All Boys I think we encourage Tahir huzoor more by giving any importance to what he says.

But ain't that the truth with a lot of folks here? *sigh*

Access Denied "Happiness was a burger with more cheese and more fries than what others got."

I can totally relate to this definition of happiness!

Grandmothers have some interesting "truths", superstitions sometimes don't they?

Nicely written. :)

All Boys I don't know if the author is going to interact here since this was published at another site, but thank you Chowk staff for bringing this here.

Vaibhav, vis-a-vis perceptions, how to appreciate differences, it is going to take a lot of time, but I wish you all the best! I thought the Delhi high court decision was a step in the right direction.

The White Rose Kulharee:

Well said!

The White Rose sattar:

man, I seriously don't think sidhu/nkg is concerned with that, as much as pointing out that "muslas are bad, and it don't matter what you say 'cause muslas are bad." *rolling eyes ikaan*

The White Rose nkg:

Re-read the story, and stop turning this into a debate about religion alone.

The White Rose Sidhu/nkg:

Let me ask you a question here. If the Patriarch of Constantinople, or better yet, the Pope has marked that all Christians except for Roman Catholics are non-Christians, do you think that makes them so?

Actually there are many denominations within Christianity that are considered "heretical" by the Roman Catholic church, as well as the Orthodox Church (and vice-versa). I can tell you that Baptists, Methodists, and the Mormons think of themselves as Christians no matter what the Catholic churches tell them. And over time (and after considerable spilling of blood centuries ago) no matter how different these denominations are in theology, they have learned to work on various things together, even if certain churches do not offer one another communion. Various religions are divided from the "one true church" in their faith, and they are not concerned what that body tells them they should be, is the point I'm trying to make here.

I think you need to stop harping on what the Saudis say, because no matter what YOU say, the Ahmadis are here to stay. This story is not about someone who is so concerned with the acceptance of the Saudis. It is about a man who had a lot more to deal with, and what he did with his life no matter what odds he had to face.

Some of us do understand that you are here more to disrupt, than to actually offer anything more thought-provoking, so maybe you should re-read this story.

GHQ Attack-Serious Questions Re: # 68

Aleph, how long did it take you to write that biting satire??? Agree with Che Gue here! Hope you have it stored besides this place for future self-amusement. :)

Hope all other serious questions are being "resolved".

The White Rose anil:

I know I'm not Aisha, but that has never stopped anyone from making a comment.

"Another thing that I do not understand is why should Ahamdiya Muslims care about recognition by government among sea of hostile opinions? Afterall, African American were denied similar rights by people ranging from KKK to George Wallace."

The comparison of Ahmadiya Muslims now to a situation that has to quite an extent been rectified by America is not entirely apt. The KKK is not a governmental organization (it may have supporters within states but that is another matter), and also George Wallace, if I remember correctly, got over his "segregation forever" phase. And at no point in time have African-Americans ever been told that they could not have their own churches, and yet some were burned down by racist thugs.

As a few Ahmadis have reiterated already they do not care who recognizes them. The problem arises when the state of Pakistan asks someone to make a declaration that they are not Ahmadi, at least there was a point in time when that was on the application for a Pakistani passport (I recall not knowing how to deal with that since I am not a Muslim anyway). And as Manto has said, there is still an ordinance from the Zia days against the use of Islamic symbols - even with what the truth on the ground is. Now I am not an Ahmadi, but I would think there is a reason to care about legal (for lack of a better word) restrictions against Ahmadis among a sea of already existing hostile opinions exercised by those who has Kulharee described have blocked entrance to Ahmadiya places of worship.

Contrary to what some try to tell us, religious freedom, and the idea of it has existed in Pakistan, it is in the books. My generation learned about it growing up. So discrimination matters, and should matter and any injustices that arise against Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus, and all religious minorities should be decried. I would add that it should also be decried when a Muslim wages violence on another Muslim, which is happening far too often these days.

The White Rose sattar:

oye hoye, kis ko lalkaya aap ne? Ab iss board ka baiRa ghaRak ho jayega! *sigh*

Story of Hindustani It wouldn't have made any difference had you said, "We are all Adam's children" or "We all came from Gogol's overcoat". :)

This wonderful Doc… Excuse me Parthaab? You're the one who keeps bringing up your "WAKE UP MALES, SPEAK UP!" into every fora, especially this one where it's hardly appropriate. Then again, no one is ever appropriate here.

And I am not an androphobe. Nor do I don't go from article to article raging about hatred towards men, or why women might still be at a disadvantage in many parts of the world because of male privilege.

You need help. Not to be ridiculed because of your constant rantings. They really have become a joke at Chowk.

Beena, I apologize for the detour here. I will ignore this troubled man from now on.

This wonderful Doc… and Parthaab has to bring his gynophobia everywhere. . . .

This wonderful Doc… haneef: I'm not sure how you do not see how the beginning, "She is not the grave visiting sort" connects to "Zakia now takes time out from her work to sit by his last resting place. It gives her peace." at the end of Beena's piece. What is in between is a recollection of her father Sarwar's life, who has passed away, and Zakia being his partner in that life.

She is (perhaps "was" would make more sense to you?) not the grave visiting sort except when it came to losing her life-partner. What Beena wrote is about the loss of a life-partner and a parent.

The White Rose banjara: yeah, I guess you're right, and what Ahmedis go through in Pakistan is just fiction?!

The White Rose was that a serious question? I think it's fiction, as well as current affairs. :)