money in the bank you could get hurt ..... also many pension funds and 401K plans have fannie and freddie bonds (that were concsidered as good as cash) - the the way things are going you and i could be flipping burgers in our retirement instead of sitting on the beach sipping pik and blue drinks with little umbrellas and watching the girls in bikinis .... and what if you want to borrow money to start a business or your kid wants to get a student loan ?
.... it is a shame that this thing has been allowed to get to this stage, but now the government has no choice but to nationlize both and then sell them off in small chunks ..... i have no desire to flip hambugers
Why Zardari Should Be President!
tahmed,
... which rock have you been living under? ... dr shahid masood was the director of geo news who led the jihad against musharraf long before your droopy-eyed cj showed up on the scene ..... he was the darling of the islamists including nawaz sharif and other mullahs with beards of varying lengths ..... his tirades against musharraf would put bill o'reilly to shame ....... how quickly we forget (or choose to forget) !
..... anyway, you seem to be cut from the same cloth as maulana bhashani and nawabzada nasrullah who were always in the opposition regardless of who came to power - i hope you don't look like them ........ but you are not the only one - this morning my brother in law started telling me stories about how corruption has gone through the roof since the ppp came to power and how his boss has had to flee to dubai because zardari was trying to muscle in on his business .... according to him zardari is now demanding 15% because he has to give 5% to mqm ! .... i told him to shut because i had heard the same stuff in the ninetees when zardari started his career as a kleptomaniac ......... we shpuld all get in line like shahid masood, the cj of peshawar, the supreme court justices who took bai't yesterday, aitizaz ahsan who is looking for a ticket and everyine else who is lined up at zardari'c court ..........
zardari zindabad !
down with the unwashed masses - let them eat cake!
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 12:47 pm
Re: # 59tahmed,
... which rock have you been living under? ... dr shahid masood was the director of geo news who led the jihad against musharraf long before your droopy-eyed cj showed up on the scene ..... he was the darling of the islamists including nawaz sharif and other mullahs with beards of varying lengths ..... his tirades against musharraf would put bill o'reilly to shame ....... how quickly we forget (or choose to forget) !
..... anyway, you seem to be cut from the same cloth as maulana bhashani and nawabzada nasrullah who were always in the opposition regardless of who came to power - i hope you don't look like them ........ but you are not the only one - this morning my brother in law started telling me stories about how corruption has gone through the roof since the ppp came to power and how his boss has had to flee to dubai because zardari was trying to muscle in on his business .... according to him zardari is now demanding 15% because he has to give 5% to mqm ! .... i told him to shut because i had heard the same stuff in the ninetees when zardari started his career as a kleptomaniac ......... we shpuld all get in line like shahid masood, the cj of peshawar, the supreme court justices who took bai't yesterday, aitizaz ahsan who is looking for a ticket and everyine else who is lined up at zardari'c court ..........
zardari zindabad !
down with the unwashed masses - let them eat cake!
Why Zardari Should Be President!
tahmed mian,
... can you tell me what happened to dr. shahid masood - the champion of islam, the defender of the faith, the man who berated zardari and benazir and called them thieves and scoundrels ? .......... i will give you a hint: the chairman of ptv makes around 22 lakh rupees a month .....
king zardari zindabad !
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 09:25 am
Re: # 52tahmed mian,
... can you tell me what happened to dr. shahid masood - the champion of islam, the defender of the faith, the man who berated zardari and benazir and called them thieves and scoundrels ? .......... i will give you a hint: the chairman of ptv makes around 22 lakh rupees a month .....
king zardari zindabad !
US Commando Strike in Waziristan
bubba,
.... i agree that freddie and fannie should be dismantled, but it has to be done in an orderly fashion ..... the chinese might have 200B of this bad debt but ordinary american have more than a trillion ........in any case this is what happens when the government gets into the banking business through the back door .... we don't want any of that commie stuff from europe and canada .......
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 07:00 am
Re: # 74bubba,
.... i agree that freddie and fannie should be dismantled, but it has to be done in an orderly fashion ..... the chinese might have 200B of this bad debt but ordinary american have more than a trillion ........in any case this is what happens when the government gets into the banking business through the back door .... we don't want any of that commie stuff from europe and canada .......
Why Zardari Should Be President!
tahmed,
.... you still haven't answered my question - is droopy going to be re-installed or re-appointed? .... and are the unwashed masses better off under king zardari ? .... is nawaz sharif coming back from london? ...... where is aitizaz ahsan? ...... when will allah ditta find atta to feed his ten miserable runts ? ..... when will islamabad have more electricity than baghdad ?
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 05:52 am
Re: # 48tahmed,
.... you still haven't answered my question - is droopy going to be re-installed or re-appointed? .... and are the unwashed masses better off under king zardari ? .... is nawaz sharif coming back from london? ...... where is aitizaz ahsan? ...... when will allah ditta find atta to feed his ten miserable runts ? ..... when will islamabad have more electricity than baghdad ?
US Commando Strike in Waziristan
captain cluless,
.... i hate to disappoint you, but the entire republican party (including me) and many democrats know that we have won the war ....it does not even appear on the front page or the evening news any more - it is history ...... even joe biden, who had long advocated splitting up iraq, has shut up ...... even if, god forbid, obama wins it will be because of the economy - the mainculprit being the sub-prime disaster .... bush is an idiot for not nationalizing fannie and freddie and then breaking them up - it was the stupidest idea the government ever came up with ........
....regardless of who gets elected, us troops will remain in iraq for the forseeable future and the world will be better off for it ...... now we need to do something about iran ....
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 6, 2008 05:47 am
captain cluless,
.... i hate to disappoint you, but the entire republican party (including me) and many democrats know that we have won the war ....it does not even appear on the front page or the evening news any more - it is history ...... even joe biden, who had long advocated splitting up iraq, has shut up ...... even if, god forbid, obama wins it will be because of the economy - the mainculprit being the sub-prime disaster .... bush is an idiot for not nationalizing fannie and freddie and then breaking them up - it was the stupidest idea the government ever came up with ........
....regardless of who gets elected, us troops will remain in iraq for the forseeable future and the world will be better off for it ...... now we need to do something about iran ....
Why Zardari Should Be President!
tahmed,
.... are these judges being reinstated or reappointed ???? ......... be careful, there is a big difference that might not be apparent to a senior citizen like you .......
..... i just heard the new law minister asking your droopy-eyed judge to take an bait (oath) on zardari's hand and join the judiciary before he can be 'considered' for appointment as the cj ......... snicker! snicker!
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 5, 2008 04:23 pm
tahmed,
.... are these judges being reinstated or reappointed ???? ......... be careful, there is a big difference that might not be apparent to a senior citizen like you .......
..... i just heard the new law minister asking your droopy-eyed judge to take an bait (oath) on zardari's hand and join the judiciary before he can be 'considered' for appointment as the cj ......... snicker! snicker!
Why Zardari Should Be President!
faruk mian,
.... we don't have 'ordinary people' in pakistan - we have pakis ......... there is a big difference
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 5, 2008 04:19 pm
Re: # 45faruk mian,
.... we don't have 'ordinary people' in pakistan - we have pakis ......... there is a big difference
US Commando Strike in Waziristan
allah mian,
... that is why i have been advocating a war against india - that way we can move all these wild-eyed jihadis to kashmir and get them busy killing horrible hindoos instead of their fellow moslems ...... this way we can kill two birds with one stone and get rid of the bamboo so that we don't have to listen to the dang flute .......
.... i think i will write a letter to king zardari and his sipah-silar kiyani to see if they can move these poor bas*a*ds form bajaur to srinagar ....
Posted by
hamidm2
Sep 5, 2008 04:18 pm
Re: # 48allah mian,
... that is why i have been advocating a war against india - that way we can move all these wild-eyed jihadis to kashmir and get them busy killing horrible hindoos instead of their fellow moslems ...... this way we can kill two birds with one stone and get rid of the bamboo so that we don't have to listen to the dang flute .......
.... i think i will write a letter to king zardari and his sipah-silar kiyani to see if they can move these poor bas*a*ds form bajaur to srinagar ....
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